Jordan Palmer says Josh Allen is "the most talented player to ever play quarterback"

[Awwufelloff]

He is but I want a lot less running this year than the last few. The NFL takes no prisoners, one hit and his career could be over. Stay in the pocket and use your best asset, longevity is everything. 

[The Wiz]

Whether he is or isn't, I'm sure we can all agree it's great that the question is even being asked about our QB.

[McBean]

1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

The context of your astonishment is that nobody on TSW had less optimism than you about the Josh Allen draft selection.

 

You were REALLY upset about that pick.

 

I think we are all surprised.........not even the biggest Josh Allen fan saw him turning into a GREAT running QB in addition to his arm talent...........but the people who hated the choice to select Allen gotta' be questioning their reality.

So let’s bring something up from 4 years ago even tho I’ve admitted multiple times how much crow I’ve ate and it tastes so good?

 

Ive never been so happy to be wrong.

 

[wppete]

On 7/7/2022 at 7:40 PM, extrahammer said:

 

I will not debate this either way, I just love to hear it. 

I really believe this. If you were to construct a perfect QB it would be Josh. He just has to get out there and win it all and do it soon. 

[Doc]

13 minutes ago, wppete said:

I really believe this. If you were to construct a perfect QB it would be Josh. He just has to get out there and win it all and do it soon. 

 

He's the closest thing there is.  You could maybe want to add Olympic speed, but that's about it.  And he's trying.

[Doc]

50 minutes ago, McBean said:

So let’s bring something up from 4 years ago even tho I’ve admitted multiple times how much crow I’ve ate and it tastes so good?

 

Ive never been so happy to be wrong.

 

 

I did a quick search and to your credit, while you said you hated Josh as a prospect, you wanted to give him a chance.

[ColoradoBills]

I never like threads that resemble "my father can beat up your father" discussions but it's like this for me.

 

1.  Josh Allen is the best QB the Buffalo Bills have ever had.

2.  If I was starting a team TODAY and had the pick of any QB in the league I would go with Josh and not look back.

3.  No one knows what JA's ceiling is yet.

4.  I can't predict what JA can and will accomplish in the rest of his career, but I love that I'm along for the ride.

 

I still am amazed that we have Josh Allen as our Bills QB.  As for the topic of "best", "greatest", "most talented" or any other term,

I'll just wait until his career is over before I judge his status among the other QBs.

 

Edited July 9, 2022 by ColoradoBills
Added item #3.

[McBean]

2 hours ago, Doc said:

 

I did a quick search and to your credit, while you said you hated Josh as a prospect, you wanted to give him a chance.

I did say that but didn’t want to bring it up cuz I own not wanting him predraft.

 

My take was awful on him and I couldn’t be more happier to be wrong lol.

 

Hes my favorite Bill of all time just after 4 years. Hard not to love the kid.

[Doc]

2 minutes ago, McBean said:

I did say that but didn’t want to bring it up cuz I own not wanting him predraft.

 

My take was awful on him and I couldn’t be more happier to be wrong lol.

 

Hes my favorite Bill of all time just after 4 years. Hard not to love the kid.

 

I didn't want him either and made that known at the time.  But like you I was also willing to give him a chance.  I don't think there's anything wrong in saying you were wrong.  It's those who definitively said he would be a bust and those who left as a result...

[AuntieEm]

5 hours ago, Awwufelloff said:

He is but I want a lot less running this year than the last few. The NFL takes no prisoners, one hit and his career could be over. Stay in the pocket and use your best asset, longevity is everything. 

 

   Yes they should limit the designed runs, but the best thing is Josh has become one of the faces of the NFL and you can best believe that he won't be getting cheap spotted by other players either, Allen has earned alot of respect amongst players across the league so that helps.  I trust his instincts when to move the pocket or just to take off. 

[YoloinOhio]

Just leaving this here 

 

 

[Andy1]

I’m proud to say I was on the Allen train since the beginning. Outside of my family, watching Josh play gives me the most joy. I’m just glad I’m able to watch, and someday, when I’m old remember his performances on the field. What a joy. 

[Boatdrinks]

14 hours ago, Awwufelloff said:

He is but I want a lot less running this year than the last few. The NFL takes no prisoners, one hit and his career could be over. Stay in the pocket and use your best asset, longevity is everything. 

Maybe in the regular season, but in the playoffs you do whatever it takes. We saw this last year and I’d expect no different going forward. Winning the SuperBowl is everything.

[Rigby]

I will hold my hand up and say I was not 100 percent on board the Allen train when we picked him. Boy, how happy I am now to eat crow. He just makes the game look so easy and he seems like a great person off the field also. Very proud for a lot of reasons that he is a Bill.

[LeGOATski]

6 hours ago, Andy1 said:

I’m proud to say I was on the Allen train since the beginning. Outside of my family, watching Josh play gives me the most joy. I’m just glad I’m able to watch, and someday, when I’m old remember his performances on the field. What a joy. 

Every time someone posts one of these threads I check to see what I said and find nothing. All I know is that I was NOT on the Allen train. Maybe I took a break from the board for a while after the draft, Idk.

[NewEra]

3 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

Every time someone posts one of these threads I check to see what I said and find nothing. All I know is that I was NOT on the Allen train. Maybe I took a break from the board for a while after the draft, Idk.

Hahaha.  Same here.  I was mad at the time of the pick.  Considering our franchises past with developing QBs, i preferred to take the qb I thought was more Nfl ready as opposed to a project.   
 

I quickly came around to the thought of having the best arm I had ever seen be our next hope for success.  
 

McB + Josh’s hard work have changed our lives as Bills fans.  

[finn]

I think it's clear he's the most physically talented quarterback in league history. But he also has a powerful desire to improve and intense competitiveness. He deserves to be in the conversation with athletes like Tiger Woods and Michael Jordan, who were both super-talented AND worked harder than anyone else. 

[Big Turk]

Media members are starting to get in on the hype...

 

A TB reporter? lists Allen second only to Aaron Donald on his Top 100 players list.

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/StevenCheah/status/1546129313396924417

[eball]

On 7/10/2022 at 1:06 AM, Andy1 said:

I’m proud to say I was on the Allen train since the beginning. Outside of my family, watching Josh play gives me the most joy. I’m just glad I’m able to watch, and someday, when I’m old remember his performances on the field. What a joy. 

Ahh, good old C.Biscuit97.  

 

What ever happened to that tool?

 

[C.Biscuit97]

If he has one more good season, I may be ready to officially declare Allen as being the right choice over Rosen. A lot of insecure people won’t admit to be being wrong but I am that secure. Still needs one more year to prove it though. 😉

[4merper4mer]

On 7/8/2022 at 3:08 PM, Mr. WEO said:

 

Vick for 1.  Elway 

No Mac Jones?  At least not yet huh?

[eball]

1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

If he has one more good season, I may be ready to officially declare Allen as being the right choice over Rosen. A lot of insecure people won’t admit to be being wrong but I am that secure. Still needs one more year to prove it though. 😉

 

Well, speak of the devil.  I thought you were gone for good.

[The Frankish Reich]

On 7/7/2022 at 8:34 PM, Ethan in Portland said:

Has this board ever heard of John Elway? Same size, arm strength, and athletic ability.  Played in an era where it was much harder to be a passer.

 

Or Brett Favre? He wasn't as fast running but obviously had the toughness and the arm strength. 

 

Steve Young was an amazing passer and runner though his running was not as violent as JA's. 

 

Montana was also sneaky mobile early on. Obviously not the arm strength of JA though.

 

 

 

All true. I have no problem with Jordan Palmer saying “the most talented I’ve ever seen in my time watching football.”

But his time may only cover the tail end of Steve Young’s career, and he may only know of Bert Jones and Roman Gabriel as names on some old guy’s list of something or other. Watch some YouTubes of those guys!

My dad always did the same thing to me as I do to Palmer today, saying “if you’d seen Mickey Mantle when he first came up you wouldn’t be talking like that about Barry Bonds…”

[BUFFALOTONE]

On 7/7/2022 at 9:58 PM, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Who is Jordan Palmer ?

 

Did he ever play QB in the NFL ?

Who are the guys interviewing him is a better questions. Any clown with a microphone and a basement is a podcaster now. 

[Rico]

3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

If he has one more good season, I may be ready to officially declare Allen as being the right choice over Rosen. A lot of insecure people won’t admit to be being wrong but I am that secure. Still needs one more year to prove it though. 😉

Welcome back C.Biscuit97! 

Did you know EJ had better stats his rookie year than Josh Allen did?

[C.Biscuit97]

51 minutes ago, Rico said:

Welcome back C.Biscuit97! 

Did you know EJ had better stats his rookie year than Josh Allen did?

Thanks Rico! Still earlier to tell if Josh will officially pass EJ this season but it’s trending in that direction. Allen looks pretty decent though. 😁

 

after years of defending awful bills qbs, I can’t believe the guy who couldn’t make 1st or 2nd team all conference at Wyoming is finally the man. We deserve this and it doesn’t seem real. I love Allen, Beane, and Sean. 

3 hours ago, eball said:

 

Well, speak of the devil.  I thought you were gone for good.

Life got crazy and honestly, the Bills are so good, I have nothing to complain about. It’s kinda boring rooting for an awesome team again. 😎

[The Dean]

3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

 

Life got crazy and honestly, the Bills are so good, I have nothing to complain about. It’s kinda boring rooting for an awesome team again. 😎

 

 

For many that explains their posting behavior, IMO. They post more when they can be negative.  So much so, some just make up negative stuff, created mostly from their imagination. 

[C.Biscuit97]

Just now, The Dean said:

 

 

For many that explains their posting behavior, IMO. They post more when they can be negative.  So much so, some just make up negative stuff, created mostly from their imagination. 

It’s true. Even during the Chiefs loss, which too late whole to get over, I was so proud of this team and how much fun this ride has been. 

[Rico]

41 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Thanks Rico! Still earlier to tell if Josh will officially pass EJ this season but it’s trending in that direction. Allen looks pretty decent though. 😁

 

after years of defending awful bills qbs, I can’t believe the guy who couldn’t make 1st or 2nd team all conference at Wyoming is finally the man. We deserve this and it doesn’t seem real. I love Allen, Beane, and Sean. 

Life got crazy and honestly, the Bills are so good, I have nothing to complain about. It’s kinda boring rooting for an awesome team again. 😎

Yeah, it’s more fun in here when they suck, but not nearly as much fun as rooting for an awesome team away from here.

[NewEra]

2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Thanks Rico! Still earlier to tell if Josh will officially pass EJ this season but it’s trending in that direction. Allen looks pretty decent though. 😁

 

after years of defending awful bills qbs, I can’t believe the guy who couldn’t make 1st or 2nd team all conference at Wyoming is finally the man. We deserve this and it doesn’t seem real. I love Allen, Beane, and Sean. 

Life got crazy and honestly, the Bills are so good, I have nothing to complain about. It’s kinda boring rooting for an awesome team again. 😎

Welcome back!  
 

No go away again!!

 

just kidding. I hope life’s crazy twists and turns have you in a happy spot.  
 

 

[97bills]

On 7/7/2022 at 8:06 PM, Dan Darragh said:

What about JaMarcus Russell?

Lol THE RAIDERS 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

On 7/11/2022 at 9:05 AM, 4merper4mer said:

No Mac Jones?  At least not yet huh?

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/mac-jones-not-included-espns-163458122.html
 

Mac Jones not included in ESPN's new 2022 ranking of NFL's top quarterbacks
 

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Mac Jones had a tremendous rookie season for the New England Patriots in 2021, but he still doesn't rank among the NFL's top 10 or top 15 quarterbacks in many of the latest offseason rankings and lists.

 

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That includes ESPN's new ranking of the top 10 quarterbacks entering the 2022 campaign. ESPN "surveyed 50 league executives, coaches, scouts and players" to compile its list of the best QBs.

 

[BringBackFergy]

https://sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/kid-intercepts-josh-allen-pass-125515784.html

[Nextmanup]

 

[Captain Hindsight]

23 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/mac-jones-not-included-espns-163458122.html
 

Mac Jones not included in ESPN's new 2022 ranking of NFL's top quarterbacks
 

 

 

Why would he be?

[Einstein]

Odd thread merging. The 2 threads could not be more dissimilar.

[Warcodered]

22 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

 

Bad angle on that video, a different one shows him throwing it to a couple of kids and it's either too short or the kid should have come up for it. Ball bounces either off the first kids hands or the ground and the second kid intercepts the deflection from the old guy.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

1 hour ago, Captain Hindsight said:

Why would he be?

😆 
I guess you missed the Mac is Great conversions 

 

Shady loves Sarcasm 

 

Obvs he shouldn’t be.  

[KingBoots8]

Josh Allen is like Jack Reacher- it’s seems unfair that he is somehow the biggest, baddest, and smartest man in the room/on the field, but he is and that’s the way it goes. Anything another QB can do, Josh can do better

[Shaw66]

On 7/9/2022 at 11:06 AM, Awwufelloff said:

He is but I want a lot less running this year than the last few. The NFL takes no prisoners, one hit and his career could be over. Stay in the pocket and use your best asset, longevity is everything. 

James Cook will be the answer to that.  The Bills' rushing attack is going to look a lot different this year.   Cook is going to spread the defense, and everyone - oline, Josh, and Singletary will benefit.