Tannehill melting down?

[Fan in Chicago]

1 hour ago, Iiiiiiiiive Got a Feeeelin said:

Dont think ive ever heard this incredibly apt nickname before. nice work 

 

It was a term coined on this board during the Edwards years. Yea, it was an apt play on his first name

[mjt328]

The Titans have a lot more to worry about than Ryan Tannehill's comments.

 

Last year, they managed to nab the top seed in the AFC and still managed to lose in the Divisional Playoffs.  They pretty much peaked, and still couldn't win a playoff game.  Things aren't going to get any easier moving forward, in their division or in the conference.

 

Derrick Henry just reached the dreaded Age 28 milestone, which has historically proven to be the place where Running Back production starts falling off.  That's not even considering his usage (which is way higher than average) or that he's coming off a foot injury.

 

The offense is also pretty much starting over at Wide Receiver, trading A.J. Brown and not re-signing Julio Jones.  They were replaced with Robert Woods (also coming off a major injury) and a rookie.  Even if you like Treylon Burks, it's unlikely he immediately replaces Brown's production.

 

Overall, their draft and free agent class were pretty underwhelming.  

Don't be surprised if the Titans manage to miss the playoffs in 2022, considering all the competition.

 

[H2o]

1 hour ago, BritBill said:

I just don't like his face.

[Albany,n.y.]

1 hour ago, BritBill said:

I just don't like his face.

Well his hot wife does and that's probably the real reason he isn't getting much sleep. 

[DrDawkinstein]

1 hour ago, klos63 said:

Sure Kurt, he's not trying to win your job from you. Easy to say when you don't have to back it up.

Shouldn't the coaches be the ones teaching Malik how to be an NFL QB? I get so tired of the 'mentor' schtick.  It's possible to be a good teammate and not need to be a mentor. Tannehill has enough on his plate as the starting QB.

 

I mean, Kurt literally mentored Eli in NY, which got him another gig with the Cardinals where he mentored Leinhart. So you can't discount what he's saying with "he's not trying to win your job". They have, and he still did.

[bigK14094]

1 hour ago, benderbender said:

Why not? Farve, Rothlisberger, Rodgers, Flacco all have been vocal about not having the responsibility to mentor, and all proceeded to get extensions. 

 

He is the Chad Pennington of a new generation. 

Nahhh, Pennington had a real noodle arm.  Tannehill can throw the ball.

[Billl]

I’m curious how many people burying RT over this would be cool with it if their employer brought in some new employee and said “we’re paying this guy a fraction of what you make, and we need you to train him so that we can fire you and give him your job”.

[BuffaloBillsGospel]

This is more media bs imo. Roethlisberger said the same about Mason Rudolph, Favre to Rodgers, Rodgers to Love and I'm sure many before that.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 hour ago, TBBills said:

I don't see a melt down... but you people will say anything for a click

 

Meltdown?  MELTDOWN?!

THIS is a meltdown.

😇😁

[Buffalo716]

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Tannehill is right. It isn't his job to mentor Malik. But if he wants to prolong his NFL career he would do it. Because after next season when his run on TEN is at an end if he wants to continue as an NFL starter his best bet is as a bridge for a team looking to draft and develop a young QB. You can make good money as a bridge. Look at Tyrod, Teddy et al. But if he gets a reputation as a guy who makes trouble when a rookie is put into the room it will hurt his chances of getting signed for that kind of role. 

I've told people repeatably for years that starting pro QBs don't mentor the guy coming to replace him 

 

Sure there ARE some bridge QBs and fringe guys who will take a QB under their wing... But usually not a top 15-20 guy 

 

He's not going to give you all his secrets and tricks to the trade... That will just have him replace you sooner 

 

You can be a respectable teammate without mentoring a guy trying to take your job 

 

You can and will be wally pipped in the NFL if you don't perform... You never know when that will happen either so most aren't kicking down doors to mentor the guy coming for his Job

 

 

 

 

Edited May 4, 2022 by Buffalo716

[LeGOATski]

Kurt Warner's a self-righteous #######.

[Fan in Chicago]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

I've told people repeatably for years that starting pro QBs don't mentor the guy coming to replace him 

 

Sure there ARE some bridge QBs and fringe guys who will take a QB under their wing... But not a top 15-20 guy 

 

He's not going to give you all his secrets and tricks to the trade... That will just have him replace you sooner 

 

You can be a respectable teammate without mentoring a guy trying to take your job 

 

 

 

 

Tannehill has proven to be a competent , if not spectacular , QB. He should feel self assured that there will always be teams looking for his (moderate) skills every year. 

He should be a good team mate or pretend to be one, as part of an audition for the next job. 

[ddaryl]

2 hours ago, Iiiiiiiiive Got a Feeeelin said:

Dont think ive ever heard this incredibly apt nickname before. nice work 

 

Captain Check down was another. 

[BillsFan4]

It seemed like an unnecessary statement to say he won’t mentor Willis. But he’s far from the first QB to say it.

 

Quote

“I was shocked. When I first found out, I'm like, 'This isn't real, this isn't happening, it's a rumor,'" Tannehill said of the Brown trade. "And then, I talked to A.J. and found out it was real. I slept terrible that night and kept thinking it was just a bad dream, but that's where we're at."

 

I think it’s telling that the team didn’t even give Tannehill a heads up on the AJ Brown trade.

[GunnerBill]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

I've told people repeatably for years that starting pro QBs don't mentor the guy coming to replace him 

 

Sure there ARE some bridge QBs and fringe guys who will take a QB under their wing... But usually not a top 15-20 guy 

 

He's not going to give you all his secrets and tricks to the trade... That will just have him replace you sooner 

 

You can be a respectable teammate without mentoring a guy trying to take your job 

 

You can and will be wally pipped in the NFL if you don't perform... You never know when that will happen either so most aren't kicking down doors to mentor the guy coming for his Job

 

 

I completely agree with that, but if Tannehill were smart he'd recognise where he is now in his career. Handle this situation well and he will get other starting gigs even if TEN moves on after this year. Handle it badly and he restricts his market because he would only then be attractive to teams who think they are going to ride with him for 2 or 3 seasons, and I struggle to think of teams fitting that description. 

[Buffalo716]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I completely agree with that, but if Tannehill were smart he'd recognise where he is now in his career. Handle this situation well and he will get other starting gigs even if TEN moves on after this year. Handle it badly and he restricts his market because he would only then be attractive to teams who think they are going to ride with him for 2 or 3 seasons, and I struggle to think of teams fitting that description. 

Absolutely

 

He's at a crossroads

[mannc]

21 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

Tannehill has proven to be a competent , if not spectacular , QB. He should feel self assured that there will always be teams looking for his (moderate) skills every year. 

He should be a good team mate or pretend to be one, as part of an audition for the next job. 

He also needs to understand that any competent GM with Ryan Tannehill as his QB will always be looking to upgrade the position.

[SirAndrew]

3 hours ago, The Red King said:

 

I'm not concerned for us.  His statements just have me wondering if he's gonna start forcing things, trying too hard.  And we all know how well hero-ball works out.

Fair, I guess I was referencing that I wouldn’t be concerned if I were a Titans fan. I don’t think that loss is going to be catastrophic for Tannehill. I expect to see the same player. If people view his comments as a sign of mental weakness, it’s the same Tannehill who’s been in the league for a decade. I’d be more concerned if this were an elite QB who said these things. I think this is a preexisting part of Tannehill’s personality’s. He’s probably always been an emotional player. Obviously just my two cents, I don’t know the guy. 

[TOboy]

2 hours ago, benderbender said:

Why not? Farve, Rothlisberger, Rodgers, Flacco all have been vocal about not having the responsibility to mentor, and all proceeded to get extensions. 

 

He is the Chad Pennington of a new generation. 

They all won a SB

 

 

Ultimately, he’s fine to think that, but it’s not smart to say it. 

[4merper4mer]

2 hours ago, mushypeaches said:

Titans are a 6 win team next year - they're ready to implode

Do they still play in the AFC South?  

[MrEpsYtown]

Ryan Tannehill, next QB of the WTF? 

[DrDawkinstein]

51 minutes ago, Billl said:

I’m curious how many people burying RT over this would be cool with it if their employer brought in some new employee and said “we’re paying this guy a fraction of what you make, and we need you to train him so that we can fire you and give him your job”.

 

None of our jobs are in any way comparable to playing a professional sport/playing in the NFL. Bad analogy.

 

But to play along with your analogy. If I were a couple years away from retirement, and already made almost $200M, I'd be totally fine with it.

 

 

Edited May 4, 2022 by DrDawkinstein

[AuntieEm]

3 hours ago, Big Turk said:

He sounds like a punk...mad because he knows deep down he isn't good enough just like the Titans think.

 

   A big reason guys like Tannehill don't pan out is this very trait of being afraid of competition to your starting qb position.  If you are afraid a young gun may outplay you then its pretty clear that they probably can. 

 

    I just can't imagine Josh ever not coaching up a young qb even when the time comes that he is outplayed.  Josh will pass on the starter job gracefully but it is much easier to accept after the first ballot HoF career he will have posted first.  Likely he'll just announce his retirement at the end of his last megadeal.  He probably had input on the rookie they drafted 2 yrs  prior that they had been grooming to take over.  

 

 

 

[Utah John]

Tannehill has always seemed like a slightly above average QB, good enough to keep the team winning most of its games but not a championship.

 

But now I look at the AFC -- 16 teams, and it's easy to find at least 10 QBs better than Tannehill.  (Allen, Mahomes, Watson, Russell Wilson, Burrow, Herbert, Jackson, Carr, Jones, Ryan) and at least two young QBs who are probably going to outplay Tannehill this year (Lawrence and Tagovailoa, possibly also Zach Wilson).  Tannehill is no longer above average.  In fact he's probably in the bottom quartile, along with Mills.  And who knows what Trubisky will do in Pittsburgh -- he could turn his career around like Tannehill did in Tennessee.  Tannehill could challenge for designation as the worst QB in the AFC.  

 

The Titans still have Henry, and a run-based offense will be regular-season effective in a league with pass-based defenses.  They could make it into the playoffs, but Tannehill is just not good enough to win three or four post-season games against the top competition.  

 

 

[GoBills808]

He's not wrong

[Gugny]

14 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

He's not wrong

 

Whether he's right or wrong, it wasn't the best idea to say it out loud.  It also wasn't a good idea to say how he felt about the Brown trade out loud.  If self-preservation is one of his goals (which it should be), now is the time to "play the game," and play it safe with what comes out of his mouth.

[GoBills808]

1 minute ago, Gugny said:

 

Whether he's right or wrong, it wasn't the best idea to say it out loud.  It also wasn't a good idea to say how he felt about the Brown trade out loud.  If self-preservation is one of his goals (which it should be), now is the time to "play the game," and play it safe with what comes out of his mouth.

I think it's refreshing, personally. Folks are always talking about how press conferences are just soundbites anymore. This is how he actually feels. It wasn't disrespectful or combative.

[Gugny]

Just now, GoBills808 said:

I think it's refreshing, personally. Folks are always talking about how press conferences are just soundbites anymore. This is how he actually feels. It wasn't disrespectful or combative.

 

I get it and yeah ... it's nice to see/hear someone speak what's really on his mind.  But my point (which supports what GunnerBill said upstream) is that at this juncture in his career, it might not be the best idea.

 

While what he said was not disrespectful or combative, it wasn't exactly screaming, "I'm a team player and winning games is the goal."  In two sentences, he just alienated the Titans' new WR and QB.

[FilthyBeast]

It seems a lot of folks are making a big deal about Tannenhill's comments when what he said is no different than many other players have said in similar situations.

 

Also I don't agree he sucks, he's definitely turned his career around with the Titans and I would certainly consider him in the '2nd tier' of NFL starters behind the truly elite franchise guys like Brady/Mahomes/Rogers/etc.

 

And he must be doing something right against the Bills since we have not beat the Titans since he's been the starter there.

 

With that said, obviously he knows he needs to perform at a high level this year to keep his job especially if Willis shows something in camp/practice.

[GoBills808]

2 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

I get it and yeah ... it's nice to see/hear someone speak what's really on his mind.  But my point (which supports what GunnerBill said upstream) is that at this juncture in his career, it might not be the best idea.

 

While what he said was not disrespectful or combative, it wasn't exactly screaming, "I'm a team player and winning games is the goal."  In two sentences, he just alienated the Titans' new WR and QB.

I don't believe he alienated anyone. He's the starting QB. The rookies will get on his page, not the other way round.

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

4 hours ago, The Red King said:

If I were a Titans fan this would concern me a little.  Yes, losing sucks.  Josh had it worse and handled it better.  And Tannie seems real bitter about the Titans nabbing another QB, adding it's not his job to train him?  Not sure his head's gonna be in the game this season.

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33849881/tennessee-titans-qb-ryan-tannehill-sought-therapy-playoff-loss-says-not-job-mentor-malik-willis?platform=amp

Are you suggesting that going to therapy means he didn't handle it well?

[Gugny]

1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:

I don't believe he alienated anyone. He's the starting QB. The rookies will get on his page, not the other way round.

 

I can't imagine that when the new WR read that trading AJ Brown was like a bad dream that it made him feel great.  Same with the QB after the "I'm not here to mentor him," comment.

 

I agree with you that it's up to the rookies to get on the same page and I'm sure they'll end up getting along just fine.

 

I'm just saying that it was unnecessary and for a QB whose end is in sight, he should be marketing himself for his next opportunity.

 

[BigAl2526]

I remember another veteran QB who was vocal about not mentoring the rookie the team brought in.  The veteran was Brett Favre, the rookie was Aaron Rodgers.

[teef]

8 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Are you suggesting that going to therapy means he didn't handle it well?

bro...you gonna take that bull####?

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

I wouldn't have Tannehill mentoring anyone.

 

He would probably screw Malik up !

[KDIGGZ]

Tannehill is lucky to have made it this far and he should be grateful and willing to do whatever the team asks of him. He was a bust of a QB, got a 2nd chance with a team that was like we know you can't throw so we will just run the ball and maybe you can complete some play action off of that, and now being "just a guy" on a good team he was able to parlay that into a big contract. Now he has $100+ million and he and his kids' kids' kids' kids will never have to work a day in their lives. What's the difference if he loses his starting job this year or next year or 5 years from now? He's not very good but now he's very rich so who cares? If he was smart he would be the best mentor on the planet and maybe he can hang around as a backup for a while and keep raking in the $

[Nextmanup]

4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Tannehill is right. It isn't his job to mentor Malik. But if he wants to prolong his NFL career he would do it. Because after next season when his run on TEN is at an end if he wants to continue as an NFL starter his best bet is as a bridge for a team looking to draft and develop a young QB. You can make good money as a bridge. Look at Tyrod, Teddy et al. But if he gets a reputation as a guy who makes trouble when a rookie is put into the room it will hurt his chances of getting signed for that kind of role. 

You would think he would have a better attitude when he ponders the 10s of millions he might be leaving on the table by not being the agreeable, good teammate kind of guy.

 

He still has an entire chapter of his career left, post starter status--as you point out!

 

 

[Beast]

Starting QB's in the NFL have more worries than mentoring the next QB in line.

Edited May 4, 2022 by Beast

[EasternOHBillsFan]

5 hours ago, GolfandBills said:

Probably should be… beat us the last two games 

 

Their DEFENSE beat us the last two games.

[bobobonators]

Im confused. Is Ryan paying the Titans for his services or are the Titans paying Ryan? If the Titans deem those services to include mentoring then ye shall mentor and stfu.