Titans fire GM Jon Robinson

[ddaryl]

7 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

I understand the firing, but doing this midseason for a team that will almost certainly make the playoffs seems a bit strange. There has to be more to this story than we know.

Need a new GM for next years draft. By doing it now they might be able to fill the position and be ready.

Not much for a GM to do at this time a year. Now is the good time if you want the new GM to be ready for 2023 draft IMO

Edited December 6, 2022 by ddaryl

[machine gun kelly]

1 hour ago, BuffaloRebound said:

AJ Brown trade killed them.  

1 less TD on avg per game vs. last year.  Yeah that was a good move letting AJ go.

[djp14150]

1 hour ago, buffalo2218 said:

I think even the owners know they're not going that far in the playoffs. The contract they gave Tannehill came back to bite em when AJ Brown wanted to get paid. There's even talk of Vrabel leaving the NFL for college next year

AJ Brown is why he got fired.  The owner sees what he does to them and is pissed.

[FilthyBeast]

Interesting timing for a team that is command of their division despite a couple of bad losses and their own midseason slump. This may be one of those 'more to the story' situations, but it also goes to show there are consequences to not seizing an open championship window and just being a playoff team/division winner every year simply isn't enough anymore for owners serious about winning.

 

 

 

 

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

The are going to win that division, right? Weird timing

 

It is indeed weird.

 

The Titans have been solid.  The AJ Brown trade was a Bad Trade, but the fact that the Titans have had a winning record every year since Robinson took over, have been in the playoffs 4x and seem headed for a 5th, says to me he's been doing a very good job.

 

The Titans only 2 bad losses this season have been to the Eagles (current NFC #1 seed) and the Bills (current AFC #1 seed).  They lost to the Giants because the G-men found a lucky horseshoe and stuck it up their butts, they lost to the Chiefs by 3 points in Overtime and to the Bengals by 4 points.

 

Who thinks it's a good idea to throw out your GM in the middle of the season after all that?

 

 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

Chris Brown is flipping out about this on OBL. 

[What a Tuel]

1 minute ago, FilthyBeast said:

Interesting timing for a team that is command of their division despite a couple of bad losses and their own midseason slump. This may be one of those 'more to the story' situations, but it also goes to show there are consequences to not seizing an open championship window and just being a playoff team/division winner every year simply isn't enough anymore for owners serious about winning.

 

Or you know if it were that, they'd have waited til after the playoffs. 

 

This was certainly more about trading AJ Brown who went 8/10 119 yards and 2 tds as opposed to Burks who is a rookie sure but went 1/1 25 yards and 1 td (1st td all year).

 

They effectively got worse.

[colin]

it would seem to me that there simply must be more to this story.

 

he must done something just totally out of pocket to get the boot in the middle of a playoff run

[VaMilBill]

1 hour ago, buffalo2218 said:

Yeah I'd have to say cap mismanagement was his downfall. The Titans may be going in to rebuild mode in the offseason if Vrabel gets the axe

Vrabel shouldn’t get the axe. He’s a good coach in my opinion. An a$$ too

[Beck Water]

17 minutes ago, ddaryl said:

Need a new GM for next years draft. By doing it now they might be able to fill the position and be ready.

Not much for a GM to do at this time a year. Now is the good time if you want the new GM to be ready for 2023 draft IMO

 

Actually, I think the stretch run for a playoff team is where a good GM can lift a team by being clever with roster and PS management and finding quality backup/replacement help off other team's PS and sofas.

 

The Titans have apparently said they don't plan to bring in a new GM now - they will search after the season, in the meantime their VP of Player Personnel will serve as interim GM.

 

5 minutes ago, colin said:

it would seem to me that there simply must be more to this story.

 

he must done something just totally out of pocket to get the boot in the middle of a playoff run

 

Yeah, this seems to me like a "hidden blunder" situation.

Edited December 6, 2022 by Beck Water

[dpberr]

I guess the owner was enraged/embarrassed by that Titans/Eagles game.  Impulsive rage move.  The team likely wins the division, may finish 12-5.  

 

I thought the Titans were wise not signing a WR with TWO surgically repaired knees to a long term contract.  Eagles are getting a great season out of AJ Brown but they paid $57 million in cash for it if those knees get creaky next year.  Risky.  He'd get fired if they signed him to that contract, and he's hobbled seasons 2-4 of the contract.  

 

 

 

 

[T master]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

The are going to win that division, right? Weird timing

 

WOW nothing like having a quick trigger finger the guy has been doing pretty good since he's been there i hope the Pegs are paying attention & don't see this type of action as a way to do things & look more at this & the Bills past as how not odd things change can be good but this is pretty big unless the coach had some input about the relationship .

[Saint Doug]

1 hour ago, buffalo2218 said:

I'm not sure anything was worse than the Wilson trade, at least the Titans got a first. Denver lost a ton of money as well as a lot of games

This needs perspective. The Wilson trade was a stroke of genius…for Seattle. 

[Livinginthepast]

The timing of this for the Titans is pretty unprofessional. You are winning the division, going to make the playoffs relatively easily and you are firing the GM now? At least wait until you lose in the playoffs.  What message is this sending the team except "this is a club I dont want to play for".

[Captain Hindsight]

Odd. There must be more going on here than losing to the Eagles. Very strange

[foreboding]

AJ brown effect.

 

Good teams in a championship window acquire receiving help...the titans traded their superstar...the same who helped Ryan yannehill look pretty damn good. Knee-jerk firing, now, for sure.

 

I like Rob woods, but aj brown he is not.

Edited December 6, 2022 by foreboding

[GETTOTHE50]

who cares

[mannc]

1 hour ago, BuffaloRebound said:

AJ Brown trade killed them.  

How was that trade worse than Minnesota trading Diggs, KC trading Tyreek Hill, or GB trading Davonte Adams?  Treylon Burks is starting look like a good receiver for them…

[Nitro]

33 minutes ago, dpberr said:

I guess the owner was enraged/embarrassed by that Titans/Eagles game.  Impulsive rage move.  The team likely wins the division, may finish 12-5.  

 

I thought the Titans were wise not signing a WR with TWO surgically repaired knees to a long term contract.  Eagles are getting a great season out of AJ Brown but they paid $57 million in cash for it if those knees get creaky next year.  Risky.  He'd get fired if they signed him to that contract, and he's hobbled seasons 2-4 of the contract.  

 

 

 

 

I concur.  The GM was eyeing the future.  The rookie is not working out might next year.  The guy will not be out of a job for long.  He did a solid job drafting talent to build that team.

[The Jokeman]

I know Lake Dawson, our Assistant Director of College Scouting, worked with the Titans earlier in his career. I wonder if they'd bring him in? It be great for us because the league give us two 3rd round draft picks since he's a minority.  

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

42 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Chris Brown is flipping out about this on OBL. 

"We replaced Brown's usual coffee with:"

[Mr. WEO]

2 hours ago, Big Turk said:

Guess the owner wasn't happy seeing AJ Brown "Moss" them all night last game.

 

 I bet the owner had no problems with the GM when they were 7-3 two weeks ago...

[Malazan]

1 hour ago, dorquemada said:

Once you get into the Hitler/Stalin/Mao territory it's really a subjective judgement to say who's worst

 

Out of the four.. I think it's Russell Wilson. 

[Philo]

1 hour ago, dorquemada said:

 

Once you get into the Hitler/Stalin/Mao territory it's really a subjective judgement to say who's worst

 

No love for Pol Pot?

[Sestak4ever]

Maybe they will bring in Bill O’Brien😆

[CDogg20]

2 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

For Treylon Burks!! Think they'd want to rewind that move? Not like it was a Diggs/Jefferson situation

While he’s no Aj Brown, Burks has been playing very well the last few weeks. Had a 25 yard td before going out last week. I think he’s gonna be very good as long as he stays healthy 

[\GoBillsInDallas/]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Titans fire GM Jon Robinson

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

He just got an extension in Feb and they have to pay him for 4 years 😬

 

apparently vrabel is going to have all the power now (like Bill O Brien)

[fergie's ire]

Am I the only one who thinks that the timing on this means there's something else going on? (and maybe some have mentioned here but I haven't read through the entire thread).  I mean maybe just a disagreement between coach and GM...but even then would think it would wait until the end of the season.  Seems like it would be a Sean Kugler or Jerry Richardson kind of deal for an abrupt firing with a few weeks left in the season...and the team is leading the division.

 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 I bet the owner had no problems with the GM when they were 7-3 two weeks ago...

Lawd, he was lovey-dovey.

*
As for the 'why now' part, someone caught someone diddling business major interns? 🤔

Edited December 6, 2022 by Ridgewaycynic2013

[CapeBreton]

3 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

Short term yes but long term it might be beneficial. 

 

I can totally understand the logic of the AJ Brown trade from the Titans perspective. AJB was pretty damn good for them but he was streaky and not super durable, so they didn't want to give him big money and flipped him for a cost controlled Burks. Right now AJB is balling out and Burks has been hurt but shown flashes, it looks bad but might help the team in the next few years. 

[dorquemada]

1 hour ago, Philo said:

 

No love for Pol Pot?

 

Although he had an impressive body count he was more of a cover band than a creator of original content

[FilthyBeast]

2 hours ago, dpberr said:

I guess the owner was enraged/embarrassed by that Titans/Eagles game.  Impulsive rage move.  The team likely wins the division, may finish 12-5.  

 

I thought the Titans were wise not signing a WR with TWO surgically repaired knees to a long term contract.  Eagles are getting a great season out of AJ Brown but they paid $57 million in cash for it if those knees get creaky next year.  Risky.  He'd get fired if they signed him to that contract, and he's hobbled seasons 2-4 of the contract.  

 

 

 

 

 

I hope a certain owner also has impulsive rage towards his GM and HC should a certain team lose to KC in the playoffs again for the 3rd straight year.

Edited December 6, 2022 by FilthyBeast

[CookieG]

4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Wow. I think that is a shock. The only team in the NFL with a longer unbroken run of winning seasons than the Titans is the Chiefs and they have done it with Marcus Mariota and Ryan Tannehill at QB. 

 

I think Robinson has built that roster well for the most part. Now the AJ Brown trade was a mistake. I am a bit of an AJ Brown lover in fairness. I have banged the drum for AJ > DK since they came out of Ole Miss together. But that trade looked a bad one the minute it was made and while I am more optimistic than some about the long-term prognosis for Treylon Burks (and he had really come on the past couple of weeks before leaving the Philly game hurt) expecting him to be an AJ replacement off the bat was an error. 

 

Does feel like ultimately Vrabel, who was against the trade, lost faith in the GM and has won the power struggle. But there are a lot of bad teams out there who could do worse than hire Jon Robinson as GM. 

And it could just be a personality/power thing between him and Vrabel..or someone else.  It happens sometimes.  Kansas City is a good example.  John Dorsey was fired in 2017, only a few months after creating the trade for Mahomes with the Bills.  They had been to the playoffs 3 straight years at the time.  The reason given was his lack of communication skills, which seemed kinda bogus at the time.  But Andy Reid never answered to Dorsey, he answered only to Clark Hunt.  It wouldn't surprise me if that was the situation in Tenn. 

 

Big egos in powerful positions.  Often, one of them has to go.

 

 

[JDubya76]

He looks like a mouth breather just like Vrabel 

[Heitz]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

He just got an extension in Feb and they have to pay him for 4 years 😬

 

apparently vrabel is going to have all the power now (like Bill O Brien)

 

Why can't this ever happen to me? 🤔  I'd even be willing to give Vrabel power over all of my clients...

 

[Paup 1995MVP]

6 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

Comparing apples to oranges here.  Lewis never won a playoff game. And I'd argue that he had a better QB at times with Palmer.  Vrabel is 2-3 in the playoffs.   Say what you want but I think his coaching is part of the reason they are competitive every year.   Id take what the Titans have over the alternative they are about to find out about.

If you are not close to winning championships, and you start getting blown out like the Titans did on Sunday, even if overall your team is decent, change is coming.  The Titans did not look good last week either against a Cinci team playing at home w/o Mixon and Chase.  If the Bills had lost to the Bengals at home and then went to Philly and got smoked, this board would be all up in arms wanting all sorts of change.  That is the nature of sports and competition.  If you are not great.  You need to keep trying to attain greatness.  

[DrBob806]

4 hours ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said:

 

 

WARNING WARNING

[97bills]

Get it done beanie 

[TBBills Fan]

With everything considered, I'm in the there has to be more to this story camp