EmotionallyUnstable Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 I know we aren’t quite a quarter of the way (dang you game 17!) but I was thinking about all of the surprise players and teams around the league, both the good, the bad and the ugly. Here are some of mine: Kyle Pitts - where did he disappear to?! Cowboys - somehow surprising still alive G-Men - Dabol has his boys finding a way Pete Werner - never knew the guy but he seems like a stud Bengals - just an average team? Hurts - I didn’t see that coming AFC West - were the Chiefs dominance really ever in doubt? Broncos and Raiders seem to be non factors What are yours? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conlan58 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Honestly - the Jaguars looking as good as they have was not on my radar for this year. Also +1 for Tua taking off the way he did - he had a great start to the season before concussed-gate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Bengals/Ravens is a big game next week. Not only divisional but both were assumed to be playoff teams and one will be at a troubling 2-3 in a crowded AFC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills2022 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Jets. They are no longer a gimme. 2 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: What are yours? It's a long, long season. I got to see more than 4 games as to what is likely to shake out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 My surprise is the Chiefs. I thought the loss of Hill would really take their offense down a few gears. And yet they actually seem to have the strongest team they've had in the last 3 years. I think they'll be a much harder out for us this year than last! 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills2022 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Nextmanup said: My surprise is the Chiefs. I thought the loss of Hill would really take their offense down a few gears. And yet they actually seem to have the strongest team they've had in the last 3 years. I think they'll be a much harder out for us this year than last! Agreed. Bills will beat them if they meet in playoffs but only if the game is in Orchard Park. I don't see the Bills going to KC and beating this Chiefs team in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Eagles' dominance. Bengals average play. Geno playing above average. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Geno Smith leading the NFL with an all time high passer rating of 77% through 4 games per some source I heard today somewhere.. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 I thin the giants just played their best four game stretch of the season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Not really things are unfolding as it looked. Still early also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Seahawks - a lot of folks thought they'd be in contention for the #1 overall pick next year but Geno Smith of all QB's is balling right now and if it keeps up they could definitely be in contention for the playoffs. KC/AFCW - Not nearly as good as advertised so far and KC looks like they are not only going to run away with this division but the best team in the AFC/NFL. Bills and every other team will likely have to go through KC yet again in playoffs. Giants - Still not sure they are legit but give Daboll/Schoen credit for trying their best 2017 Bills impersonation so far. Steelers - take away their fluke OT win in week one and this is a very bad team, might be in the #1 overall pick conversation. AFCE - Bills and Dolphins where I expected, Pats still not toast and Jets look a bit better than expected so far. Overall this might be best division in football Jaguars - Came down to earth again yesterday but this is a team with legit playoff/division title aspirations under Doug Pederson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Jalen Hurts looking sort of like an NFL Quarterback. 🤷♂️ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 I saw the Jags - Chargers game in person. Jags are going to be a tough out. I thought they had no where to go but up. However, didn’t think they would be a playoff contender and they might just win that division. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: I thin the giants just played their best four game stretch of the season of the last decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 I expected the Giants to be better - their coaching was terrible for years. Hurts seemed to have the ability to play and just needed time and devotion to craft and he had both. I expected Broncos to be better but it appears their QB needs to play in certaiun system or their HC is a putz (or both). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) Jared Goff and Amon-Ra St. Brown! Yes I have St. Brown in fantasy Edited October 3, 2022 by Big Blitz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Thought the Cardinals would show more life with the NFC West very much in question entering the season but...WOOF. They look mediocre at best. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: Thought the Cardinals would show more life with the NFC West very much in question entering the season but...WOOF. They look mediocre at best. They are 2-2 and still have room for improvement but it's no secret that both their HC and GM are on a very hot seat this year. It was also a very dumb move to give Murray a big contract extension as he's the most overrated QB in this league after Deshawn Watson. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 26 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: Pats still not toast Yeah they're fine. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 16 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Jared Goff and Amon-Ra St. Brown! Yes I have St. Brown in fantasy Goff is playing very well. His D is 32nd in points and yards. Jags are a bit of a surprise. Raiders suck---Carr is exactly who we thought he was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Positives __________ The Detroit Lions leading the league in yards and points with the #1 Offense Jalen Hurts The Jaguars Tua The Giants and the resurgence of Saquon Cooper Rush led Cowboys The NFC East looking a lot stronger than expected Negatives: ____________ The Detroit Lions leading the league in yards and points surrendered with the dead-last #32 defense The Broncos pitiful offense Christian McCaffery looking human The AFC West looking a lot weaker than expected 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mabden Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: I know we aren’t quite a quarter of the way (dang you game 17!) but I was thinking about all of the surprise players and teams around the league, both the good, the bad and the ugly. Here are some of mine: Kyle Pitts - where did he disappear to?! Atlanta Cowboys - somehow surprising still alive Rust is a better QB than Dax G-Men - Dabol has his boys finding a way Amazing what competent play calling will do for a team. Pete Werner - never knew the guy but he seems like a stud Don't know him Bengals - just an average team? They outplayed themselves last year and their O-line investment hasn't paid off yet Hurts - I didn’t see that coming Once they named him the starter, it ended all the bull crap surrounding him AFC West - were the Chiefs dominance really ever in doubt? Broncos and Raiders seem to be non factors New coaches rarely do well with new teams. What are yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: I know we aren’t quite a quarter of the way (dang you game 17!) but I was thinking about all of the surprise players and teams around the league, both the good, the bad and the ugly. Here are some of mine: Kyle Pitts - where did he disappear to?! Cowboys - somehow surprising still alive G-Men - Dabol has his boys finding a way Pete Werner - never knew the guy but he seems like a stud Bengals - just an average team? Hurts - I didn’t see that coming AFC West - were the Chiefs dominance really ever in doubt? Broncos and Raiders seem to be non factors What are yours? If he wins with Davis Webb I think that Brian Dabul should be in line for coach of the year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Cowboys have been blessed with a backup QB that actually wants to get a first down before they are down 20 points. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lothar Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: Jared Goff and Amon-Ra St. Brown! Yes I have St. Brown in fantasy Absolutely! Whodathunk the Lions would be the highest scoring offense in the NFL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 I probably stop by the Patriots boards too much - but the role reversal we've had w/ them is entertaining. They're celebrating moral victories, complaining about how Mahomes & Allen receive preferential "star" treatment from the refs, and now they have a budding "QB controversy," starring 2 mediocre QB's. They're also starting to talk about the 2023 draft in October. It's kind of surreal to read. You would have seen most of the same sentiments on here a decade ago. 1 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray51 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Geno Smith is the most interesting for me. Pete Carroll having that offense actually producing is surprising. Although Rashad Penny is a stud. Jets are not a good team - they are lucking into victories against bad teams Dallas has had an easy schedule, and are finding ways to win. They likely finish around 9-8 Giants are a very fortunate 3-1. They should end the year with maybe 7 wins. Barkley is playing out of his mind right now Bengals were never a great team. Teams are forcing Burrow to not throw to Chase, and he is simply holding the ball too long. And their o-line has no consistency. You think your frustrated with our run game? Watch a Bengals game... Couple surprises: 1) Didnt expect the Packers to struggle THIS much. They look pedestrian 2) Brady looks old to me. Yea his team will win 11-12 games, but he looks as bad as ive seen him look in his career. I really think this is his last season 3) Nick Chubb is even better then I thought. Might be the best back in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted October 4, 2022 Author Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Cray51 said: Geno Smith is the most interesting for me. Pete Carroll having that offense actually producing is surprising. Although Rashad Penny is a stud. Jets are not a good team - they are lucking into victories against bad teams Dallas has had an easy schedule, and are finding ways to win. They likely finish around 9-8 Giants are a very fortunate 3-1. They should end the year with maybe 7 wins. Barkley is playing out of his mind right now Bengals were never a great team. Teams are forcing Burrow to not throw to Chase, and he is simply holding the ball too long. And their o-line has no consistency. You think your frustrated with our run game? Watch a Bengals game... Couple surprises: 1) Didnt expect the Packers to struggle THIS much. They look pedestrian 2) Brady looks old to me. Yea his team will win 11-12 games, but he looks as bad as ive seen him look in his career. I really think this is his last season 3) Nick Chubb is even better then I thought. Might be the best back in the game. Free agent next year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Oi Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) I'll start with the iggles , didn't see Hurts coming...How bad can a Hackett led team with Russell Wilson get? (Never liked his Dad or him).Let's give Dabs credit that roster at 3-1??? AFCW dominance? Not seeing it...The importance of having a true #1 WR, having 2 a needed luxury...Geno, need I say more...Chargers still Chargering (does that count?). Tua pulling fitzmagic not fitztragic (still don't believe in them, We lost that game more then they won it). Colts falling off the cliff and Jags looking like best team in AFCS...I expected more from Baker with his back against the wall too. I'll close with a thinly laid veil o0n the importance of a holder. Look no further than our friend Bojo and how many games he has lost with bad holds, just sayin'... Edited October 4, 2022 by Craig Oi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 1. Hurts and Eagles - Hurts is playing really well. MVP candidate well. 2. Wilson playing so poorly in Denver - many on this board said he was overrated. Looks like they were correct 3. Mayfield being really awful - thought last year the poor play was his injured shoulder. He is playing his way out of the NFL 4. Colts really being terrible - I had them running away with that division. Reich is going to lose his job 5. Doug Pederson - he is making Jacksonville respectable and Reich is getting worse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Bills2022 said: Jets. They are no longer a gimme. Lol. So should we be afraid of them more than your "better coached" Steelers Gimme a break. Too funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Nextmanup said: My surprise is the Chiefs. I thought the loss of Hill would really take their offense down a few gears. And yet they actually seem to have the strongest team they've had in the last 3 years. I think they'll be a much harder out for us this year than last! We need that playoff game in Highmark Stadium to crush the Chiefs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Top of the board surprises: * Eagles. 4-0 * Miami 3-1 * Dallas. 3-1. (Minus Prescott) * Giants 3-1 (Without a real QB) Not expected on the board: * Bengals 2-2 * Baltimore 2-2 (Blowing 2 big 4th QTR leads) * Rodgers or Brady ARE not in the MVP Conversation * A very confusing NFC North * A competitive AFC East *. Three teams with at least 3 wins in NFC East Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: It's a long, long season. I got to see more than 4 games as to what is likely to shake out. So you can’t think of anything either, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 minute ago, buffaloboyinATL said: So you can’t think of anything either, huh? LOL. No, I'm just an old man who has seen a lot of seasons and how things can change after a few games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Nextmanup said: My surprise is the Chiefs. I thought the loss of Hill would really take their offense down a few gears. And yet they actually seem to have the strongest team they've had in the last 3 years. I think they'll be a much harder out for us this year than last! I mean true but not true. Id say a little early to tell. Just last week they lost to the Colts and only scored 17 points. The Colts have played like dog ***** outside of that game. They will always have a good offense with Mahomes, Kelce, and Reid though. 2 hours ago, CNYfan said: Eagles' dominance. Bengals average play. Geno playing above average. 2 hours ago, wjag said: Geno Smith leading the NFL with an all time high passer rating of 77% through 4 games per some source I heard today somewhere.. Geno Smith would have to be my biggest surprise yes. Edited October 4, 2022 by Scott7975 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 I agree about KC. They've played no one so far. The Cardinals, a very average team at best. The Raiders, are currently bad team. The Colts, are currently a bad team. And the Bucs, who are struggling at 2-2. The Bucs wins are from the first 2 weeks against Dallas(with Dak) and the Saints who are 1-3. The Bucs went into last night averaging less than 18 points a game. This is not the same Bucs team from the last few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 I know it's early but I LOVE seeing the PATS* last in the division. Feel like that trend will continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 The quarter pole is passed when there is a quarter mile left in a horse race. We are at roughly the 3/4 pole at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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