NewEra Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: The Bills played their best football of the season to close out last year without Tre on the field…. They’ll be fine assuming the offense puts up points. They did. Playing against Mac Jones x3, Darnold, Zack Wilson, the offenseless falcons. Then they couldn’t stop the same offense that they shut down earlier in the season with Tre….. to end the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forlorn hope Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, NewEra said: They did. Playing against Mac Jones x3, Darnold, Zack Wilson, the offenseless falcons. Then they couldn’t stop the same offense that they shut down earlier in the season with Tre….. to end the season. Tre plays vs the chiefs we win by 10. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 28 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: Bradberry and Gilmore were both FAs. His solution was to pay out cap we didn’t have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Virgil said: Definitely saw this coming. Timing sucks with Robinson and Kupp in week 1. Weeks 2-4 don’t concern me as much Tyreek on the outside in week 3 scares me about a bajillion times more than Allen Robinson Edited August 30, 2022 by gobills404 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykidsdad Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 This sucks, but I have no worries about our DBs. None. This staff can pick and coach DBs. No question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 It's worrying but the only way I see it being a major problem is if the reconfigured D line isn't able to get after the QB at all. Elam will give up his fair share of catches but he'll also make a lot of pass breakups in between Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, gobills404 said: Tyreek on the outside in week 3 scares me about a bajillion times more than Allen Robinson That one doesn’t as much. That’s what we drafted Elam for. So long as he has safety help, he should be fine. Hill burned Levi, but not much else against others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Right on schedule.., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 27 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Get ready for some "bend don't break" cover 2 zone vs the Rams next week. Lots of 6-12 yard catches and trying to take away the big plays. Going to be very frustrating to watch That pretty much describes a lot of the Bills philosophy on defense anyway. That’s the case with or without White. There will be some differences but they’re not an attacking style defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Back2Buff said: What an absolute disaster of an operation this FO did this offseason at the DB position. Can't believe we are playing the first four games with 2 rookies and a 7th round young DB as our CBs. And both toilets are down near McDs office. I FLUSHED AND FLUSHED....nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern bills Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 56 minutes ago, Playoffs? said: correct… against the Panthers (forgot who was playing QB), the Patriots (Mac), the Falcons (Matty Ice Statue), the Jets (ha!), and the Patsies again. Then we got to a good team, with a good QB and good WR’s…. And they put up 42 on us. Week 1 is Stafford, Kupp, and Robinson… Like I said, I hope my gut feel is wrong! So do you feel we should have signed a veteran just because of the first game, or are you also concerned about games 2-4? While I do think the Rams are a different problem than the next 3-4 games I am not sure it was worth the cap dollars to get someone who would have wanted to start all year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Back2Buff said: What an absolute disaster of an operation this FO did this offseason at the DB position. Can't believe we are playing the first four games with 2 rookies and a 7th round young DB as our CBs. Yes, completely trash the guys doing the team building because they didn't sign "insert washed up veteran" and are going with what they see in front if them, and of course Tre back by week 5-8. Why trust the only GM/HC that has brought a winner to WNY in some time. Take it easy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 We've known that this situation with White could linger into the season, instead of wasting money on a bum TE like O.J. Howard we could have re-signed Levi Wallace, he isn't perfect by any means but we're in a SB window with 2 rookie corners and Dane Jackson. There were plenty of options during the season to sign 1 or 2 in FA, even when Tre returns he's missed a ton of football and may need the season just to get back to football form let alone elite form. If Elam plays at an all pro level then awesome, we dodged a bullet there but if not it's going to be an issue for sure. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Dane Jackson has looked great - and a 1st rounder should be able to start on day 1. This is how depth gets built. You can have good players waiting in the wings - but they also need experience. Hopefully, this will serve the Bills better down the home stretch & in the playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Back2Buff said: What an absolute disaster of an operation this FO did this offseason at the DB position. Can't believe we are playing the first four games with 2 rookies and a 7th round young DB as our CBs. Based on the little emoji buttons in the bottom right hand corner of this post, it looks like the current score is 22 people that disagree in some way or another, 1 person that agrees. Safe to say that yours is a minority opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 I really hope they nurse this as long as possible and focus on the long term. Keep him out 6, 8 weeks if they have to, do it the right way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 22 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said: We've known that this situation with White could linger into the season, instead of wasting money on a bum TE like O.J. Howard we could have re-signed Levi Wallace, he isn't perfect by any means but we're in a SB window with 2 rookie corners and Dane Jackson. There were plenty of options during the season to sign 1 or 2 in FA, even when Tre returns he's missed a ton of football and may need the season just to get back to football form let alone elite form. If Elam plays at an all pro level then awesome, we dodged a bullet there but if not it's going to be an issue for sure. Levi Wallace 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️😵💫 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 This is why I expect us to dial up more pressure this year early on. It’s time for the offense and that DL to shine to start the year. Let’s start a week from Thursday and put 35 on the Champs with 3-4 sacks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97bills Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 hour ago, ProcessAccepted said: The focus will be whether all the investment in the D Line can give the rooks a chance to grown and learn without getting murdered. Bingo- I think this is what it comes down too all year , and if we win a ring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 25 minutes ago, Southern bills said: So do you feel we should have signed a veteran just because of the first game, or are you also concerned about games 2-4? While I do think the Rams are a different problem than the next 3-4 games I am not sure it was worth the cap dollars to get someone who would have wanted to start all year. Yeah good question.. and definitely a reason why I’m not an NFL GM! To answer your question, I’m definitely concerned about 2-4, and then beyond if Tre is out longer or not back to his health/game. But my concern is more an uncertainty fear… we’re asking a ton out of some inexperienced players. Don’t know that there’s a great solution… just hope we can apply some massive pressure on D, and the offense puts up big points. Would love nothing more than to see these rookies shut it down on D though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Back2Buff said: Bradberry and Gilmore were both FAs. At first I thought you were being sarcastic.. Unfortunately not. He will not be able to practice with the team until after the first 4 weeks. This likely means 6 weeks or more before we see him in a game. This is not ideal, but survivable. The priority should be, and seems to be, to make sure he is fully healthy before putting him out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 No surprise. I did expect them to make an addition or two in the offseason in anticipation of this (especially with Wallace gone, as well). It is a thin and inexperienced group at CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Forlorn hope said: You do realize Elam and Benford are really good right. I trust McDermott with the secondary How would he know that? No one has seen them play a real game yet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 51 minutes ago, Southern bills said: So do you feel we should have signed a veteran just because of the first game, or are you also concerned about games 2-4? While I do think the Rams are a different problem than the next 3-4 games I am not sure it was worth the cap dollars to get someone who would have wanted to start all year. First off welcome to the board Southern bills! Good post. After the Rams its, Tannehill, Tua and Jackson. Not exactly 3 QBs putting a ton of pressure on CBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Let’s hope it’s only 4 weeks. but better safe than sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 2 hours ago, marck said: The answer was to draft a CB in the first round, then we got a bonus by getting Benford in the 6th, so it may not be the best situation buts it’s manageable Well said Marck. They couldn’t know the final on Tre as they had to see the progress. The Rams are the team to worry about, but that’s over. We picked two guys in the draft, so what does someone want? If we play man the first week, Elam will be fine. Dane did fine from thanksgiving through the playoffs: Elam is certainly better even as a rookie than Wallace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Let’s hope the Bills are no worse than 2-2 should T.White return ready for action for game 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 2 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: Get ready for some "bend don't break" cover 2 zone vs the Rams next week. Lots of 6-12 yard catches and trying to take away the big plays. Going to be very frustrating to watch Then don't watch. Hate to see you get frustrated. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Back2Buff said: What an absolute disaster of an operation this FO did this offseason at the DB position. Can't believe we are playing the first four games with 2 rookies and a 7th round young DB as our CBs. Taron will play one side, Elam on the other. It will be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 55 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said: Levi Wallace 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️😵💫 Yes, do you have an actual comment about it because I don't speak emoji. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rat-boy Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Back2Buff said: What an absolute disaster of an operation this FO did this offseason at the DB position. Can't believe we are playing the first four games with 2 rookies and a 7th round young DB as our CBs. This is an interesting take. They clearly understood the risk and seems to me upgraded the pass rush and drafted two CBs to compensate. I would hardly term it a disaster of an operation…but feel free to indulge in histrionics if it makes you feel good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 I am very happen with the delay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 13 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said: Yes, do you have an actual comment about it because I don't speak emoji. He was starting most of the year he was let go because he wasn’t that good, his coverage in the KC debacle was a big reason why we lost. They wanted to move on to get a better athlete and upgrade the position. Bringing him back would not have upgraded the position, it left us with the same problem. Can you understand that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 22 minutes ago, Beast said: Then don't watch. Hate to see you get frustrated. Yes let's all just love every move the team makes. Don't have your own thoughts on the situation. Just be a robot 🤖 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Forlorn hope said: Tre white won't be back until after the bye week after week 5 imho. Ike boettger probably back a little after mid season To be honest, I think it’s unlikely that White will be back anywhere close to 100% at any point this season. He may play, but I doubt he will be fully confident in his knee and that’s not even factoring in the rust. I think next season is more likely before we see the old Tre White. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 15 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Yes let's all just love every move the team makes. Don't have your own thoughts on the situation. Just be a robot 🤖 The Bills defense has been built by trying to take away the big play for the last 5 years. Have you even bothered to notice what I assume you have been watching? You are posting like that is some shocking relevation. Have you been frustrated watching them for the past 5 seasons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Oh well, at least the DL is deep and the safety tandem is elite. Also remember the Fins have Tua , not Mahomes, throwing it to Tyreek Hill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: as another poster noted, this is a bad play by the FO not getting a vet opposite Jackson. We don’t have games to “play with” trying to get the 1 seed. Hopefully Elam or Benford is up to the task. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 29 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said: He was starting most of the year he was let go because he wasn’t that good, his coverage in the KC debacle was a big reason why we lost. They wanted to move on to get a better athlete and upgrade the position. Bringing him back would not have upgraded the position, it left us with the same problem. Can you understand that? No I don't understand that, he wasn't let go he was signed by the Steelers as a free agent. He wasn't the only defensive back to have a terrible game, both our all pro safeties got lit up also. I prefer a guy who has been there and done that, having 2 rookies trying to learn the ropes in a SB window is just irresponsible. Again if both the rookies play like all pro's then they dodged a bullet but if they don't we may be scrambling to find some help. I don't hate the Bills or the coaching staff and I'm not saying we'll lose every game because of it but it seems we've neglected to add veterans back there for some odd reason. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 A few thoughts... Tre day should only return when he's ready, full stop. Levi Wallace was simply JAG that has largely benefitted from our system and coaches that get the most out of DB's. Those wishing we kept him and payed a premium for mediocre play when we can get similar from a guy like Benford that we drafted even higher than Wallace aren't being very logical. We drafted Elam who based on his college play and physical talent should do as good, if not a better job. This is how McD and the organization operates when it comes to defensive backs. They will draft and coach up at a position they feel is their strength. A first round investment and a promising sixth rounder shows they dedicated resources to help strengthen that area of need. They also invested heavily on the D line so that hopefully they take pressure off of the linebackers and secondary by generating more pressures, hurries, and sacks. We also have probably the best safety tandem helping our corners behind them, and one of the better slot corners in Taron Johnson. This isn't the major concern some are making it to be. Tre will be a great piece to add to an already great defense Once he's ready. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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