Heavy Kevi Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 It's clear everyone expects Daboll to get a HC job this year, including Josh who's publicly stated he expects Daboll to go. It's also widely believed that Josh wants Dorsey as OC, and McD said Josh's input is important to him. What do you think Dorsey would do given both options, to stay and OC a proven star on a SB caliber team in Josh/Bills, or does he take OC is NY (or wherever) with Daboll and potentially Trubisky? Does he stay or does he go? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Why would he leave to work with much lesser QB, whoever it will be? 6 14 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 I don't know much about Dorsey personally, but staying in Buffalo objectively seems like the much better choice. You have a winning team with strong offensive personnel and a HOF-caliber QB already in place. The Giants (or Bears, or wherever Daboll might end up) could turn out to be total s*&t show ending up with everyone getting fired. Doing a good job with the Bills (which would almost seem inevitable) would lead to HC opportunities in the future. 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 This is like asking would you rather have sex with a 10 or a 2. 3 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 I don’t think the bills would release him from contract to make a lateral Move. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobillswin Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 I think being the OC for a defensive minded coach is much better than being an OC for an offensive minded coach. He knows he’ll get to call the plays here. Don’t know if Daboll will want to call the plays or take over playcalling of the team is struggling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 I know what I would choose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 My gut says he’d rather stay with a quarterback who would make him look good (Allen), rather than a reclamation project in Jones or some rookie. Then again, he may be eager to make his own mark by developing a quarterback of his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) I don’t know why he’d leave to go to the NYG if he was offered the OC job here. He’d definitely be the one calling plays here, and he’d get to work with one of the top 3-5 QBs in the NFL (I’d put Josh top 2 after his playoff performance this season) who he already has a great relationship with. QBs like Allen make OCs careers. If he was offered the OC job in Buffalo and chose the NYG anyway, I’d be pretty concerned as to why. Edited January 26, 2022 by BillsFan4 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 The idea that Free agents want to come here also pertains to coaches. Getting to run an O with Allen at QB is like a wet dream on coke for any OC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) Josh is Dorsey's meal ticket to a head coaching gig in the future. Why would you unhook yourself from that wagon! Edited January 26, 2022 by Lieutenant Aldo Raine 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 If he wants to be a head coach someday he'll stay. If he wants the Bills to give him more money with his elevation to OC he will have his agent spread rumors to an easily tempted reporter with a fast twitter finger that he is considering leaving with Daboll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: My gut says he’d rather stay with a quarterback who would make him look good (Allen), rather than a reclamation project in Jones or some rookie. Then again, he may be eager to make his own mark by developing a quarterback of his own. I guess you could say filling in as Bills oc could be the best or worst job to take. On one hand you have Josh allen and diggs to call plays to. On the other hand anything less than afc championship game will be a let down, not much of a learning curve for a new oc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Do you want to be OC for a team or do you want to interview for a chance to be? Thats the comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 If he wants to go work with Daniel Jones then I wouldn’t lose sleep over him leaving. Sounds like a dumb decision to me. We’ll have plenty of options to replace Daboll if he does leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Professionally it would be silly. Why would you want your first stop as an OC to be at an org tied to an arrow pointing downward like NYG? The real question becomes, what if some of the Chicago rumors are true re: Dungy and Frazier. If they make that hire before Daboll to NYG or MIA, then I think in that situation you run the risk of losing both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st pete gogolak Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 He'd be an idiot to take an OC offer from another team if the Bills offered him the OC position. If he turned it down, I wouldn't want him because I would question his judgment, maybe his sanity. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) Daboll and Dorsey had no relation prior to the Bills. He has a prior relationship with McDermott. He has an established QB in Buffalo that's likely a ticket to his own HC job. So does anyone know something that would indicate it's more likely he leaves with Daboll? This sounds like hysteria. Edited January 26, 2022 by Malazan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaFitz1 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 “Every quarterback would love to be a part of the process. There’s a guy in this building that I’m a huge advocate for. Again, it’s not my job. It’s not my decision to make.” - Josh Allen My hunch is if Daboll leaves Dorsey will be the new OC - just a hunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 I know his alma mater The U reportedly has a salary of over $1.5M per year on the table in search for their next OC. Daboll was one of the highest paid OC's in the league in Buffalo at I believe around $2M. So I think Dorsey might have a decision to make between college and the NFL as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Dorsey was a McBeane guy from Carolina. I have to imagine his loyalty lies with the Bills staff, and more importantly, Allen. Any team hiring a new coach this year sucks. Why go to a bad situation when you can stay here, likely win a Super Bowl in a couple years, and be on a fast track to a HC spot? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said: I know his alma mater The U reportedly has a salary of over $1.5M per year on the table in search for their next OC. Daboll was one of the highest paid OC's in the league in Buffalo at I believe around $2M. So I think Dorsey might have a decision to make between college and the NFL as well. His best chance being successful would be staying with Josh I would think, but never know what's on a persons mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 37 minutes ago, msw2112 said: I don't know much about Dorsey personally, but staying in Buffalo objectively seems like the much better choice. You have a winning team with strong offensive personnel and a HOF-caliber QB already in place. The Giants (or Bears, or wherever Daboll might end up) could turn out to be total s*&t show ending up with everyone getting fired. Doing a good job with the Bills (which would almost seem inevitable) would lead to HC opportunities in the future. Dabol could easily end up in Miami, Dabol had Tua in college. I never thought much of Tua but I have to giv him credit for edning the season like a real NFL QB. Maybe Dorsey think he can develop Tua into the "tank for Tua" non-sense so many were babbling about a few years ago. And Miami is projected to have the most cap space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Judging by McDermott's response yesterday, I suspect none of the assistants will be made available to Daboll or Frasier, assuming they are under contract. McD said they have already discussed this with the candidates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaFitz1 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I know his alma mater The U reportedly has a salary of over $1.5M per year on the table in search for their next OC. Daboll was one of the highest paid OC's in the league in Buffalo at I believe around $2M. So I think Dorsey might have a decision to make between college and the NFL as well. Reports had Daboll at $1.2 million last season. Callahan 237k, Canada made 650k, AVP 917k, Mc Daniels 4 million, Shurmer $6 million, LaFleur $10.6 million.... Venables at Clemson $2.5 million, Elliot at Clemson $2.13 million, Elko Texas A&M $2.1, Grantham Florida $1.8.... Note those and the other highest paid OCs in college are at state schools Additionally, UM was considering him for Head Coach - which is now Cristobal who got a 10 year $80 million deal that upset the school staff because they had to take pay cuts. If they offer him over $1.5 million as a first year coordinator the staff will flip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Why not the Hall the wr coach? McVay, Shannahan, Lafluer all started at wr coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Who cares. We have Allen. We don't even know if Dorsey is any good at anything. I'd favor continuity but who is the OC is the least of my worries heading in to this off-season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Heavy Kevi said: It's clear everyone expects Daboll to get a HC job this year, including Josh who's publicly stated he expects Daboll to go. It's also widely believed that Josh wants Dorsey as OC, and McD said Josh's input is important to him. What do you think Dorsey would do given both options, to stay and OC a proven star on a SB caliber team in Josh/Bills, or does he take OC is NY (or wherever) with Daboll and potentially Trubisky? Does he stay or does he go? He gets Josh Allen or Daniel Jones you wanna tell me which player gets you a head coaching job and which gets you fired? Edited January 26, 2022 by 78thealltimegreat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Mantis_Toboggan Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Do you want to drivea Ferrari or a Camaro that needs a bunch of work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Pay him a ton that’s why he leaves 2 minutes ago, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said: Do you want to drivea Ferrari or a Camaro that needs a bunch of work? Some of these Camaros are quick as a ferrari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Mat68 said: Why not the Hall the wr coach? McVay, Shannahan, Lafluer all started at wr coach. Being a position coach, and being someone to design an offense, and more importantly be a great play caller, are worlds apart. Maybe Hall has it in him, but your reasons for him being considered as OC leave a lot to be desired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, BTB said: Being a position coach, and being someone to design an offense, and more importantly be a great play caller, are worlds apart. Maybe Hall has it in him, but your reasons for him being considered as OC leave a lot to be desired. None of us know that answer. Im not saying because those coaches are good he will be too. In the offensive room more than the qb coach could be the answer at OC is all. Best offensive mind should be the guy. Edited January 26, 2022 by Mat68 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 We’ll find out soon enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Dorsey to Bills OC. Davis Webb to QB Coach? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Josh needed Daboll to help him with the training wheels and getting up to speed in the NFL. Now that JA is all grown up and knows how to makes plays, read NFL defenses and harnessed his own potential..i think he will thrive with a new OC. Whether that's Dorsey or not, who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 2 hours ago, No_Matter_What said: Why would he leave to work with much lesser QB, whoever it will be? Because he'd be promoted to OC (under the hypothetical) and that's a move up the ladder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Codyny13 said: I don’t think the bills would release him from contract to make a lateral Move. It wouldn't be lateral. He is not our OC...yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 39 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Dorsey to Bills OC. Davis Webb to QB Coach? And Fitzmagic to backup QB? Obviously he loves it here and there’s worse you could do than Fitz. Draft a late QBs on a flyer too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Greg S said: This is like asking would you rather have sex with a 10 or a 2. A 2 is a 10 at 10 minutes to 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: And Fitzmagic to backup QB? Obviously he loves it here and there’s worse you could do than Fitz. Draft a late QBs on a flyer too I love Fitz, and lead the bandwagon to get him into the HoF. But I don't want him anywhere near Josh with his backup curse. He can sign a 1-day contract to retire as a Bill, but that's it. For backup QB, I'd follow the Trubisky model. Keep finding those 1st round picks that were mishandled by the team that drafted them, and bring them in for 1 year. Next year is Darnold (who is good friends with Josh), year after maybe Daniel Jones, year after that Trey Lance, etc... Edited January 26, 2022 by DrDawkinstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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