The Firebaugh Kid Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Best receiver on that team IMO. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 This is a sad story, no catches means no Lamborghini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 He's being underutilized, no question. He's 5th in targets & 6th in receptions on the Jets, despite playing the most snaps of all WRs there. The almighty Breece Hall is ahead of him getting more targets. He's been vocal about wanting to be more involved for a few weeks, and it's still the same. He sees the Packers & Giants with dire needs at WR, and is hoping to force his way to one of those teams. I don't like how he's handling it, but can't really blame him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 19 minutes ago, Beck Water said: The guy had 90% of the offensive snaps and 4 targets for 53 yds with Wilson at QB in week 4. He saw his snaps cut the following week. Maybe there's a performance-based reason for that and he should look in the mirror. There is - it's their QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) I heard Zack Moss feels similar and loves NY city!!!! Edited October 21, 2022 by Sharky7337 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake_My_Head Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 I really wanted the Bills to take Elijah Moore in the draft, as a replacement for Beasley. But now I'm more than happy to have Shakir who I think will have a better career. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Warcodered said: But the Jets are such a huge threat. 🙄 Gonna be honest, I don't get how this news has anything to do with the Jets being perceived as a threat... sarcasm or not 😅 That'd be like news coming out that DaQuan Jones or McKenzie wanted a trade, & Jets fans saying "but the Bills are such a huge SB contender!" Doesn't really make sense 🤷♂️ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 What’s the bigger news here is that in the articles I have read about Moore’s low target %, Gabe Davis has a pretty comparable %. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34839826/frustrated-jets-wr-elijah-moore-excused-practice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) I was just laughing on the way home MOVIN the Chains, and they were laughing at his position. He’s a cheap talent picked in the 2nd RD., and Mims pulled this crap last year, and they just fined him for missing practice. This 22 yr. old will learn he’s a commodity for them for four years, and maybe the Jets have finally learned not to let the player push them around. He has zero leverage. You want to get more targets, a novel idea, PRODUCE in practice, and then take advantage in the games. Moving onto Cincinatti as one coached said. Edited October 21, 2022 by machine gun kelly 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 3 hours ago, No_Matter_What said: Maybe he has, but being this unhappy this early in the season raises a huge red flag imo. Zay Jones comes to mind 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 This would be a tremendous add for us. The kid escaped our grasp in the draft and now we have a chance to grab him. Beane should put together a great package with a draft choice or two and get this talented receiver. Moore would be prolific with Josh. The Jets would probably be reluctant to trade him within the division. Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: There is - it's their QB. I feel certain the QB made the decision to cut his snaps from 90% to 50 or 60%. The coaches grading whether or not he’s doing what he’s supposed to be doing in practice and his games would certainly have no bearing on that. Edited October 21, 2022 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 4 hours ago, billsfan_34 said: I like Shakir growing into our 3 I reallyyyyyy like Shakir. I might get blasted and im even hesitant but in an imaginary situation. I'd trade Shakir for him. Moore really has game breaking ability. A threat to take it to the house on any touch. Line him up near Gabe on a screen let the young men grind. Idk that i even think one's better than the other but different skill sets. A home run hitter in this offense would put us over the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Cry Baby ! give him some cheese to go along with the whine ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: What’s the bigger news here is that in the articles I have read about Moore’s low target %, Gabe Davis has a pretty comparable %. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34839826/frustrated-jets-wr-elijah-moore-excused-practice Different roles. Your slot guy should catch a high volume of short/underneath stuff. Gabe stretches the field. Lower volume. Apples n oranges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 5 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Monster usage? Absolutely not. Kirk targets by season: 2018: 68 2019: 108 2020: 78 2021: 103 Career high yards: 982 Next highest was 709 Is this a troll post? Cole Beasley in 2020 had just under 1000 yards iirc. Kirk had a 982 yard season and a 709 season while being targeted twice over 100 times as a slot receiver and he’s not being used a lot?!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 4 hours ago, Beck Water said: Guy has 16 receptions on 29 targets. 55% catch %. On pace for 500 yds. I'm sure GMs are ringing the phone off the hook. I always wonder about “targets”. How are the quality of targets taken into account? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 I like players who play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 4 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: You want to get more targets, a novel idea, PRODUCE in practice, and then take advantage in the games What if your QB sucks? If you’re a WR that can cost you millions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 7 hours ago, gonzo1105 said: He’s a great prospect, the Bills reportedly loved him coming out. He would blossom with Allen and upgrade the 3rd spot but the Jets will no way trade him to a divisional rival if at all So Bills South trade for him and they trade him to Carolina for future considerations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demongyz Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Who? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 If I am GB, he is my number 1 trade target. I would be on the phone easily offering a 3rd for him, would even consider a conditional 2nd. The guy can play, and he would instantly be the best WR on the Packers the moment he steps on the field. I really think he would be a stud with Rodgers in GB. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) Guessing if Zach Wilson showed as much interest in hooking up with his WRs as he did his Mom's friends, Moore might not be having issues getting targets since Wilson and the WRs would have spent time getting in sync in the offseason. Less time in the bedroom, more time on the field Lover Boy. Edited October 21, 2022 by Big Turk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 This one actually interests me if it could somehow be done. Clear McKenzie/Crowder upgrade obviously. It's probably fantasy Madden world to think it's even likely because the Jets won't just toss him over to the division leader, but I could see him thriving with Josh. Just give Josh your young, fast (4.34 40) and hungry, and they'll thrive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 6 hours ago, 947 said: He's been vocal about wanting to be more involved for a few weeks, and it's still the same. And that's now both Moore and Mims being vocal about lack of targets and wanting to leave this year. Paper Airplanes. Wake me up when the Fish go on a streak again because the Jets hype is even more ludicrous. They'll win more games with a solid defense and a lucky bounce here and there but that offense is still bottom third of the AFC. The ongoing dysfunction is borderline hilarious. Saleh's a good coach, but he's going to need another year or two. You can't win a Super Bowl when a significant chunk of your skill players want to leave... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 2nd round pick in his 2nd year. Jets aren't giving that away that early. & Given his stats, teams aren't offering a 2nd or 3rd for an unproven player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 9 hours ago, Eastport bills said: This would be a tremendous add for us. The kid escaped our grasp in the draft and now we have a chance to grab him. Beane should put together a great package with a draft choice or two and get this talented receiver. Moore would be prolific with Josh. The Jets would probably be reluctant to trade him within the division. Oh well. They absolutely would not swing him our way unless we overpaid a ton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 KC is freeing up cap space. Could a trade be in the works for Elijah Moore or maybe OBJ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 13 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: It's business. If he doesn't get targets he can't hit incentives and won't be able to negotiate the contract he feels he deserves. Not much different than the Marquise Brown situation in Baltimore. The Jets could be ruining his career. So you're saying they should trade him to the Ravens? 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 4 hours ago, longtimebillsfan said: KC is freeing up cap space. Could a trade be in the works for Elijah Moore or maybe OBJ? They’re going to do something. My guess is Robert Quinn or Cam Jordan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 He's benched for Sunday & not at practice today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 17 hours ago, Victory Formation said: 3rd + Zack Moss The only way that's happening is if we get nothing back in return but give them a 3rd to take Moss off our hands. OK, time to ask a serious question: Why are there so many posters who believe Zack Moss, who has no trade value and might not even get picked up if we waived him, is someone any other NFL team would trade for? 11 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said: He's benched for Sunday & not at practice today. His career appears to be following in the footsteps of Robert Foster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 9 hours ago, Nelius said: This one actually interests me if it could somehow be done. Clear McKenzie/Crowder upgrade obviously. It's probably fantasy Madden world to think it's even likely because the Jets won't just toss him over to the division leader, but I could see him thriving with Josh. Just give Josh your young, fast (4.34 40) and hungry, and they'll thrive. I am fine signing OBJ, but I would actually be MORE excited about trading for Elijah than signing OBJ. It will NEVER happen. Jets are NOT sending any help to the Bills, and Beane is NOT going to give up a good draft pick to get another WR. But, Elijah would be a better addition because he is full go and ready. OBJ is a proven stud, but we have no idea how good he will be this year after yet another major injury. Again, I am all for signing OBJ, I mean there isn't really any risk and even if he is 75% or what he was, he is still a lot better than McKenzie. Im just comparing the two to show how much confidence I have in Elijah Moore excelling with a good QB. I think this kid could be very good in a better situation. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 33 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: OK, time to ask a serious question: Why are there so many posters who believe Zack Moss, who has no trade value and might not even get picked up if we waived him, is someone any other NFL team would trade for? I often wonder this as well. I guess because he’s cost controlled on his rookie contract for a bit longer. He would 100% get picked up if waived though. Bills fans are too harsh on him. He might not be great but there’s a lot of running backs who would not look very good if they only had the amount of touches moss gets weekly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 18 hours ago, Don Otreply said: I love turmoil on opponents teams, its the best, GO BILLS!!! Amen 🙏!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: I often wonder this as well. I guess because he’s cost controlled on his rookie contract for a bit longer. He would 100% get picked up if waived though. Bills fans are too harsh on him. He might not be great but there’s a lot of running backs who would not look very good if they only had the amount of touches moss gets weekly. I think he'd clear waivers & end up on a practice squad. Maybe we'll find out within the next year who is right because as of now it's too speculative to be anything other than an opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 16 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: What’s the bigger news here is that in the articles I have read about Moore’s low target %, Gabe Davis has a pretty comparable %. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34839826/frustrated-jets-wr-elijah-moore-excused-practice But this is where blind stats are dumb. You need to break down the throw, the coverage, how deep it was, etc. like a screen pass is a lot different than a 30 yard one down the field. Moore flashed last year with multiple qbs not named Wilson, who has kinda sucked so far. He could be a steal for someone. Weirdly, the Jets have a pretty loaded receiver group with a bad qb . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Haven’t watched the Jets play this year yet but a little surprised to hear he is not being used, he’s a talented player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 50 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I am fine signing OBJ, but I would actually be MORE excited about trading for Elijah than signing OBJ. It will NEVER happen. Jets are NOT sending any help to the Bills, and Beane is NOT going to give up a good draft pick to get another WR. But, Elijah would be a better addition because he is full go and ready. OBJ is a proven stud, but we have no idea how good he will be this year after yet another major injury. Again, I am all for signing OBJ, I mean there isn't really any risk and even if he is 75% or what he was, he is still a lot better than McKenzie. Im just comparing the two to show how much confidence I have in Elijah Moore excelling with a good QB. I think this kid could be very good in a better situation. Totally agree. Also, OBJ was a declining player before this injury. Add to the his huge ego, Moore would be a much better fit imo. But unless we completely over pay, that won’t happen. But Moore makes so much sense with Allen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, wppete said: Haven’t watched the Jets play this year yet but a little surprised to hear he is not being used, he’s a talented player. The CS won't take the training wheels off game manager MILF man. Their offense runs thru Hall. Run the ball and play defense is what the Jets do. Edited October 21, 2022 by Greg S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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