Tua impressing in Miami

[Dr. K]

I do get the feeling that a lot of Bills fans are getting smug about the Bills vs. the Dolphins (and the rest of the league). It's frankly a drag to hear Bills fans sounding like the most arrogant of Patriots fans in the Brady era. 

 

Fortunately, I don't think McDermott is buying into the idea that the Bills will walk through the season. 

[Success]

16 minutes ago, Dr. K said:

I do get the feeling that a lot of Bills fans are getting smug about the Bills vs. the Dolphins (and the rest of the league). It's frankly a drag to hear Bills fans sounding like the most arrogant of Patriots fans in the Brady era. 

 

Fortunately, I don't think McDermott is buying into the idea that the Bills will walk through the season. 

 

After last season?  Not a chance. This team will be ready for every game.

 

We are getting cocky as a fanbase, but it's more fun than being morose.

 

[pigpen65]

Oh man, this brings me back. Every ***** Bills QB between Flutie and Allen would get these same offseason articles every single year.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

4 hours ago, Warcodered said:

So, this basically says he knew absolutely nothing about Tua before joining the team then, like accuracy was the one thing he was positively known for.

that is exactly right. He probably saw the money and the location of the city, and was like, “okay, trade me there.”

 

it kind of reminds me of when we almost signed McKissick and he kept referring to us as the “buffalos.”  Some of these NFL players don’t seem to really football

at all. 

[Punching Bag]

3 hours ago, Starr Almighty said:

Now that his stomach is gone, where will his food go when he eats? 

 

It isn't gone.  He got a band like Rex and his brother and like Rex will probably have it loosened due to lack of commitment. 

[Nuncha]

Nate Peterman looked decent before the real games started too.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

The whole tuas accuracy being bad thing is overblown imo…the real issue is he is super slow with his reads.  The right side of their oline is still real bad I think he’s still gonna have a tough time. 
 

Edited May 25, 2022 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[billsfan89]

Tua doesn’t scare me at all. He gives me Tyrod Taylor vibes (less of a runner than Tyrod but a bit better of a passer) in the sense that he can play smart and not turn the ball over but not win you many games against better than average competition. 

[quinnearlysghost88]

https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2018/08/27/the-bills-have-their-starting-quarterback-and-hes-already-on-the-roster/

[Nextmanup]

33 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

Tua doesn’t scare me at all. He gives me Tyrod Taylor vibes (less of a runner than Tyrod but a bit better of a passer) in the sense that he can play smart and not turn the ball over but not win you many games against better than average competition. 

Yes, that's exactly what he is.  They used to call these guys "game managers" though everyone seems to have different ideas of what that term means.

 

He's not that good and Miami will move on from him as their starting QB soon enough.

 

 

[stuvian]

On 5/24/2022 at 8:39 PM, Warcodered said:

 

He also said Tua has a pretty mouth 

[Paul Costa]

4 hours ago, Rico said:

Today, Chris Simms rated Tua as the 29th best QB, that’s nothing to sneeze at.

 

https://dolphinswire.usatoday.com/2022/05/25/tua-tagovailoa-chris-simms-qb-rankings/

Behind Mitch T at #27 and Mariota at #28 though.  

That’s top 30!! Not too shabby 😏

[The Wiz]

Had to quote this one from a FB comment.  Too good not to.

 

regarding Tua's "crazy arm strength"

Quote

His arm strength probably won't impede his ability to be a successful franchise qb but his strengths lie in other areas such as ball placement, quick release, processing speed, and ability to move defenders and throw receivers open. What his strengths and weaknesses add up to at the NFL level is something we'll find out in a few months. He is nobody's idea of a prototype qb but that doesn't necessarily doom him to failure.

 

 

also this:

 

Edited May 26, 2022 by The Wiz

[Thurman#1]

19 hours ago, No_Matter_What said:

The funniest thing about this is that it is not even a hype. If that is the best thing what both the coach and Hill can say about Tua, then they are actually saying that he sucks. 

 

 

They're really not.

 

This is the season of rose-colored glasses. Everybody looks great in shorts running routes with no D-backs. Everything out of every camp is positive.

 

But you have to strain pretty hard to take a positive and say, "See, that's a negative if you just look at it right."

[bigK14094]

Miami will have a decent squad.  the Bills will have to  work to sweep this year, but, I still expect that will be the result.

[HappyDays]

5 hours ago, Dr. K said:

I do get the feeling that a lot of Bills fans are getting smug about the Bills vs. the Dolphins (and the rest of the league)

 

Of course I'm smug about the Dolphins. They passed on a top 5 QB to draft an injury riddled backup and we've blown them out for 3 straight seasons. I'll enjoy every bit of their mediocrity. I'm worried about the Chargers and the Chiefs et al. The Dolphins are a speed bump en route to games that matter.

[Starr Almighty]

7 hours ago, Dr. K said:

I do get the feeling that a lot of Bills fans are getting smug about the Bills vs. the Dolphins (and the rest of the league). It's frankly a drag to hear Bills fans sounding like the most arrogant of Patriots fans in the Brady era. 

 

Fortunately, I don't think McDermott is buying into the idea that the Bills will walk through the season. 

I hate the Dolphins so every time we can beat them or better yet destroy them on the field it's great in my book. Bills are 14-4 in the last 18 vs Miami I'd love it if they could make it even more one sided 

[buffalo2218]

9 hours ago, Dr. K said:

I do get the feeling that a lot of Bills fans are getting smug about the Bills vs. the Dolphins (and the rest of the league). It's frankly a drag to hear Bills fans sounding like the most arrogant of Patriots fans in the Brady era. 

 

Fortunately, I don't think McDermott is buying into the idea that the Bills will walk through the season. 

It's not just McDermott, I doubt Allen will be taking anything for granted himself.  I wouldn't exactly say Bills fans are arrogant toward the Dolphin fans as Pats fans were to us. Dolphin fans have really been throwing their chest out since they signed Hill. 2 things they're not looking at, Tua is NOT Mahomes and McDaniel is still a rookie HC. How good do you think this Bills team today would be if Jauron still ran the show? Gregg Williams had a Bills team full of talent and couldn't do a thing with it. Yes, our games with the Dolphins may be more competitive, but we have the edge in too many areas, namely QB and coaching. And god help every team if Kromer helps us develop a good enough run game. Josh Allen with a more lethal play action is scary to think about for opposing teams

Edited May 26, 2022 by buffalo2218

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

I think Tua can be an average to good QB in the NFL.

 

He'll never be able to carry a team on his back like Josh, but he could be a good system QB.

 

As far as arm strength, Mike McDaniel will install the Kyle Shanahan WC style offense which is alot of short precision timing passes that demand accuracy which he will be good at.

 

Tua will get rid of the ball fast and take deep shots only occasionally.

 

Tua's biggest jeopardy in his career is that he's injury prone and seems to be made of glass.

 

He has a long injury history in both college and the pros.

 

Even normal sacks injure him causing him to miss 4-5 games several times a season.

 

I predict he misses at least 6 games this season due to injury.

[Dr. K]

17 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

I think Tua can be an average to good QB in the NFL.

 

He'll never be able to carry a team on his back like Josh, but he could be a good system QB.

 

As far as arm strength, Mike McDaniel will install the Kyle Shanahan WC style offense which is alot of short precision timing passes that demand accuracy which he will be good at.

 

Tua will get rid of the ball fast and take deep shots only occasionally.

 

Tua's biggest jeopardy in his career is that he's injury prone and seems to be made of glass.

 

He has a long injury history in both college and the pros.

 

Even normal sacks injure him causing him to miss 4-5 games several times a season.

 

I predict he misses at least 6 games this season due to injury.

Like Chris Chandler back in the day, nicknamed "Crystal Chandelier."

[NakedSquid]

Reminds me of when there was all that hype about Captain Check down getting TO 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Lookin good 

 

and yet there were rumors of a Brady trade to MIA.  

[The Red King]

Peterman looked good in preseason too.  Just sayin'.

[Jauronimo]

OP is a troll.

[hondo in seattle]

On 5/25/2022 at 7:27 AM, Greg S said:

 

What is this, year 3 for him? I remember Romo did a video conference with Allen, Darnold, and Jones a few years ago and he said if a QB hasn't shown it by year 3 then he most likely never will. By year 3 a QB should have things figured out as far as reading defenses and running the offense. He also mentioned that by year 3 the speed of the game shouldn't overwhelm them anymore. Going thru your reads/progressions at the NFL level is a lot faster than in college and for many QB's their is an adjustment period. Bottom line he said if your QB is truly a franchise QB you will know it by year 3.

 

Romo's comment is correct most of the time.  But every QB has different circumstance (coach, supporting cast, etc) and different learning curves.  

 

Drew Brews, for example, didn't truly blossom until his 6th year.  Alex Smith was pretty unimpressive in his 8 years in SF but then became pretty good in Kansas City.

 

Tua has only played 2 seasons so far.  I'm not sure he's reached his ceiling yet.  Even by the Romo Rule - this is the 3rd year and the year that Tua should show he has it.  

 

 

[Greg S]

8 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

Romo's comment is correct most of the time.  But every QB has different circumstance (coach, supporting cast, etc) and different learning curves.  

 

Drew Brews, for example, didn't truly blossom until his 6th year.  Alex Smith was pretty unimpressive in his 8 years in SF but then became pretty good in Kansas City.

 

Tua has only played 2 seasons so far.  I'm not sure he's reached his ceiling yet.  Even by the Romo Rule - this is the 3rd year and the year that Tua should show he has it.  

 

 

 

True as every situation is different. In the AFCE however I just don't see Tua and Jones as QB's who will make it. Neither can make all the throws that's needed at the NFL level. Wilson can make those throws. I think he will end up being the 2nd best QB in this division.

[NoHuddleKelly12]

Yes Miami, by all means please continue to buy into your own hype machine!! No need to ACTUALLY watch Tua throw in a real game . 

[Nextmanup]

17 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Yes Miami, by all means please continue to buy into your own hype machine!! No need to ACTUALLY watch Tua throw in a real game . 

 

 

Sun Tzu:  "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."

 

 

[DQW87]

We hope he can continue this style play when theres a defense on the field!

[Fan in Chicago]

2 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

 

Tua has only played 2 seasons so far.  I'm not sure he's reached his ceiling yet.  Even by the Romo Rule - this is the 3rd year and the year that Tua should show he has it.  

 

 

 

Yes, I really hope Miami gives him another 4 years and see if he blossoms. Meanwhile, we will continue to kick their collective rears in an effort to notch up the largest average points of victory over a 6 year period. 😁

[FilthyBeast]

7 hours ago, Greg S said:

 

True as every situation is different. In the AFCE however I just don't see Tua and Jones as QB's who will make it. Neither can make all the throws that's needed at the NFL level. Wilson can make those throws. I think he will end up being the 2nd best QB in this division.

 

I would honestly be surprised if neither Tua or Jones amount to much in this league.

 

I get the Tua criticism given how his first few years have panned out and all the other outside noise around him (i.e. trying to trade for Watson last year) but still think he's already shown he's good enough to be a 'low end' type of franchise QB so to speak given his precision accuracy.

 

Jones is the guy I'd watch more closely this year given how impressive his rookie season was and there are already rumblings about him being a dark horse MVP candidate this year with similar hype in NE right now about his offseason so far. Just not as impressed with the Pats offseason on the surface compared to Miami (and NYJ for that matter).

[Punching Bag]

13 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

Jones is the guy I'd watch more closely this year given how impressive his rookie season was and there are already rumblings about him being a dark horse MVP candidate this year with similar hype in NE right now about his offseason so far. Just not as impressed with the Pats offseason on the surface compared to Miami (and NYJ for that matter).J

 

 

Edited May 28, 2022 by Limeaid

[Big Blitz]

On 5/24/2022 at 6:22 PM, FilthyBeast said:

Lot of hype coming out of Miami these days....if Tua does in fact take off this year like JA17 did in year 3 the dolphins are going to be a big problem.

 

 

 

 

 

"We know Watson is never coming here so......"Go Tua!!"

[Richard Noggin]

11 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

 

 

Sun Tzu:  "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."

 

 

Sometimes it is best to simply sit back

and watch as the bodies of your enemies float past

[Sharky7337]

And then there's this:

 

 

Popcorn please while I watch the meltdown

[Buffalo Barbarian]

Its not physically possible for him to be like Josh and therefore he will never take off like Josh. Will he get better? Maybe but not worried about him

 

 

[Punching Bag]

3 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

Its not physically possible for him to be like Josh and therefore he will never take off like Josh. Will he get better? Maybe but not worried about him

 

He will never be as good as John Skelton was!  He could probably beat out Tua if he was willing to give up politics.

[GunnerBill]

5 hours ago, Sharky7337 said:

And then there's this:

 

 

Popcorn please while I watch the meltdown

 

I mean it is not true, but sure. The only ones of those where I'd even give Kap a squeak in an open competition are Carolina and Seattle and he wouldn't be the favourite in either place IMO. 

[Punching Bag]

8 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

"We know Watson is never coming here so......"Go Tua!!"

 

I am sure Watson is going there,  He got a reference from New England owner.

 

Edited May 28, 2022 by Limeaid

[Sharky7337]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I mean it is not true, but sure. The only ones of those where I'd even give Kap a squeak in an open competition are Carolina and Seattle and he wouldn't be the favourite in either place IMO. 

Ya I agree but doesn't make it any less entertaining