Warcodered Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, nucci said: and we still have a 7th round pick We still have the higher 7th round pick, Browns are great negotiators. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: I’m thinking Keenum would be #2, but if a team going into a playoff situation needed a QB and was willing to shell out a 1/2/3 Beane may jump at the opportunity knowing Barkley was still there Nobody would ever offer that much for Keenum on the final year of his contract. He went for a 7th. The NFL isn't like the movie Draft Day. To put this in perspective, if someone had offered Cleveland a 6th, they wouldn't have sent him to the Bills for a 7th. Same story like last year when some were saying trade Mitch for a #1 if offered-Nobody offered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 53 minutes ago, nucci said: ok but I think Barkley is a bit overrated on here How can a guy most likely to end up on the practice squad be overrated? All it means is that the Bills prefer a veteran practice squad QB over a rookie.  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 5 hours ago, Turbo44 said: Beane will probably do something like this;  extend the contract a year, adding a salary of say $4m to 2023 and converting $5m of the $6m 2022 salary into a signing bonus. The cap would then be: 2022: $3.5m 2023: $6.5m  lowers the cap hit and gives you a solid backup for two years not just one  Likely his agent will want an incentive for number of games he starts in as well as a roster bonus due just before free agency. This way if Bills are tempted to cut him next season he has a chance to get on a roster. Josh does not get knocked out very often but if he is starting a number of games he is worth it otherwise Bills would have signed a lower priced player.  Bills will likely counter with lower salaries since they will be on hook for more this year for one year rental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, nucci said: I understand that but Josh seems ok this is such an overused statement. Players switch teams all the time...coaches watch film of other teams...there are scouts who watch other teams play all season. I don't think signing Bates is going to give Patriots a better chance to beat us I doubt they would just sign him for information,  there was to be some interest in his talent there 1 hour ago, JGMcD2 said: So Keenum is a cap hit of $3.5M for Buffalo?  A better QB than Bridgewater with a smaller cap hit. A MUCH better QB than Kyle Allen with a slightly larger cap hit.  And all it cost us was a pick that would’ve never made the roster… nice. Is that now confirmed  (3.5m) cap hit?  if yes then it's very reasonable amount for a backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, SCBills said: I don’t want to spend on Barkley, but if he’s willing to come back for a min deal as QB3, that’s a no-brainer given what he brings off the field and in the QB room. I agree ,  offer limited guarantee contract and then maybe draft QB in late rounds or sign undrafted free agent QB to compete with Barkley for 3 string job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 1 hour ago, nucci said: and we still have a 7th round pick It's now very manageable at 3.5 mllion, Â i am much happier hearing of lower number. Â Now we just need to sign a starting level corner and this free agency period would be a complete success for Beane. Â Â Like everything I am seeing and CB just adds a cherry on top 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) Still blows my my when I hear "veteran Case Keenum"...damn I'm getting old. Edited March 20, 2022 by RaoulDuke79 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 This signing looks like it’s vintage Beane..  Got the Browns to pay his $1m bonus for the cost of a 7th and at $3.5m Keenan is good value ..assume he might be chasing a ring also..  Hopefully he won’t see the field in meaningful action just like Mitch ..apart from Week 18 when they have clinched home field… but if Josh misses a couple of games Case might  be a chance of getting us a win…  Well done Beane.,, 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Browns shoulve made it a two for one deal and unload Baker at the same time, however, a 7th rounder is much too high for him. Â Bravo Beane......bravo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 4 hours ago, Nextmanup said: Pray to the sweet baby Jesus that nothing happens to Josh!  Case Keenum?   I pray it regardless...😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 22 hours ago, Let's Go Buffalo said: This would be fine with me. Keenum already has some proven reps with Diggs....Minneapolis Miracle......so that's a plus. Luckily, that's just an insurance policy in this Case! Look at Keenum's stats a few years ago. He nearly had a 4,000 yarder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 4 hours ago, Nextmanup said: Pray to the sweet baby Jesus that nothing happens to Josh! Â Case Keenum? Â Â You should be doing this regardless b.c if Josh is out it doesn't matter who the backup is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Needed a qb that could come in and still beat the jets or dolphins if josh is out a few weeks. Especially with how competitive the AFC is, can't afford a loss to the jets. And keenum gives us that, I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 I'm sort of surprised the Browns let him go to be honest; they're not seriously looking to keep Mayfield on as the number two QB are they? And if they're acting as if Watson will be suspended for a large period of time, and expecting Mayfield to step in, then I thought Keenum would be the perfect back up. Think we've got a steal, especially if we get Barkley back too to support Josh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Solid guy/seasoned quarterback. Â It's a good pick up. Â Heaven forbid he should have to start his only seemingly weakness is his arm isn't very strong. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Some teams make so many odd decisions that can screw them for years  Having Beane on ‘the team’ gives the Bills such an advantage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Solid qb that will win week 17 next year so josh can rest up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 4 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said: Nobody would ever offer that much for Keenum on the final year of his contract. He went for a 7th. The NFL isn't like the movie Draft Day. To put this in perspective, if someone had offered Cleveland a 6th, they wouldn't have sent him to the Bills for a 7th. Same story like last year when some were saying trade Mitch for a #1 if offered-Nobody offered. We didnt trade Money mitch when people came calling last year. 5 hours ago, BillsMafi$ said:  This sit better with you Niagra? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Sportrac has now Keenum in violet (which is very rare) with the following comment: Player can void the 2022 year with a $3.5M payback.  Anybody knows what that means? It sounds like he can give us $3.5M back and find a better deal if he wants. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 21 hours ago, BUFFALOBART said: I've since read that the Browns stated, that they would 'Replace Baker with an Adult', so all bets are off, with regard to Mayfield's fate..  that tells me he's a goner   1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 1:08 PM, Ethan in Portland said: as others have said if Allen gets hurt it doesn't matter who plays. That's not necessarily true imo, I think with a serviceable backup this team could still beat more than half the teams in the league. If Allen went down for a few games they should still be able to win against lesser teams. The backup QB could be really important keeping the team in contention in that case.  Keenum isn't at all exciting but should be a decent game manager backup if needed and a calm veteran presence on the sideline.  1 hour ago, No_Matter_What said: Sportrac has now Keenum in violet (which is very rare) with the following comment: Player can void the 2022 year with a $3.5M payback.  Anybody knows what that means? It sounds like he can give us $3.5M back and find a better deal if he wants. Never seen that before but it sounds like he can buy out of his contract. Does Cle keep the 7th rounder if that happens? Weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Turk71 said: That's not necessarily true imo, I think with a serviceable backup this team could still beat more than half the teams in the league. If Allen went down for a few games they should still be able to win against lesser teams. The backup QB could be really important keeping the team in contention in that case.  Keenum isn't at all exciting but should be a decent game manager backup if needed and a calm veteran presence on the sideline.   Cant really argue with that.. but if Josh is out more than a "few games"... ( 3 or 4 maximum maybe?) then I dont think it matters... Ultimately I think we can only go as far as Josh Allen takes us in the pursuit of a chamionship 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Â 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:  I was curious who'd take jersey #5 with him and Barkley on the way. I forget he was #7 in Minny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Summary Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 4:24 PM, Mikie's Bills said: We had two 7ths originally. Ours and Atlanta's, so now we're down to 1. ...so we can still draft a punter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 4 hours ago, aristocrat said: Solid qb that will win week 17 next year so josh can rest up That's getting cocky. We needed him to play week 18 last year just to ensure the division title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, In Summary said: ...so we can still draft a punter. We also have an extra 6th too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Â Looks like a guy who wants out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Just now, JGMcD2 said: Looks like a guy who wants out! Â Diggs wants out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Doc said: Â Diggs wants out? Â 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 19 hours ago, Doc Brown said: They did and were able to reduce the cap hit from 8.4 million to 6.1 million. It's possible the Bills give him a new contract to lessen that cap hit. If they don't I agree with @Niagara Dudein that he's not worth 6.1 million against the cap. He’s not worth it if Josh Allen is healthy and plays every game.  He is worth it if Josh get hurt and misses time.  I’ve been paying car insurance for 31 years and have never gotten into an accident. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, NewEra said: He’s not worth it if Josh Allen is healthy and plays every game.  He is worth it if Josh get hurt and misses time.  I’ve been paying car insurance for 31 years and have never gotten into an accident. I made that comment before the contract restructuring. He's well worth a 3.5m dollar cap hit. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 15 minutes ago, NewEra said: He’s not worth it if Josh Allen is healthy and plays every game.  He is worth it if Josh get hurt and misses time.  I’ve been paying car insurance for 31 years and have never gotten into an accident. I’ve been in three bad accidents and thank God I had insurance at the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 14 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I’ve been in three bad accidents and thank God I had insurance at the time Sorry to hear that. Glad you’re still with us.  23 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: I made that comment before the contract restructuring. He's well worth a 3.5m dollar cap hit. Nice.  I hadn’t seen the new cap hit.  Perfect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 6 hours ago, No_Matter_What said: Sportrac has now Keenum in violet (which is very rare) with the following comment: Player can void the 2022 year with a $3.5M payback.  Anybody knows what that means? It sounds like he can give us $3.5M back and find a better deal if he wants.  That comment was on his original contract with the Browns.  I think the purple means they went ahead and put it up because it was reported by a reasonable source, but they haven't confirmed it They've got players contracts in purple, red, and blue, as well as italicized, and I haven't figured out their color code.   1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 10 hours ago, Turk71 said: That's not necessarily true imo, I think with a serviceable backup this team could still beat more than half the teams in the league. If Allen went down for a few games they should still be able to win against lesser teams. The backup QB could be really important keeping the team in contention in that case.  Keenum isn't at all exciting but should be a decent game manager backup if needed and a calm veteran presence on the sideline.  Never seen that before but it sounds like he can buy out of his contract. Does Cle keep the 7th rounder if that happens? Weird. Doubt it unless they agreed on that.  You trade for the contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Really nothing to complain about here.  We needed a backup capable of holding things together for a week or two if Josh goes down.  Not going to fret over the $$; that’s Beane’s job. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Case is a bargain at $3.5M if he decides to stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 12 hours ago, The Jokeman said: I was curious who'd take jersey #5 with him and Barkley on the way. I forget he was #7 in Minny. I’ll have to check but JP’s number might be retired. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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