Royale with Cheese Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: Not really. Beane is banking on the cap skyrocketing due to new TV deals. Whaley didnt have that. Whaley also didn't have Pegula bucks. The Pegulas owned the Bills since 2014 and Whaley was there until 2017. The salary cap raised $34 million dollars in total the time Whaley was here in 3 years The Bills were active with spending with Whaley. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoMAn Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Described as 'former Bills GM'. Doesn't say what his current title is. Oh yeah... unemployed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, BigDingus said: Definitely true. The cap getting a huge increase will help dramatically. Hopefully Diggs will be wanting to stay in Buffalo & not pull a Tyreek, leaving behind a great QB & contending for SBs in favor of just money. Obviously making more money is important, but being a key member of a good organization that contends for SBs seems more enjoyable than wasting away on the Jets or Texans or something. $25 million/yr on the Jags vs $19 million/yr on the Chiefs/Bills/Bucs/Rams/Bengals.... seems like a no-brainer to me. Whaley had 3 seasons with the Pegulas. We were very active in free agency with Whaley. I think we had the top free agency spending in 2015 I believe or near the top. The salary cap rose $33 million from 2014-2017.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Well it wouldn't be the first time he was out of the loop on what was going to happen here. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Found a neat article on the potential for a realistic extension for Diggs. https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2022/4/4/23001378/stefon-diggs-contract-projection-2022-buffalo-bills Whaley thinks the Bills can't afford it. I think Beane will think otherwise and will do what is best for Josh and the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 If I hadn't JUST heard Beane say "we want to see Diggs in Buffalo for years to come", and if I hadn't JUST heard that they really like to give Josh Allen input and ownership of the offense and make him happy, and it's well known that he Diggs are very close, I might -- MIGHT -- believe this. I do not believe this. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Whaley also though EJ Manuel was a good QB prospect 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninSarasota Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 "will be traded" does not equal "could be traded" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake_My_Head Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Can't wait for then next mock draft. It has much more value than speculation about trading Diggs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 11 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Beane needs to hit on 3 starters in the next 2 drafts and we have no issue keeping him. If not we need to think about trading him. is one of those 3 at QB? in terms of cap framework you have a high salaried QB, a high salary WR, a high salaried blind side tackle. On Defense the 3 high pairs are a CB, LB, and DL. About 4-5 other players on each side of the ball you have mid salary vets. the rest are draft picks/ not yet to free agency players, or players on prove it contracts. Diggs is likely gone after 2022 season. Their first target is the Alabama WR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Diggs is part of the heartbeat of the team. Bean will try to keep/pay him. Unless a draftee shows up as a true #1. Even then Diggs should stay around if the Bills can afford it. He is positive energy. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Logic said: If I hadn't JUST heard Beane say "we want to see Diggs in Buffalo for years to come", and if I hadn't JUST heard that they really like to give Josh Allen input and ownership of the offense and make him happy, and it's well known that he Diggs are very close, I might -- MIGHT -- believe this. I do not believe this. He said something similar about Beasley a couple months ago. 🤷♂️ What he just said is pure GM speak. Of course he would want to see Diggs in Buffalo for years to come. What he didnt say is "at all costs, no matter what he asks for, even to the detriment of building the rest of the team". I do think a new deal will get done next year. But trading him isnt completely impossible or unexpected. It is definitely one of the likely potential outcomes. And as much as we ALL love Diggs, this team revolves around Josh. And will revolve around Josh for at least the next 6-8 years, which is a lot longer than Diggs will be playing in the NFL. So like it or not, there will be a day in the near future where the Josh Allen-lead Bills do not have Diggs. We have our Franchise QB. Rotate/build talent around him in ways that are best for the team. No single WR breaks that approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 30 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: He went on to explain how he thought the best course of action would be to take the picks aquired in this trade, trade up to #4 and take the 3rd or 4th best WR in a WR loaded draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan_in_tx Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 17 minutes ago, BigDingus said: Definitely true. The cap getting a huge increase will help dramatically. Hopefully Diggs will be wanting to stay in Buffalo & not pull a Tyreek, leaving behind a great QB & contending for SBs in favor of just money. Obviously making more money is important, but being a key member of a good organization that contends for SBs seems more enjoyable than wasting away on the Jets or Texans or something. $25 million/yr on the Jags vs $19 million/yr on the Chiefs/Bills/Bucs/Rams/Bengals.... seems like a no-brainer to me. I know a young pitcher in the MLB who won a WS early in his career. After winning the ring, he stated the only thing left for him was to chase the money. If Diggs gets a ring in 2022, he will follow the cash and I don't blame him. I agree with Tyreeks move as what else does he need to accomplish? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Logic said: If I hadn't JUST heard Beane say "we want to see Diggs in Buffalo for years to come", and if I hadn't JUST heard that they really like to give Josh Allen input and ownership of the offense and make him happy, and it's well known that he Diggs are very close, I might -- MIGHT -- believe this. I do not believe this. This is where I am. Logically, it makes sense to trade him. We could get back a deal, likely close, to what Tyreek Hill brought back KC.. and I don't think Diggs - as good as he is - is the difference maker Hill is. With Josh Allen, at the level he is at now, as long as we keep stocking the cupboard with talented WR's like Gabriel Davis, Jamison Crowder, one day maybe he gets the miracle of a high draft pick WR, etc.. as long as we keep doing that, he's going to elevate these dudes to an elite level. Diggs obviously helps, but if I didn't hear how Beane talks about him, and how Josh loves the guy, I'd be inclined to think we might move him due to cap allocation concerns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 33 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: Not really. Beane is banking on the cap skyrocketing due to new TV deals. Whaley didnt have that. Whaley also didn't have Pegula bucks. Except for those 3 years he did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Whaley is a *****in' Wheenie. You lost the right to comment on anything Bills when you mortgaged the future of the franchise for Sammy Watkins instead of Khalil Mack. Go to hell, Dougie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Whaley needs to keep Beane and Diggs' names out his f'in mouth 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Whaley and Russ set this organization back 8 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 22 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: I might be in the minority here. I think a Diggs trade is a real possibility. Don't get me wrong I love Diggs and what he brings to the team. Last year, I thought he wasn't as dominate as the previous year. Many games he was a non factor probably due to double teams. He still is an elite number 1 receiver. However, a trade should be considered depending on what the Bills draft and how Davis and others develop. I believe Allen is good enough to win without Diggs. That money can be utilized to bolster the Oline, replace him, and running game. If the price is right I think Beane pulls the trigger. No one thought Adams or Hill would be traded so why not Diggs? Qbs make receivers. Wrs don't make QBs. Tend to agree. I think he's safe this year unless behind the scenes he's already talking about wanting his deal redone now and is looking for Hill/Adams $$. Then could see a trade in next couple of weeks. If he's OK for now, likely play this year on current deal, but again if he's looking for top $4 he could be gone by around now next year. Also will be telling where they draft WR this year to see what they think. If they were to draft the kid from Bama, think the hand writing is one the wall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Where’s Will Smith when you need him. ‘Keep Bills player’s names out your ****’n mouth’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Whaley should just focus on running the XFL. That's where his assessment of talent truly lies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Oh so THIS he's privy to? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 14 minutes ago, transient said: He went on to explain how he thought the best course of action would be to take the picks aquired in this trade, trade up to #4 and take the 3rd or 4th best WR in a WR loaded draft. So Create a hole, to get all the assets to fill the hole. Whaleys way actually 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 So in a championship window we are supposed to do away with one of our top assets for lottery tickets Makes sense.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Bills win super bowl and immediately trade Diggs before the draft for 2 1's and 2 2's. You guys wouldn't be ok with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Just now, KDIGGZ said: Bills win super bowl and immediately trade Diggs before the draft for 2 1's and 2 2's. You guys wouldn't be ok with that? I mean it'd leave a bad taste in my mouth most definitely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Someone should call in & ask him how that Steelers GM job is working out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 I wouldn’t doubt it. I still think Beane wants to try and squeeze the most out of Diggs’ current contract and win the Lombardi this year. I’d suspect that that he’ll try and throw him a few extra mill now to keep him happy for the season. 30M aav ain’t no joke and I don’t blame Beane for not wanting to pay that kind of money for any non QB. Should’ve paid him before this offseason….the WR pay scale is now broken. 12 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Bills win super bowl and immediately trade Diggs before the draft for 2 1's and 2 2's. You guys wouldn't be ok with that? I’d be on board with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Bills win super bowl and immediately trade Diggs before the draft for 2 1's and 2 2's. You guys wouldn't be ok with that? I don’t think anyone would complain with that kind of haul, but there's ZERO chance Stef would fetch that much in return. Edited April 4, 2022 by Chicken Boo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Whaley had his shot and he failed. Time to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Chicken Boo said: I don’t think anyone would complain with that kind of haul, but there's ZERO chance Stef would fetch that much in return. He's better than Tyreek Hill who is a 1 trick pony imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Just now, KDIGGZ said: He's better than Tyreek Hill who is a 1 trick pony imo I strongly disagree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I mean it'd leave a bad taste in my mouth most definitely. Well, I mean.........you are only a Bills fan because you were following Josh Allen..........you root for the player first, team is relative............the majority of the fanbase is here to root for the laundry. And actually Diggs going out on top would give him hero/cult status among the types of fans who worship Freddie Jackson and Kyle Williams etc.. This as opposed to underperforming his contract and bitterly playing out the string under fan/media scrutiny........which seems inevitable if a new contract takes him into his mid-30's. For people who are attached to the player it might be a good ending while preparing the Bills for sustained success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: I don’t think anyone would complain with that kind of haul, but there's ZERO chance Stef would fetch that much in return. Agreed...I’d be hopeful for a 1st, 3rd, and a 5th... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 1 minute ago, JaCrispy said: Agreed...I’d be hopeful for a 1st, 3rd, and a 5th... I'd be ok with that if Beane drafts a #1 caliber replacement in a few weeks. I'm not a fan of the committee approach. We need studs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 30 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: So Create a hole, to get all the assets to fill the hole. Whaleys way actually I think he was being facetious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 I dont see the upside in trading the guy right now. His last two years have been the best of his career, he is incredibly close with your franchise QB, and he probably has 3-4 really good years left in the tank. Sure you cut salary, but who replaces him? Gabe Davis? An unproven rookie? Any veteran you bring in thats worth his weight will cost you what Diggs costs anyways. Unless Diggs doesnt want to be here, which doesnt seem likely, why is this even a question right now? They'll have the money to pay him next year, to me its a non-issue, and a product of the boring offseason. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 16 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Well, I mean.........you are only a Bills fan because you were following Josh Allen..........you root for the player first, team is relative............the majority of the fanbase is here to root for the laundry. And actually Diggs going out on top would give him hero/cult status among the types of fans who worship Freddie Jackson and Kyle Williams etc.. This as opposed to underperforming his contract and bitterly playing out the string under fan/media scrutiny........which seems inevitable if a new contract takes him into his mid-30's. For people who are attached to the player it might be a good ending while preparing the Bills for sustained success. That's how I got here but at this point I'd say I'm rooting for the team plenty too. I mean the idea that the Bills win a Super Bowl and then immediatly trade away one of the key pieces in doing that not being somewhat upsetting seems ridiculous to me. Not saying I don't understand the idea or that it might not be the better move at the time, it would just not be something I'd particularly enjoy. I mean I'm sad that Kyle Williams and Lorenzo Alexander won't be on the team when they win the Super Bowl, doesn't mean I don't understand why that's how it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 1 hour ago, BuffaninSarasota said: "will be traded" does not equal "could be traded" Yeah, he really went out on the limb with the possibility that a player who wants a new contract could possibly be traded. It’s exactly the kind of insight that I’ve come to expect from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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