Josh Allen injury update(officially questionable - expected to start per Ian Rappaport)

[Greg S]

18 minutes ago, Lost said:

 

Okay guys.  Josh Allen is playing Sunday.   If he wasn't McD would have said as much.  Docs are probably urging some caution, Josh is urging the desire to play and McD is stuck in the middle but I ultimately think Josh's sway wins and he is on the field Sunday.  

 

 

Or he chooses not to say anything, so the Vikings have to prepare for both QB's

[Casey D]

Just now, Bob in STL said:

It would be nice to rest Allen for a week and still win this game.  The key to winning without Allen playing is simple to lay out, but not easy to do.  

 

1.  The defense needs to play great football and get turnovers.  With all the injuries this is not a given.  Hopefully Milano, Poyer, Tre, and Rosseau are back.  If they are I will feel a lot better.  

2.  The OL must run block better than they typically do, especially when the other team knows you are running.

3.  Special teams have to consistently set up favorable field position and no negative plays.

 

The hardest for this team to achieve is most likely #2.   Allen makes this mediocre OL look better than it is.   Hoping Brown is back at RT so that Knox can get more targets.  

 

It will be a battle on Sunday.   

Rousseau will not be back.

 

The line was not entirely, or even mostly IMO, for the problems last week.  The Jets were giving Allen underneath stuff, but he kept holding the ball looking for bigger plays.  This was regression on his part, as earlier in the season he was more patient and took the smaller stuff.  Allen is a smart guy, he will correct this but that is what happened last Sunday against a very good underrated defense.  

[1onemangang7]

2 minutes ago, Bills Fan in MD said:

This is the one game I have tickets for this year, so it will suck if Allen doesn't play, but Keenum should be fine.  I remember all the same handwringing when Kelly would go down because Frank Reich looked awful when entering a game.  Once he had time to work with the starters in practice, he looked so much better.  It's still going to be a challenge to beat the Vikings, especially with Keenum, but it's not going to be a repeat of the last week's Titans-Chiefs game.  But it does mean that the defense should have a chip on its shoulder.

Yes. Happy it's not Trubisky. They can't just run blitz him all day. He's been at war with Diggs. 

[TheBrownBear]

I say play Allen until his arm falls off.  Then tell him to tuck the ball under his left arm and run towards the endzone, hurdling obstacles as needed.

[newcam2012]

1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

 

Vikings underperform for the offensive talent they have and it's because of Cousins at QB.

However, he is capable of making a play or two to win a game. That's what he did last week. 

[njbuff]

3 minutes ago, Casey D said:

Look, it is almost certain he has a grade 1 sprain, which can include microtears.  If it was a grade 2 sprain, he would be out as he was in 2018.   

 

That being said, if he gets rest, he should be largely healed up in two weeks.  He should be good for sure for Detroit, unless something goes wrong.  You put him in without adequate rest, and he probably will have some trouble throwing, and could aggravate the injury.  So he can play, but should he?

 

Correct decision, IMO, is to let Keenum play the next two weeks, three if the recovery is slower.  I understand the #1 seed and all that, but the injury changes the calculus.  He needs to be healthy after Detroit.  If Keenum can go 1-1, or 2-1 with Detroit, everything will still be on the table.  Besides, given the last 6 quarters, giving Allen a little time to clear his head might not be a bad thing.  When he came back in 2018 after the UCL injury, he was a much better player.

 

Just my opinion... 

 

Fact is, if Allen misses multiple games, the Bills are going to be on the road for the playoffs.

This regime hasn’t won a road playoff game yet and the prospects won’t be any brighter for the 2022 playoffs.

 

So, if Allen can even throw a little, he’s playing.

 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

2 minutes ago, gridirongold said:

Yes. Happy it's not Trubisky. They can't just run blitz him all day. He's been at war with Diggs. 

I’d feel a lot better if we still had Mitch. He can run.

[zow2]

5 minutes ago, Bills Fan in MD said:

This is the one game I have tickets for this year, so it will suck if Allen doesn't play, but Keenum should be fine.  I remember all the same handwringing when Kelly would go down because Frank Reich looked awful when entering a game.  Once he had time to work with the starters in practice, he looked so much better.  It's still going to be a challenge to beat the Vikings, especially with Keenum, but it's not going to be a repeat of the last week's Titans-Chiefs game.  But it does mean that the defense should have a chip on its shoulder.

 

Coming in from for my one game as well.  If Allen plays, i expect a commitment to the ground game and short/med passes with chances for YAC.  If Keenum plays, i expect the exact same thing.

 

 

 

[Airseven]

The vagueness is annoying. Sounds like Allen is out Sunday at the very least.

[BillsBy50]

4 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

However, he is capable of making a play or two to win a game. That's what he did last week. 

Against the tanking Commies, yes tell me more.

[Casey D]

5 minutes ago, njbuff said:

 

Fact is, if Allen misses multiple games, the Bills are going to be on the road for the playoffs.

This regime hasn’t won a road playoff game yet and the prospects won’t be any brighter for the 2022 playoffs.

 

So, if Allen can even throw a little, he’s playing.

 

No.  That's not how this team rolls.  Your sweeping generalizations are also wrong.  Go 2-1 with Keenum and get Allen back for NE and we will be fine. 

Edited November 9, 2022 by Casey D

[KHAN]

Adam Benigni is such a horrible reporter.

 

McD: Josh is day to day. I'm not going to go in to specifics on the medical report.

 

Adam Benigni: What can you tell us about the medical report?

 

 

[BuffaloRebound]

Almost as important as Allen playing sunday is the status of Poyer and Milano.  We have no chance against a good team with Bernard and #4 Johnson starting.  

 

I’m not even gonna bother asking about White.  Maybe he’ll be mentally ready to get out there by the road playoff game at KC.  

[1onemangang7]

10 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I’d feel a lot better if we still had Mitch. He can run.

Mitch doesn't have it between the ears. NFL game is too fast. Helluva passer just hardly saw it at this level.

[CountDorkula]

7 minutes ago, Casey D said:

No.  That's not how this team rolls.  Your sweeping generalizations are also wrong.  Go 2-1 with Keenum and get Allen back for NE and we will be fine. 

Yea this team rolls as Allen rolls. 
 

Having Allen out for any extended period of time is a disaster for this team. 
 

allen is the offense. 
 

case Keenum is a longshot, just as any backup would be. 
 

This could be the worst case scenario for the Bills depending on Allens status. 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Warriorspikes51]

56 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Sat 4pm

 

Well Dr. Chao, I didn't ask for your opinion. THE WINTER SOLDIER IS PLAYING BABY!!!

28 minutes ago, Casey D said:

Look, it is almost certain he has a grade 1 sprain, which can include microtears.  If it was a grade 2 sprain, he would be out as he was in 2018.   

 

That being said, if he gets rest, he should be largely healed up in two weeks.  He should be good for sure for Detroit, unless something goes wrong.  You put him in without adequate rest, and he probably will have some trouble throwing, and could aggravate the injury.  So he can play, but should he?

 

Correct decision, IMO, is to let Keenum play the next two weeks, three if the recovery is slower.  I understand the #1 seed and all that, but the injury changes the calculus.  He needs to be healthy after Detroit.  If Keenum can go 1-1, or 2-1 with Detroit, everything will still be on the table.  Besides, given the last 6 quarters, giving Allen a little time to clear his head might not be a bad thing.  When he came back in 2018 after the UCL injury, he was a much better player.

 

Just my opinion... 

Hmmmm...I'll allow it 

[ProcessYaDigg]

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

I dunno why, but I've got a feeling that he'll play, and his level of play will be similar to Michael Jordan's flu game.

[ExiledInIllinois]

11 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

I’m not even gonna bother asking about White.  Maybe he’ll be mentally ready to get out there by the road playoff game at KC.  

 

Edited November 9, 2022 by ExiledInIllinois

[stevestojan]

So the options are play him against a team that would be a struggle anyway, or let him sit and nearly guarantee a loss against the Vikings but give Josh an extra week. 
 

I vote the latter 100% of the time IF an extra week can do anything for this type of injury. 
 

Basically guaranteeing a loss with Keenum in sucks, but a lingering injury for Josh could be franchise changing as hyperbolic as that may sound. 

Edited November 9, 2022 by stevestojan

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, ProcessYaDigg said:

I dunno why, but I've got a feeling that he'll play, and his level of play will be similar to Michael Jordan's flu game.

Not familiar with the history of basketball? What did MJ do?

Allen plays and  gets  400 Pass, 75 Rush,  6 TD's?  with a big brace on his arm

Allen did play with a brace in 2018 after returning didn't he?  

[stevestojan]

Just now, Warriorspikes51 said:

Not familiar with the history of basketball? What did MJ do?

Allen plays and  gets  400 Pass, 75 Rush,  6 TD's?  with a big brace on his arm

Was basically pooping his pants with the flu. Scored 38 points. It was the NBA finals. 

[K-9]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

Well he does knows next week’s opponent’s offense. As does Diggs.

I’m not so sure as both Keenum and Diggs are several seasons removed from the Vikings who’ve completely retooled their staffs since then. Are they still running the Stefanski schemes on offense and the Zimmer schemes on defense? I honestly don’t watch them enough to know. 

[SoCal Deek]

1 minute ago, stevestojan said:

Was basically pooping his pants with the flu. Scored 38 points. It was the NBA finals. 

Maybe we shouldn’t be wearing the white pants then. 😉

[stevewin]

Shocked it wasn't career ending Tommy john surgery 🙄

[Royale with Cheese]

10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

[Wayne Cubed]

 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Warriorspikes51]

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

No thanks Doctor. 

[Nextmanup]

I'm surprised the Diggs "REJOICE" tweet didn't generate a lot of conversation here!

 

I don't see anything on it!

 

I think fans missed it b/c it came later in the day when they are not trapped in cubicles at work and writing here.

 

I think it means that whatever came back came back negative meaning no surgery.

 

 

[John from Riverside]

I am bracing for case to play Sunday get those reps in Keenan

[Gugny]

5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

Eff this dude.

[Nextmanup]

3 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

No thanks Doctor. 

Is that based on your medical opinion, or simply because you don't like the idea of Josh missing football games?

 

 

Just now, Gugny said:

 

Eff this dude.

And that's base on what exactly? Don't like the news so attack the messenger?

 

🤔

[YoloinOhio]

Just now, Gugny said:

 

Eff this dude.

I know but thought we should post all angles since he asked team docs 😞

[Gugny]

Just now, Nextmanup said:

Is that based on your medical opinion, or simply because you don't like the idea of Josh missing football games?

 

 

And that's base on what exactly? Don't like the news so attack the messenger?

 

🤔

 

It's based on the fact that this guy has never been in the same goddamn room as Josh Allen, let alone seen any x-rays, MRIs, etc.  He's talking out of his ass.

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

Whether Allen is available or not, I'm thinking this is the perfect time for that effective running game a lot of posters have been calling for to show up.  

[Golden]

4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I know but thought we should post all angles since he asked team docs 😞

Ugh,

unfortunately, SIC is fairly accurate.  He went on to say that perhaps Allen returns after the Lions game 

[Gugny]

5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I know but thought we should post all angles since he asked team docs 😞

 

I have absolutely no issue with you posting it and agree with you 100%!!!  Sorry if I made you think otherwise, Yolo!

 

[RobbRiddick]

I feel like this thread needs more hysterics

 

[Lost]

5 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

It's based on the fact that this guy has never been in the same goddamn room as Josh Allen, let alone seen any x-rays, MRIs, etc.  He's talking out of his ass.

 

 

I liken people like that to weathermen.  They only get clicks or views by predicting bad weather.   If the weather is always beautiful, nobody even knows they exist.