Josh Allen injury update(officially questionable - expected to start per Ian Rappaport)

[UKBillFan]

2 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Ya at this point, just get in the playoffs.

 

1 seed or not, if the bills have a healthy Josh Allen and a healthy roster, no one is going to want to face the bills as the bills proved they can beat anyone. (Wins against at Baltimore, KC)

Agreed. Forget about the number one seed - if we get it, fantastic. If we don’t, the important thing is to get to the post season. And hopefully we’re going through the injuries now so we have a clean slate in January.

[PonyBoy]

1 hour ago, Tom Donahoe, GM said:

There's a dude in this thread that said we should cut Gabe Davis if we sign OBJ

What's your point?...😂😂

[NewEra]

48 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

 

 

I see the plan to sell blue check marks to get rid of fake accounts is going well.

This is hilarious.  He may have ruined Twitter forever. Already.  

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Just now, NewEra said:

This is hilarious.  He may have ruined Twitter forever. Already.  

you say that like it's a bad thing

 

[ShakAttack]

Hold on... Serious question here... Why does it seem like in a 24 hour period the general consensus has gone from "He would probably be good enough to play against the Vikings but it would be wise to let him sit a week" to "Uh oh! We might be losing him for 4 weeks!"    Is it just because he missed another practice?  Is it something that was said somewhere?   Is it because Josh looked "sick and depressed" in today's clip of him running off the practice field?  As far as I can tell, nothing has come out today that would make me feel any different from yesterday, so.. what am I missing? 😂

[RobbRiddick]

36 minutes ago, Shake_My_Head said:

He shaved that damn mustache off.    Should be good to go Sunday 😎

That's not Josh. Clearly an imposter. I still remember what the Beatles did with Paul

[What a Tuel]

27 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

I think you're VASTLY overrating the talent on the roster.

 

Vastly. Davis has been a huge disappointment. Knox has done little to nothing. The RBs are...average. The OL...average.

 

And the defense? Gutted. So, yeah, I think expecting 2-2 in a 4 game stretch is pretty lofty.

 

EDIT:

 

12-5 may not win the division, let alone secure the #1 seed. Find three more losses for KC

 

 

The roster is extremely talented, its not even debatable. The naysayers on this forum love to rag on the roster of the 6-2 Bills but hype up the rosters of the 3-5 Browns and 2-6 Lions. 

 

I love the finding losses thing because the same argument was made about the Patriots last year. New England goes on a 7 game win streak and half of the fans on here were ready to cede the division because there's no way the 9-4 pats would drop two of four remaining games and lose the division to the 7-5 Bills. I mean they have the Jaguars (L), Bills who they beat already throwing the ball just 3 times!! (L) and the Dolphins (L)!!!

 

Now I get the Chiefs are different from the pats but they lost to a Matt Ryan led Colts, and struggled pretty hard against the Titans. They could drop a couple of the next 9 games. No idea who, but its possible. Rams could show up, Bengals could show up, Seahawks could show up, Chargers could show up. Hell even the Jaguars could show up.

 

 

5 minutes ago, BobBelcher said:

Hold on... Serious question here... Why does it seem like in a 24 hour period the general consensus has gone from "He would probably be good enough to play against the Vikings but it would be wise to let him sit a week" to "Uh oh! We might be losing him for 4 weeks!"    Is it just because he missed another practice?  Is it something that was said somewhere?   Is it because Josh looked "sick and depressed" in today's clip of him running off the practice field?  As far as I can tell, nothing has come out today that would make me feel any different from yesterday, so.. what am I missing? 😂

 

People are just speculating. 4 weeks might as well be 4 hours or 4 years for all anyone knows.

Edited November 10, 2022 by What a Tuel

[CEN-CAL17]

That sleeve….. is that or is there a Tens Unit underneath?

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

You can just kind of hear it in their voices on WGR. This guy isn’t playing Sunday 

[BuffaloBaumer]

8 minutes ago, BobBelcher said:

Hold on... Serious question here... Why does it seem like in a 24 hour period the general consensus has gone from "He would probably be good enough to play against the Vikings but it would be wise to let him sit a week" to "Uh oh! We might be losing him for 4 weeks!"    Is it just because he missed another practice?  Is it something that was said somewhere?   Is it because Josh looked "sick and depressed" in today's clip of him running off the practice field?  As far as I can tell, nothing has come out today that would make me feel any different from yesterday, so.. what am I missing? 😂

 

I may be in the minority here but I never thought that playing the Vikings was ever in play. Most on the medical side of things are saying it is usually up to 24 days of rest to get things to where he is out of the woods. With 2 home games coming, and then a pretty pathetic Lions team, I would think REALISTIC expectations should be the 3 game stretch vs the division.

[ALLinALLEN]

10 minutes ago, BobBelcher said:

Hold on... Serious question here... Why does it seem like in a 24 hour period the general consensus has gone from "He would probably be good enough to play against the Vikings but it would be wise to let him sit a week" to "Uh oh! We might be losing him for 4 weeks!"    Is it just because he missed another practice?  Is it something that was said somewhere?   Is it because Josh looked "sick and depressed" in today's clip of him running off the practice field?  As far as I can tell, nothing has come out today that would make me feel any different from yesterday, so.. what am I missing? 😂

Because there's a big part of the fanbase that is insufferable if the bills dont go 17-0, win every game by 30, and have Allen as MVP. Go look at superbowl winning team's and you'll find each team had their own hurdles every year. 

[Greg S]

59 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

 

Me either.

 

Just not our year. Too much to overcome.

 

 

 

We are 6-2 and currently the #1 seed. We probably won't keep that, but the year isn't over. Still playoff bound. We just need #17 healthy.

[RiotAct]

9 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

You can just kind of hear it in their voices on WGR. This guy isn’t playing Sunday 

ooh, what do Nate Geary and Stinky Joe DiBiassi think about this situation?  I’m dying to know!

[DapperCam]

43 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

I think you're VASTLY overrating the talent on the roster.

 

Vastly. Davis has been a huge disappointment. Knox has done little to nothing. The RBs are...average. The OL...average.

 

And the defense? Gutted. So, yeah, I think expecting 2-2 in a 4 game stretch is pretty lofty.

 

EDIT:

 

12-5 may not win the division, let alone secure the #1 seed. Find three more losses for KC

 

Chiefs just almost lost to the Titans with Malik Willis at home LAST WEEK. It took overtime, and the Titans only had one first down the second half.

 

Chiefs are in a funk just like the Bills are.

[stevewin]

Has anyone checked whether Josephine Allen is eligible to play?

[Solomon Grundy]

1 hour ago, Shake_My_Head said:

He shaved that damn mustache off.    Should be good to go Sunday 😎

Good!! Didn't like him going after Garoppolo's title😎

[Ya Digg?]

25 minutes ago, BobBelcher said:

Hold on... Serious question here... Why does it seem like in a 24 hour period the general consensus has gone from "He would probably be good enough to play against the Vikings but it would be wise to let him sit a week" to "Uh oh! We might be losing him for 4 weeks!"    Is it just because he missed another practice?  Is it something that was said somewhere?   Is it because Josh looked "sick and depressed" in today's clip of him running off the practice field?  As far as I can tell, nothing has come out today that would make me feel any different from yesterday, so.. what am I missing? 😂

Just wait until he doesn't practice tomorrow!  Out for the rest of this year and most of next - possibly even retirement!

[Alphadawg7]

49 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

I think you're VASTLY overrating the talent on the roster.

 

Vastly. Davis has been a huge disappointment. Knox has done little to nothing. The RBs are...average. The OL...average.

 

And the defense? Gutted. So, yeah, I think expecting 2-2 in a 4 game stretch is pretty lofty.

 

EDIT:

 

12-5 may not win the division, let alone secure the #1 seed. Find three more losses for KC

 

 

Sweet see you next year then.  Nothing more for you to see here.  Season is over.  Peace.

Edited November 10, 2022 by Alphadawg7

[Low Positive]

28 minutes ago, BobBelcher said:

Hold on... Serious question here... Why does it seem like in a 24 hour period the general consensus has gone from "He would probably be good enough to play against the Vikings but it would be wise to let him sit a week" to "Uh oh! We might be losing him for 4 weeks!"    Is it just because he missed another practice?  Is it something that was said somewhere?   Is it because Josh looked "sick and depressed" in today's clip of him running off the practice field?  As far as I can tell, nothing has come out today that would make me feel any different from yesterday, so.. what am I missing? 😂

Because we, just like the NFL press, have no information so we are speculating to fill the gaps.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Sweet see you next year then.  Nothing more for you to see here.  Season is over.  Peace.

You think I'ma let you off that easy?

 

We're gonna see, man

 

[Greg S]

5 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

Just wait until he doesn't practice tomorrow!  Out for the rest of this year and most of next - possibly even retirement!

 

Then we trade for Sam Darnold to be our starter.

[ShakAttack]

Here's something kind of interesting (to me anyway).

 

If Keenum starts on Sunday, every team in the AFC East would have started a backup QB at some point this season, which is only halfway complete.

 

...and every team in the division has a winning record. Go figure. 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

26 minutes ago, RiotAct said:

ooh, what do Nate Geary and Stinky Joe DiBiassi think about this situation?  I’m dying to know!

Nah not those guys. They are as bad as it gets. I heard Nate actually ask out loud a few weeks ago if Dick Labeau was a defensive guy or OC and I was just out. I get it, some of these younger kids are from a different era but Jesus. That’s inexcusable. It was Sal

Edited November 10, 2022 by Brianmoorman4jesus

[transplantbillsfan]

1 hour ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said:

I’ll have to Listen to the clip again but to me it sounded like Rapport throwing it out there that he might not be able to grip the football as a result of the injury as opposed to him knowing in fact that he can’t.. .

 

 

 

 

 

Everything is just speculation right now, but that whole nerve thing is explained in that Youtube video I've now posted twice in this thread.  It's actually kinda best-case-scenario in a lot of ways and this might even mean there's no sprain at all.  The nerve issue they may be talking about is the equivalent of you hitting your funny bone and having that tingly feeling.  With Allen it was just bad enough that it took longer than the normal couple minutes to fix itself, but they apparently usually resolve themselves pretty quickly.

 

So... if that's actually a "report" that it was the nerve issue thing involving Allen's grip of the football, I think that's honestly truly best-case scenario (other than him not getting injured, obviously) and who knows if that report is based on Allen's status today or right after the injury itself.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

12 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Everything is just speculation right now, but that whole nerve thing is explained in that Youtube video I've now posted twice in this thread.  It's actually kinda best-case-scenario in a lot of ways and this might even mean there's no sprain at all.  The nerve issue they may be talking about is the equivalent of you hitting your funny bone and having that tingly feeling.  With Allen it was just bad enough that it took longer than the normal couple minutes to fix itself, but they apparently usually resolve themselves pretty quickly.

 

So... if that's actually a "report" that it was the nerve issue thing involving Allen's grip of the football, I think that's honestly truly best-case scenario (other than him not getting injured, obviously) and who knows if that report is based on Allen's status today or right after the injury itself.

We just have so little to go on with this, and haven't heard from Allen since Sunday. 

 

We know it's not nothing, he isn't practicing. 

 

So the best case scenario based on all reports is a minor Grade 1 sprain that keeps him out a 1-2 Weeks. 

 

The initial Rap report was he was going to play through it, but it doesn't seem likely if his not practicing at least in a limited fashion. 

 

But nothing even close to a real/authenticated update on the actual injury, past the first couple of Twitter people saying it's "partially torn" 

Edited November 10, 2022 by Straight Hucklebuck

[Putin]

2 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Thats not Josh Allens real twitter.  Just someone that paid 8 bucks for a checkmark.

Is there a deal if you buy 2 checkmarks ? 

[Low Positive]

1 minute ago, Putin said:

Is there a deal if you buy 2 checkmarks ? 

Vlad, I’m sure Elon would give you one for free just for the lolz.

[Putin]

1 minute ago, FrenchConnection said:

Vlad, I’m sure Elon would give you one for free just for the lolz.

Only close friends call me Vlad 

[Billever76]

2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

Ian mentions a nerve issue Allen is having that is affecting his ability to grip the ball.

And how could Ian possibly know that?...pure speculation imo

[TheFunPolice]

We need Allen's elbow 100% for the playoffs. It almost doesn't matter where we play or who we play. 

 

Yes, we WANT home playoffs games, and that bye is huge. But a close to 100% Bills team is going to beat anyone anywhere.

 

If I play a 1:1 basketball game vs LeBron James to 20 points (using 2's and 3's, not the silly 1 point per basket rule some use) it aint going to matter where we play, I'm going to lose. 

 

I bet I'd score 4-6 points though! 

Edited November 10, 2022 by TheFunPolice

[Special K]

38 minutes ago, Putin said:

Only close friends call me Vlad 

 

So, no one then??🙂

[Franco_92]

10 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

We need Allen's elbow 100% for the playoffs. It almost doesn't matter where we play or who we play. 

 

Yes, we WANT home playoffs games, and that bye is huge. But a close to 100% Bills team is going to beat anyone anywhere.

 

If I play a 1:1 basketball game vs LeBron James to 20 points (using 2's and 3's, not the silly 1 point per basket rule some use) it aint going to matter where we play, I'm going to lose. 

 

I bet I'd score 4-6 points though! 

It doesn't matter where we play?

 

We are 3-0 at home and 0-4 on the road under Sean 

[SWATeam]

Just now, arcane said:

It doesn't matter where we play?

 

We are 3-0 at home and 0-4 on the road under Sean 

Yeah, I can’t stand all the current mental gymnastics.

 

Anything less than the one seed is a disappointment.  Sure, we could overcome it, but that’s the goal.  Especially considering how our season has ended the last two years.

[Buffalo716]

24 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

We need Allen's elbow 100% for the playoffs. It almost doesn't matter where we play or who we play. 

 

Yes, we WANT home playoffs games, and that bye is huge. But a close to 100% Bills team is going to beat anyone anywhere.

 

If I play a 1:1 basketball game vs LeBron James to 20 points (using 2's and 3's, not the silly 1 point per basket rule some use) it aint going to matter where we play, I'm going to lose. 

 

I bet I'd score 4-6 points though! 

You aren’t scoring 4 points on lebron if he tries lol

[DrPJax]

19 minutes ago, BobBelcher said:

Here's something kind of interesting (to me anyway).

 

If Keenum starts on Sunday, every team in the AFC East would have started a backup QB at some point this season, which is only halfway complete.

 

...and every team in the division has a winning record. Go figure. 

      Seeing Gabe’s interview on YouTube today about Josh “coaching “ from the sideline is another warning sign i think is falling into place  ( beside the fact there has been NO REPORTED definitive diagnosis ever released and Josh reportedly had “more testing “ which to me is dr / team speak for getting a SECOND opinion as this injury is easily visualized by mri / ultrasound , clinical signs are easily tested, and results were most likely back Monday afternoon for an NFL TEAM) that I would say IMO warns Josh  is out this week.

Davis when questioned mentioned Josh being slightly down or frustrated ( paraphrasing) , but still out on the practice field coaching and helping the team and Case be ready. Gabe repeatedly dropped the mantra next man up “ that’s the game of football”, how we trust Case, how Josh “ wants to be healthy” and he’s a competitor helping us with things he knows as we try retaining that info as we get ready.  Not ground breaking but just seemed less guarded about Josh being “ down” , coaching , etc, which coupled with one more dnp is one more objective observation you don’t get from Mcd officially in a presser. 

 

     Tasker / brown mentioned today how the 4 th quarter is the Bills lowest scoring quarter , scoring on 36 points ( 16% of their total ) , while the 4 th quarter fo the vikes is their best scoring 36% of their points ( almost 2x the bills with 70 points) !   That’s a pretty alarming trend , tho some of that may be the Bills having some games in hand by then and taking their foot off the gas pedal. Still, may be a sign teams adjust better in game relative to Dorsey and the O. It also suggests if we are trailing going into the 4 th , we are in trouble perhaps more so than prior seasons.   Vikes have won 6 one score games coming in so it suggests we need to be efficient early, not drop into the same slumps we saw last year in the 3 rd quarter now showing up later , and that a lead is not safe against this Vikings team until the games over. Mcd needs to perhaps throw out the analytics so much , and take points ( fgs) early if we have too as we can’t leave early points out there like prior weeks. 
 

     This team is not the same early Bills team that could score at will. With Josh likely out , receivers dropping balls or not getting open , the O line missing aggressive play of Brown , the D being hurt with Groot , two all pro safeties out ( Johnson being less than avg or even bad) , LBs perhaps not100%, and having rookie cbs out there while another pro bowl player seems delaying  playing , is a recipe for struggle this week.  Just have to hope we get some breaks until we get healthy as we have zero turnover margin, and let’s hope Dorsey is more creative in the 4 th quarter and red zone this week.   Would be tough seeing the Fins leading the division and the Chiefs back on track as a #1 seed.  That first half seems critical Sunday! 
 

 

[Putin]

55 minutes ago, Special K said:

 

So, no one then??🙂

Did you try to make a joke 

[WideNine]

I would leave the Vikes guessing so they have to prep for 2 QBs.

 

They will take this decision down to the wire.

 

 

 

[BruceVilanch]

1 hour ago, TheFunPolice said:

I play a 1:1 basketball game vs LeBron James to 20 points (using 2's and 3's, not the silly 1 point per basket rule some use) it aint going to matter where we play, I'm going to lose. 

 

I bet I'd score 4-6 points though!

Lol, you're not scoring a point against LeBron

[John from Riverside]

Just now, BruceVilanch said:

Lol, you're not scoring a point against LeBron

Its that whole father time commercial that makes us common folk think we can do something against professional athletes lol

[Simon]

12 minutes ago, BruceVilanch said:

Lol, you're not scoring a point against LeBron

 

I'd insist on having the ball first as the underdog then kick that sumbitch right in the jimmy, drop in the layup and run for my truck with a 1-0 win.