Josh Allen injury update(officially questionable - expected to start per Ian Rappaport)

[UKBillFan]

7 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

Seems like no one is discussing Josh's last 3 halves of decision making, and the sudden refusal to NOT take what the GB and NYJ defenses were giving him. Short and intermediate routes were open on many of the incompletions and interceptions in those 3 halves of bad passing offense, and Allen chose instead to be belligerently aggressive. 

 

Is it at all possible that forcing him to step back and see things objectively from the sideline for a game (or 2 or 3, god forbid) will actually help him remember what was propelling his early season ELITE play? Taking what the defenses were giving him early and often, and then as the game wears on, exploiting those moments where the opponents finally got impatient/aggressive? The big plays are earned by PROVING you'll take the small plays over and over. Our guy has definitely backslid into terrible habits, both with decision-making and, on some of those skipped throws to the right flat, mechanics. A step back might allow him to flush out those toxic tendencies.

 

Straw clutching but we can hope it will help. That, and Dorsey will have to try and create a running game as Keenum won't be able to do it all with his arm.

[Blank Stare]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

How about if he plays, I will leave the board the rest of the season and if he doesn’t, you will leave?

[BuffaloBill]

37 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

If he does then, my comments remain the same

Guys I think we found what Bigfoot has been up to

 

 

Is he wearing an arm brace??? 

[What a Tuel]

8 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

Seems like no one is discussing Josh's last 3 halves of decision making, and the sudden refusal to NOT take what the GB and NYJ defenses were giving him. Short and intermediate routes were open on many of the incompletions and interceptions in those 3 halves of bad passing offense, and Allen chose instead to be belligerently aggressive. 

 

Is it at all possible that forcing him to step back and see things objectively from the sideline for a game (or 2 or 3, god forbid) will actually help him remember what was propelling his early season ELITE play? Taking what the defenses were giving him early and often, and then as the game wears on, exploiting those moments where the opponents finally got impatient/aggressive? The big plays are earned by PROVING you'll take the small plays over and over. Our guy has definitely backslid into terrible habits, both with decision-making and, on some of those skipped throws to the right flat, mechanics. A step back might allow him to flush out those toxic tendencies.

 

What do you mean? 2 of the 4 ints were short passes....

[Hebert19]

9 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

Welcome!

 

 

When Josh Allen sprained his L shoulder (AC joint) against the Raiders, he was seen wearing a restrictive "linebacker brace" the next 2 weeks against the Titans and the Chiefs.  He was "off" passing, typically missing high (Hasselbeck explained that's typical for that injury and why), until, during the 4Q against the chiefs, it seemed like he took it off despite some apparent protests from trainers, and all of a sudden could pass.  I think next game or 2 he was taped up.

 

Anyway, I can't imagine an elbow brace that would be restrictive enough to be protective, but that wouldn't mess with some aspect of Josh's delivery given the multiple arm angles he uses.

When I had a similar injury it was just a reinforced compression sleeve basically.  Wasn't about stability was more about circulation to avoid swelling and ensuring I could still grip the ball. That's it. 

[SoCal Deek]

8 minutes ago, Hebert19 said:

When I had a similar injury it was just a reinforced compression sleeve basically.  Wasn't about stability was more about circulation to avoid swelling and ensuring I could still grip the ball. That's it. 

Was it copper lined? 😉

[LABILLBACKER]

9 hours ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

Is there anyone who actually believes he is playing on Sunday? I mean come on, you have to understand there is no freaking way.

He's not playing Sunday nor should he.  As the synopsis said he needs roughly 24 days to properly recover. That's Minnesota,  Cleveland & Detroit.  I would rather sneak into the playoffs with a healthy Josh Allen then risk further injury going for the #1 seed.

Edited November 10, 2022 by LABILLBACKER

[PayDaBill$]

In addition to his arm I’m still worried about his last 6 or so quarters of ball.  He just hasn’t looked right since being tattooed by Douglas at GB.  I know he laughed it off but there was definitely a change to his game that ensued.

Now we’re thinking of taking a visibly dinged QB coming off almost 2 not so great games & trotting him out vs the Vikes. Color me concerned.

 

Edited November 10, 2022 by PayDaBill$

[78thealltimegreat]

10 minutes ago, What a Tuel said:

 

What do you mean? 2 of the 4 ints were short passes....

One he literally tried to throw in the dirt and even he admits he just missed? 

1 minute ago, PayDaBill$ said:

In addition to his arm I’m still worried about his last 6 or so quarters of ball.  He just hasn’t looked right since being hit by Douglas at GB.  I know he laughed it off but there was definitely a change to his game that ensued.

Now we’re thinking of taking a visibly dinged QB coming off almost 2 not so great games & trotting him out vs the Vikes. Color me concerned.

 

If he doesn’t play well they can’t win they don’t have enough skill talent to win if he isnt superman so you better pray he plays better 

[What a Tuel]

1 minute ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

One he literally tried to throw in the dirt and even he admits he just missed? 

 

Yeah, and the jets one he was taking what the jets gave him (Knox) but did not see the defender.

 

The Davis one seemed like a miscommuncation.

 

I think only one of the 4 ints was actually Allen trying to make things out of nothing and messing up.

[What a Tuel]

4 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

He's not playing Sunday nor should he.  As the synopsis said he needs roughly 24 days to properly recover. That's Minnesota,  Cleveland & Detroit.  I would rather sneak into the playoffs with a healthy Josh Allen then risk further injury going for the #1 seed.

 

There seems to be debate about whether injuring it further is possible.

 

They clearly won't play him if there is risk to injure it further, but if the risk of a tear is the same with the injury and without then he can certainly play.

[GolfandBills]

8 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

He's not playing Sunday nor should he.  As the synopsis said he needs roughly 24 days to properly recover. That's Minnesota,  Cleveland & Detroit.  I would rather sneak into the playoffs with a healthy Josh Allen then risk further injury going for the #1 seed.

He’s not going to miss 3 games.  People need to stop with the doom and gloom 

[RiotAct]

19 minutes ago, GolfandBills said:

He’s not going to miss 3 games.  People need to stop with the doom and gloom 

yeah the fact that he’s “day-to-day” makes me think he’ll miss the Vikings game, but be back for Cleveland.

[78thealltimegreat]

26 minutes ago, What a Tuel said:

 

Yeah, and the jets one he was taking what the jets gave him (Knox) but did not see the defender.

 

The Davis one seemed like a miscommuncation.

 

I think only one of the 4 ints was actually Allen trying to make things out of nothing and messing up.

Point taken 

[GolfandBills]

Just now, RiotAct said:

yeah the fact that he’s “day-to-day” makes me think he’ll miss the Vikings game, but be back for Cleveland.

If any game 

[Mr. WEO]

31 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

He's not playing Sunday nor should he.  As the synopsis said he needs roughly 24 days to properly recover. That's Minnesota,  Cleveland & Detroit.  I would rather sneak into the playoffs with a healthy Josh Allen then risk further injury going for the #1 seed.

 

I didn't see in the synopsis where this is considered a "day to day" injury.

[BananaB]

38 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

He's not playing Sunday nor should he.  As the synopsis said he needs roughly 24 days to properly recover. That's Minnesota,  Cleveland & Detroit.  I would rather sneak into the playoffs with a healthy Josh Allen then risk further injury going for the #1 seed.

Bills have not released any details on the injury besides he’s day to day. 24 days seems more like week to week

[fergie's ire]

37 minutes ago, PayDaBill$ said:

In addition to his arm I’m still worried about his last 6 or so quarters of ball.  He just hasn’t looked right since being tattooed by Douglas at GB.  I know he laughed it off but there was definitely a change to his game that ensued.

Now we’re thinking of taking a visibly dinged QB coming off almost 2 not so great games & trotting him out vs the Vikes. Color me concerned.

 

Yeah, I have been thinking about this a lot because he definitely didn't look right.  I can think of two times when Josh just seemed off like this.  One was when he hurt his shoulder against Oakland a few years ago.  He acted as if it were nothing and it wasn't affecting him, but he didn't look right for about 3 games.  The other was the middle of last year.  It's been pointed out that something happened at half time of the Tampa Bay game and he and the offense looked much better.  Seems like it was a mental/focus problem.  So, it could be a physical issue (either the Douglas hit or another hit), or it could be mental.  It's hard to tell the difference particularly since he downplays injuries.  Certainly I would hope that the coaches weren't calling runs if they knew or even suspected he was hurt.  Will just have to wait until Josh gets better and see how he looks then.

 

[Beck Water]

9 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

Seems like no one is discussing Josh's last 3 halves of decision making, and the sudden refusal to NOT take what the GB and NYJ defenses were giving him. Short and intermediate routes were open on many of the incompletions and interceptions in those 3 halves of bad passing offense, and Allen chose instead to be belligerently aggressive. 

 

Is it at all possible that forcing him to step back and see things objectively from the sideline for a game (or 2 or 3, god forbid) will actually help him remember what was propelling his early season ELITE play? Taking what the defenses were giving him early and often, and then as the game wears on, exploiting those moments where the opponents finally got impatient/aggressive? The big plays are earned by PROVING you'll take the small plays over and over. Our guy has definitely backslid into terrible habits, both with decision-making and, on some of those skipped throws to the right flat, mechanics. A step back might allow him to flush out those toxic tendencies.

 

This is just me, but I don't think there is anything "sudden" about the refusal here. 

 

I think Josh has been playing aggressive all season. 

 

The thing is, when it works and we score TDs in 3 plays from scrimmage starting at our 2 yard line as in the Steelers game, everyone is ready to canonize Josh.  Someone ( @HoofHearted?) said that the Steelers game may have been one of the worst things to happen to Josh.  He had 19.7 yds per completion in that game, AND he threw a bad interception to Levi Wallace (the target was Gabe Davis) from the Pitt 21 that took points off the board when the score was 10-7.  He threw it on a line as though Wallace were not anywhere near Davis, when in fact Wallace was between Davis and the ball and closing fast - throwing on an arc Davis could have run under would have probably been a touchdown.  Same pattern of INT he threw to Knox vs. the Jets.

 

My guess is that when their young QB throws for 432 yds and the team wins 38-3, Dorsey and McDermott can't read the Riot Act too effectively to Josh over whatever the hell that interception throw was to Davis. 

 

They can say "Josh, you have to take care of the football; Josh, you hurt the team when you take points off the board; Josh, we could have used that touchdown when we were winning only 10-3, it could have changed the game.  Josh, you can't do that." and Josh will hear "Josh, football; Josh, points; Josh, touchdown, winning, changed game!  Josh, do that!"  The media MVP clamor and fan adulation must be louder than the coaches.

 

There are a few INTs that can't be helped - deflections and such - or the receiver bobbles it and it's charged to the QB (though in those cases, the throw may have been poorly placed or had too much "pepper" on it - I thought for sure that one great catch Singletary made was gonna be deflected and picked).

 

But I think most of Josh's 8 interceptions have been poor decisions.  At least 5 of them.

 

 

 

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, What a Tuel said:

 

What do you mean? 2 of the 4 ints were short passes....

 

Still aggressive decision making.

 

vs GB, one was a short pass at the goal line.  He had McKenzie wide open on the R.  Early in the play, I think a plausible pass to Cook short of the goal line but trust an RB to make it in.    But Josh  was locked onto Gabe Davis who was coming across the back of the endzone, well covered by Zaire Alexander. 

 

"I was trying to dirt it" c'mon Josh, if you want to dirt a ball, throw it towards the R sideline, McKenzie was there and had the defender boxed out behind him like a basketball guard, Safe.  Or just throw it through the back of the endzone, as you say, it was a short pass from the GB 3 yard line.  It's 3rd down, we get a field goal and kick off.

 

A decision to dirt it in the crowded middle of the field was a stupid decision.

 

So was a decision to "float" a ball to Knox when Josh acknowledges he didn't have a clear view of the field because a DE was in his way.    It was 2nd down.  Throw it away, 3rd down.  Or throw on an arc to Knox and trust him to make it "his ball or no one's ball". 

 

Someone will no doubt hate this analogy, but it's like a hunter shooting a cow or a dog (or worse, a person) and excusing him or herself because he didn't have a clear view of the shot, there was a tree in the way.  "Be Sure of Your Target" is Gun Safety 101: "You're responsible for knowing what's in front of your target, near your target and beyond your target. If you aren't certain about any of the three, don't take the shot."

Edited November 10, 2022 by Beck Water

[TheWei44]

10 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

This is just me, but I don't think there is anything "sudden" about the refusal here. 

 

I think Josh has been playing aggressive all season. 

 

The thing is, when it works and we score TDs in 3 plays from scrimmage starting at our 2 yard line as in the Steelers game, everyone is ready to canonize Josh.  Someone ( @HoofHearted?) said that the Steelers game may have been one of the worst things to happen to Josh.  He had 19.7 yds per completion in that game, AND he threw a bad interception to Levi Wallace (the target was Gabe Davis) from the Pitt 21 that took points off the board when the score was 10-7.  He threw it on a line as though Wallace were not anywhere near Davis, when in fact Wallace was between Davis and the ball and closing fast - throwing on an arc Davis could have run under would have probably been a touchdown.  Same pattern of INT he threw to Knox vs. the Jets.

 

My guess is that when their young QB throws for 432 yds and the team wins 38-3, Dorsey and McDermott can't read the Riot Act too effectively to Josh over whatever the hell that interception throw was to Davis. 

 

They can say "Josh, you have to take care of the football; Josh, you hurt the team when you take points off the board; Josh, we could have used that touchdown when we were winning only 10-3, it could have changed the game.  Josh, you can't do that." and Josh will hear "Josh, football; Josh, points; Josh, touchdown, winning, changed game!  Josh, do that!"  The media MVP clamor and fan adulation must be louder than the coaches.

 

There are a few INTs that can't be helped - deflections and such - or the receiver bobbles it and it's charged to the QB (though in those cases, the throw may have been poorly placed or had too much "pepper" on it - I thought for sure that one great catch Singletary made was gonna be deflected and picked).

 

But I think most of Josh's 8 interceptions have been poor decisions.  At least 5 of them.

 

 

 

It's some of what you wrote above for sure, but the recent head scratchers are probably also due to better pass defenses, miscommunication, and other factors beyond simply being aggressive.  But you make some interesting, valid points . . .

Edited November 10, 2022 by TheWei44

[Beck Water]

11 minutes ago, TheWei44 said:

It's some of what you wrote above for sure, but the recent head scratchers are probably also due to better pass defenses, miscommunication, and other factors beyond simply being aggressive.  But you make some interesting, valid points . . .

 

Thanks!

 

I think you're absolutely correct that better pass defenses play a huge role.  Part of that role is, when you're playing a bad team with a poor pass defense, you can get away with some bad decisions and turnovers because you're still gonna get a ton of other opportunities and boatrace the team like we did the Rams and Titans and Steelers.   But if the Bills want to be Championship Caliber, then they have to train themselves and play like they're playing a great defense where 1-2 stupid interceptions that take points off the board and give the opponent opportunities, can be the difference between victory and defeat.

 

What do you mean by "other factors beyond simply being aggressive", especially with regard to the 2 INT vs the Packers and the 2 INT vs the Jets?

 

It's a valid point that there's a fine line between playing fearless/aggressive and willing to take shots (which we want) vs. being aggressive to the point of reckless.

Edited November 10, 2022 by Beck Water

[TheWei44]

9 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Thanks!

 

I think you're absolutely correct that better pass defenses play a huge role.  Part of that role is, when you're playing a bad team with a poor pass defense, you can get away with some bad decisions and turnovers because you're still gonna get a ton of other opportunities and boatrace the team like we did the Rams and Titans and Steelers.   But if the Bills want to be Championship Caliber, then they have to train themselves and play like they're playing a great defense where 1-2 stupid interceptions that take points off the board and give the opponent opportunities, can be the difference between victory and defeat.

 

What do you mean by "other factors beyond simply being aggressive", especially with regard to the 2 INT vs the Packers and the 2 INT vs the Jets?

 

It's a valid point that there's a fine line between playing fearless/aggressive and willing to take shots (which we want) vs. being aggressive to the point of reckless.

 

The two I mentioned are the primary ones, but I do wonder whether there's any truth to the mild concussion rumors from hits he took in both of those games.

[Hebert19]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

Was it copper lined? 😉

Basically just the socks with the toes cut off. Ha

[Beck Water]

2 minutes ago, TheWei44 said:

 

The two I mentioned are the primary ones, but I do wonder whether there's any truth to the mild concussion rumors from hits he took in both of those games.

 

I've actually wondered if that's an underdiscussed effect of the running Josh does and the hits he takes.  Valid point IMHO and would explain why a QB who normally has exemplary field vision and decision making suddenly "craps the bed".

 

The coaches like RBs to be able to come out of the game partly to clear their head after all the hits they take, but the QB can't come out.

Edited November 10, 2022 by Beck Water

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

I know I can’t say this without people not actually reading it and thinking I’m saying something I’m not…..

 

But I was thinking a few months ago what it would feel like to have the Eagles championship. Like imagine a world where somehow Keanum was forced to play and we somehow played extreme complimentary football, all the stars aligned and we won our only super bowl in history with a QB that we all know isn’t the answer. But just feeling that obligation of having to appreciate and honor the guy that finally delivered for us. And how strange that would feel. Because how do you turn around and bench this guy next year even-though obviously we would.

 

Again: not saying I want this, knowing it WONT happen, hoping Josh plays every second including this week, Keanum sucks….I’m saying I understand this. I’m just thinking out loud of how strange that Situation was and would be for us.

[MPL]

3 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I know I can’t say this without people not actually reading it and thinking I’m saying something I’m not…..

 

But I was thinking a few months ago what it would feel like to have the Eagles championship. Like imagine a world where somehow Keanum was forced to play and we somehow played extreme complimentary football, all the stars aligned and we won our only super bowl in history with a QB that we all know isn’t the answer. But just feeling that obligation of having to appreciate and honor the guy that finally delivered for us. And how strange that would feel. Because how do you turn around and bench this guy next year even-though obviously we would.

 

Again: not saying I want this, knowing it WONT happen, hoping Josh plays every second including this week, Keanum sucks….I’m saying I understand this. I’m just thinking out loud of how strange that Situation was and would be for us.

Eagles fans are 100% incapable of being happy with anything. 

[Golden]

13 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

It was on his R arm when he was returning from the UCL injury.

 

 

@Golden, where is this quoted from? It's kind of confusing, because the "by" authors are the ones who style themselves "pro football docs" but, they reference themselves in the quote.  Then there's also a quote from Alaina Getzenberg, our ESPN beat reporter, which I don't think Pro Football Docs would quote.

 

So I'm confused.

SIC (Sports Injury Central) email. 

take it for what it’s worth.  They form medical opinions (he is a surgeon) based on film study of injuries similar in style to Kyle Trimble of Banged up Bills.  It’s an opinion. 
McDermotts comment of “we will follow common sense” says more to me than Chao.   

          The promo from SIC; 

“As an SIC follower you will never miss our expert injury analysis from Pro Sports Doctors to give you the most accurate insider injury knowledge.”

     Chao states that he is with SICsports.com 

he introduces himself on his videos as “this is Dr. David Chao with SIC Sports Injury Central.com” 

[Seventeen]

26 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I know I can’t say this without people not actually reading it and thinking I’m saying something I’m not…..

 

But I was thinking a few months ago what it would feel like to have the Eagles championship. Like imagine a world where somehow Keanum was forced to play and we somehow played extreme complimentary football, all the stars aligned and we won our only super bowl in history with a QB that we all know isn’t the answer. But just feeling that obligation of having to appreciate and honor the guy that finally delivered for us. And how strange that would feel. Because how do you turn around and bench this guy next year even-though obviously we would.

 

Again: not saying I want this, knowing it WONT happen, hoping Josh plays every second including this week, Keanum sucks….I’m saying I understand this. I’m just thinking out loud of how strange that Situation was and would be for us.

 

See Trent Dilfer

[Chicken Boo]

42 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I know I can’t say this without people not actually reading it and thinking I’m saying something I’m not…..

 

But I was thinking a few months ago what it would feel like to have the Eagles championship. Like imagine a world where somehow Keanum was forced to play and we somehow played extreme complimentary football, all the stars aligned and we won our only super bowl in history with a QB that we all know isn’t the answer. But just feeling that obligation of having to appreciate and honor the guy that finally delivered for us. And how strange that would feel. Because how do you turn around and bench this guy next year even-though obviously we would.

 

Again: not saying I want this, knowing it WONT happen, hoping Josh plays every second including this week, Keanum sucks….I’m saying I understand this. I’m just thinking out loud of how strange that Situation was and would be for us.

 

Let's just hope Allen doesn't go the way of Carson Wentz.  😬

[Beck Water]

12 minutes ago, Golden said:

SIC (Sports Injury Central) email. 

take it for what it’s worth.  They form medical opinions (he is a surgeon) based on film study of injuries similar in style to Kyle Trimble of Banged up Bills.  It’s an opinion. 
McDermotts comment of “we will follow common sense” says more to me than Chao.   

          The promo from SIC; 

“As an SIC follower you will never miss our expert injury analysis from Pro Sports Doctors to give you the most accurate insider injury knowledge.”

     Chao states that he is with SICsports.com 

he introduces himself on his videos as “this is Dr. David Chao with SIC Sports Injury Central.com” 

 

OK.  I just found it confusing because the authors reference a group with a different name "ProFootballDoc", but Chao IS that group with a different name, so it's like they're trying to give their opinion more clout by referencing themselves as a separate entity  IYKWIM? 

 

Also, Trimble is associated with Chao as one of his "injury spotters", and what Chao says above strongly echos the analysis and conclusions Trimble wrote, but doesn't give him credit or delve into the reasoning behind his conclusion (about the next 3 games being on a short timeline etc etc)

 

Chao was the San Diego Chargers team doctor for many years and was somewhat controversial:

https://www.boltsfromtheblue.com/2013/4/22/4251626/san-diego-chargers-doctor-david-chao-has-chaotic-past

is a pretty good summary

 

That doesn't mean Chao isn't genuinely very knowledgeable about football injuries, from years of diagnosing and treating NFL football players, but it does mean instead of doing injury analysis as a sideline to a thriving medical or PT practice, it's kind of become his main gig.  So he has a motivation to "milk" injury news to drive clicks, if that makes sense?  And also to try to make his opinion seem weightier and more definitive so more people will read it.

 

I don't want to sound like I'm dismissing their analysis, like I said, he is very knowledgeable about football injuries from almost 2 decades of treating (or mistreating, as the case may be) them.

[transplantbillsfan]

4 hours ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

How about if he plays, I will leave the board the rest of the season and if he doesn’t, you will leave?

 

I wasn't betting, just asking if you'd leave out of embarrassment.

 

I, on the other hand, acknowledged that it's possible he doesn't play, but that it's much more likely he plays now.

[Playoffs?]

30 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

Let's just hope Allen doesn't go the way of Carson Wentz.  😬

No chance. Allen is completely different from Carson Wentz… and a lot of that is between his ears. Allen’s great play wasn’t a fluke.  I think the past couple weeks are a fluke… something is/was up with him. Not sure if mental or physical. Those 4 INT’s were so bad, it’s almost as if he tried to throw them. That’s not Allen. He’ll be ok. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 hour ago, MPL said:

Eagles fans are 100% incapable of being happy with anything. 

Unironically, so are Bills fans

 

[Warriorspikes51]

4 minutes ago, Playoffs? said:

No chance. Allen is completely different from Carson Wentz… and a lot of that is between his ears. Allen’s great play wasn’t a fluke.  I think the past couple weeks are a fluke… something is/was up with him. Not sure if mental or physical. Those 4 INT’s were so bad, it’s almost as if he tried to throw them. That’s not Allen. He’ll be ok. 

He didn't see the defender on the first one against the Jets, the D-lineman obscured his vision. May have been the same with Sauce int / route 

[Playoffs?]

1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

He didn't see the defender on the first one against the Jets, the D-lineman obscured his vision. May have been the same with Sauce int / route 

Still. Pretty underthrown. He was off for sure. 

[MPL]

3 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

1 hour ago, MPL said:

Eagles fans are 100% incapable of being happy with anything. 

Unironically, so are Bills fans

I am unhappy about this.

[BuffaloBaumer]

15 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

I wasn't betting, just asking if you'd leave out of embarrassment.

 

I, on the other hand, acknowledged that it's possible he doesn't play, but that it's much more likely he plays now.

I was merely stating the common sense of it all. Your entire Super Bowl season hinges on the health of Josh Allen and you think they are actually going to push him out there less than a week after tearing something in his elbow. Yes, I am quite confident he will not play and why you insist on taking this to leaving the board and bringing up embarrassment is quite strange, very strange actually.

[Warriorspikes51]

4 minutes ago, Playoffs? said:

Still. Pretty underthrown. He was off for sure. 

 

Remember his game against Atlanta last year? Similar in ugliness 2 or 3 ints (think he had 2 rush tds that game as well)

Then he played like a HOFer shortly afterward in playoffs 

Edited November 10, 2022 by Warriorspikes51

[Bills!Win!]

How did Keenum get the Vikings to an nfc championship game if he sucks? Maybe if you put a competent team around him he’ll be fine.