Charles Romes Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 With the irrefutable evidence we now have that it was always all-Brady, Belichick is desperate to salvage some portion of his legacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syhuang Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Three years ago: Jarrett Stidham turning heads at Patriots camp Bill Belichick said Tuesday, per Callahan, that early practices are usually the hardest because the team's playbook is constantly rotating and expanding. But Stidham isn't shrinking. He's thriving. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 ***** mac jones, his team, and everything he stands for. anyone scared of him needs to do a testicular check and make sure they're still attached. 1 1 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, teef said: ***** mac jones, his team, and everything he stands for. anyone scared of him needs to do a testicular check and make sure they're still attached. Tell us how you REALLY feel though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Logic said: Tell us how you REALLY feel though. i have an odd, unnecessary anger towards mac jones. it's not explainable, but it's there. in my defense, i had the same unexplainable anger towards jared from subway, and i was balls on accurate with that one. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Success said: Outside of New England, I doubt any fanbase knows and understands the Sith Lord more than Bills fans. He doesn't say stuff like that. Just wanted to get a temperature out there: there has been a ton of Jones hype this offseason, and at minimum, he IS in much better shape physically. Any concern at all that we could be in for another run from that team? Obviously, we're still top dog for the time being, but if Jones does pan out, I could see them being more like Miami was in the '90's to the team we had then. My own 2 cents is that I still don't see it. He can't really improvise, and arm strength will always be an issue. He also struggles against man coverage. But he does have the cerebral thing. I'd say that Belichick going out of his way to heap that amount of praise onto McCorkle means that he actually STINKS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 More like an indictment of the Cheaters' defense. Josh will (still continue to) eat them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Greg S said: The measure of greatness in a QB is how he handles those pressure packed moments from March to July. Or how well he gets to know his mom's friends 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 (edited) Bill belicheck laughed at Josh allen being a MVP candidate too - and then got castrated by him in the playoffs Edited July 26, 2022 by Sharky7337 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Success said: Outside of New England, I doubt any fanbase knows and understands the Sith Lord more than Bills fans. He doesn't say stuff like that. Just wanted to get a temperature out there: there has been a ton of Jones hype this offseason, and at minimum, he IS in much better shape physically. Any concern at all that we could be in for another run from that team? Obviously, we're still top dog for the time being, but if Jones does pan out, I could see them being more like Miami was in the '90's to the team we had then. My own 2 cents is that I still don't see it. He can't really improvise, and arm strength will always be an issue. He also struggles against man coverage. But he does have the cerebral thing. They can have the second coming of Johnny Unitas… Josh Allen is in Buffalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 (edited) “He is accurate, makes good decisions and has a good feel for the position. He has been very efficient. Even last year when he stepped in he seemed to have a good presence on the field and good command of the offense.” - Bill Belichick on Trent Edwards in 2008. "I think he's got the ability to make all the throws. Can throw down the field, intermediate throws. Plenty of examples of him going through a read progression . . . I think he's shown the ability to do everything. The consistency has looked better in recent weeks. Don't think there's any shortage of talent there, playmaking ability. We saw him run . . . He's an athletic guy that has great size. Good arm. Hard to tackle in the pocket. " - Bill Belichick on Sam Darnold in 2020. “He gets rid of the ball very quickly, doesn’t hold it much, sees coverage well, has taken good care of the ball, hasn’t thrown the ball to the defense. He understands the pressure, the timing of routes, gets the ball out quickly, and has enough quickness in the pocket to make it difficult for the pass rush to get to him. He can run a little bit, but I would say he’s more of a quicker guy in the pocket that’s elusive and really wants to throw more than he wants to run.” - Bill Belichick on Tua Tagovailoa in 2021. I just wanted to point out that Bill Belichick saying nice things about bad and mediocre quarterbacks is a pretty common occurrence. Edited July 26, 2022 by Logic 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 I'll start to take Mac Jones seriously as a QB if he ever defeats the Bills in a game where he has to throw more than 3 passes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Maybe Mac is impressing Tua…, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 10 minutes ago, Logic said: “He is accurate, makes good decisions and has a good feel for the position. He has been very efficient. Even last year when he stepped in he seemed to have a good presence on the field and good command of the offense.” - Bill Belichick on Trent Edwards in 2008. "I think he's got the ability to make all the throws. Can throw down the field, intermediate throws. Plenty of examples of him going through a read progression . . . I think he's shown the ability to do everything. The consistency has looked better in recent weeks. Don't think there's any shortage of talent there, playmaking ability. We saw him run . . . He's an athletic guy that has great size. Good arm. Hard to tackle in the pocket. " - Bill Belichick on Sam Darnold in 2020. “He gets rid of the ball very quickly, doesn’t hold it much, sees coverage well, has taken good care of the ball, hasn’t thrown the ball to the defense. He understands the pressure, the timing of routes, gets the ball out quickly, and has enough quickness in the pocket to make it difficult for the pass rush to get to him. He can run a little bit, but I would say he’s more of a quicker guy in the pocket that’s elusive and really wants to throw more than he wants to run.” - Bill Belichick on Tua Tagovailoa in 2021. I just wanted to point out that Bill Belichick saying nice things about bad and mediocre quarterbacks is a pretty common occurrence. Yeah but he always heaps praise on his opponents and he tells his players to do the same. even clearly terrible teams he talks up like they’re great. https://www.masslive.com/patriots/2019/09/bill-belichick-talks-up-every-opponent-so-how-did-he-try-to-praise-195-point-underdog-dolphins.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/10/01/redskins-would-be-lot-fun-if-they-were-good-bill-belichick-says-they-are/ he also uses any comments the other team makes as bulletin board material. https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/how-bill-belichick-motivates-patriots-players-using-opponents-comments it’s a coaching strategy of his. Endlessly praise the opponents while using anything they say as bulletin board material for his team. Id like to see how he normally talks about his own QBs to the media. Like what did he say in the past about previous QBs they drafted. I think that would be more relevant. (not that I think his praise of Mac Jones actually means much anyway). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 17 minutes ago, Logic said: “He is accurate, makes good decisions and has a good feel for the position. He has been very efficient. Even last year when he stepped in he seemed to have a good presence on the field and good command of the offense.” - Bill Belichick on Trent Edwards in 2008. "I think he's got the ability to make all the throws. Can throw down the field, intermediate throws. Plenty of examples of him going through a read progression . . . I think he's shown the ability to do everything. The consistency has looked better in recent weeks. Don't think there's any shortage of talent there, playmaking ability. We saw him run . . . He's an athletic guy that has great size. Good arm. Hard to tackle in the pocket. " - Bill Belichick on Sam Darnold in 2020. “He gets rid of the ball very quickly, doesn’t hold it much, sees coverage well, has taken good care of the ball, hasn’t thrown the ball to the defense. He understands the pressure, the timing of routes, gets the ball out quickly, and has enough quickness in the pocket to make it difficult for the pass rush to get to him. He can run a little bit, but I would say he’s more of a quicker guy in the pocket that’s elusive and really wants to throw more than he wants to run.” - Bill Belichick on Tua Tagovailoa in 2021. I just wanted to point out that Bill Belichick saying nice things about bad and mediocre quarterbacks is a pretty common occurrence. This is better research than one normally hears on TV from obnoxious screaming football "experts". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Oh the shark bites, with his teeth, dear.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Success said: Outside of New England, I doubt any fanbase knows and understands the Sith Lord more than Bills fans. He doesn't say stuff like that. Just wanted to get a temperature out there: there has been a ton of Jones hype this offseason, and at minimum, he IS in much better shape physically. Any concern at all that we could be in for another run from that team? Obviously, we're still top dog for the time being, but if Jones does pan out, I could see them being more like Miami was in the '90's to the team we had then. My own 2 cents is that I still don't see it. He can't really improvise, and arm strength will always be an issue. He also struggles against man coverage. But he does have the cerebral thing. I'm sure he's pretty similar to how he was last year - I'm not sure why they haven't really surrounded him with playmakers while hes on his rookie deal. They will run the ball and attack with PA like they did last year, the defense there is worse than it was a year ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never NEVER Give-up Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Headline was: New England Patriots' Mac Jones made 'tremendous strides' during NFL offseason, Bill Belichick says My read: Belichick thought Mac Jones sucked last year too! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Success said: Outside of New England, I doubt any fanbase knows and understands the Sith Lord more than Bills fans. He doesn't say stuff like that. Just wanted to get a temperature out there: there has been a ton of Jones hype this offseason, and at minimum, he IS in much better shape physically. Any concern at all that we could be in for another run from that team? Obviously, we're still top dog for the time being, but if Jones does pan out, I could see them being more like Miami was in the '90's to the team we had then. My own 2 cents is that I still don't see it. He can't really improvise, and arm strength will always be an issue. He also struggles against man coverage. But he does have the cerebral thing. We whupped there ass in New England late in the season and then put a historic beatdown on them in the playoffs. Mac Jones isn't scaring anyone with his noodle arm. The guy doesn't suck, (but starting NFL QB's are not supposed to suck) but he can't move and has nothing dynamic to his game. Bring on all comers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Looks like we picked the wrong week 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: I don’t really see it…I think he’ll be consistently good but he came into the league pretty close to his ceiling and faded pretty hard against better competition down the stretch. A qbs development isn’t always linear with improvements each year…a lot of guys have their best year their rookie year before defenses adjust to their tendencies then flame out I tend to agree at this early stage. Certainly has skills but I see him as Sam Darnold2 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Wiz Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Logic said: “He is accurate, makes good decisions and has a good feel for the position. He has been very efficient. Even last year when he stepped in he seemed to have a good presence on the field and good command of the offense.” - Bill Belichick on Trent Edwards in 2008. "I think he's got the ability to make all the throws. Can throw down the field, intermediate throws. Plenty of examples of him going through a read progression . . . I think he's shown the ability to do everything. The consistency has looked better in recent weeks. Don't think there's any shortage of talent there, playmaking ability. We saw him run . . . He's an athletic guy that has great size. Good arm. Hard to tackle in the pocket. " - Bill Belichick on Sam Darnold in 2020. “He gets rid of the ball very quickly, doesn’t hold it much, sees coverage well, has taken good care of the ball, hasn’t thrown the ball to the defense. He understands the pressure, the timing of routes, gets the ball out quickly, and has enough quickness in the pocket to make it difficult for the pass rush to get to him. He can run a little bit, but I would say he’s more of a quicker guy in the pocket that’s elusive and really wants to throw more than he wants to run.” - Bill Belichick on Tua Tagovailoa in 2021. I just wanted to point out that Bill Belichick saying nice things about bad and mediocre quarterbacks is a pretty common occurrence. "this guy, he’s a problem.” -BB on josh allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 hour ago, teef said: i have an odd, unnecessary anger towards mac jones. it's not explainable, but it's there. in my defense, i had the same unexplainable anger towards jared from subway, and i was balls on accurate with that one. Completely understandable. He's a former Alabama Qb like TUA !!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Damn! This was our season, but Mac is now vastly improved. And that one Dolphin player said Tua's better now. Window's closed boys. Pack it up. We're done. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 I once had this really ugly dog but he was the best looking dog in the house 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 47-17. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Peterman looks great every pre season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 3 hours ago, 716er said: Can one please define whatever the hell "the cerebral thing" means? Is this relating to how Mac Jones sounds like he was dropped on his head as a baby & sounds like Spicoli from “Fast Times at Ridgemont High”? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 2 hours ago, teef said: i have an odd, unnecessary anger towards mac jones. it's not explainable, but it's there. in my defense, i had the same unexplainable anger towards jared from subway, and i was balls on accurate with that one. Probably not the best choice of words in this case... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninSarasota Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 from child model to noodle-armed QB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Charles Romes said: With the irrefutable evidence we now have that it was always all-Brady, Belichick is desperate to salvage some portion of his legacy. It was mostly Brady for sure. But Brady did not win them their first SuperBowl and didn't do much to win them their last. Both of those were defensive gems orchestrated by Belichick. Everything in-between was mostly TB12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Translating from Belichickese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 I'm sure our coaches said similar about Tyrod. And EJ. And Lossman. And Edwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Ethan in Portland said: It was mostly Brady for sure. But Brady did not win them their first SuperBowl and didn't do much to win them their last. Both of those were defensive gems orchestrated by Belichick. Everything in-between was mostly TB12 For their last, Belichick basically hung Brady out to dry, loading up on D, leaving Brady to make the offense work all by himself, as he had done for many years. Finally Brady got sick of not being given substantial weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 15 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said: That big fat head, is going to explode, one of these days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cheektowaga Chad Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 4 hours ago, Logic said: “He is accurate, makes good decisions and has a good feel for the position. He has been very efficient. Even last year when he stepped in he seemed to have a good presence on the field and good command of the offense.” - Bill Belichick on Trent Edwards in 2008. "I think he's got the ability to make all the throws. Can throw down the field, intermediate throws. Plenty of examples of him going through a read progression . . . I think he's shown the ability to do everything. The consistency has looked better in recent weeks. Don't think there's any shortage of talent there, playmaking ability. We saw him run . . . He's an athletic guy that has great size. Good arm. Hard to tackle in the pocket. " - Bill Belichick on Sam Darnold in 2020. “He gets rid of the ball very quickly, doesn’t hold it much, sees coverage well, has taken good care of the ball, hasn’t thrown the ball to the defense. He understands the pressure, the timing of routes, gets the ball out quickly, and has enough quickness in the pocket to make it difficult for the pass rush to get to him. He can run a little bit, but I would say he’s more of a quicker guy in the pocket that’s elusive and really wants to throw more than he wants to run.” - Bill Belichick on Tua Tagovailoa in 2021. I just wanted to point out that Bill Belichick saying nice things about bad and mediocre quarterbacks is a pretty common occurrence. Wgr used to play a game where they would play a clip from belichick and they would guess what quarterback he was talking about The best one was where he praised jeff tuel Ive come to the conclusion that the more descriptive belilchick is the lower he thinks about that player, almost like he is mocking them and he finds it funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted July 26, 2022 Author Share Posted July 26, 2022 17 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: Wgr used to play a game where they would play a clip from belichick and they would guess what quarterback he was talking about The best one was where he praised jeff tuel Ive come to the conclusion that the more descriptive belilchick is the lower he thinks about that player, almost like he is mocking them and he finds it funny That's more when he is talking about opponents. He's usually much more guarded about his own players, which is why his comments earlier were noteworthy (imo). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 4 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: That’s gotta go. How long after that did the Bills whoop them 27-3 at halftime!!!! 47-17 (pity points) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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