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Post-Beatdown Belichick Locker Room Visit?


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2 hours ago, May Day 10 said:

Say what you will about Belichick, he has a great respect for the sport, history of the sport, and strategy involved.  

 

I would bet dollars to donuts he likes and respects McDermott and the feeling is mutual, although there is likely a healthy competitive rivalry in there.  Belichick likely has no use for bravado clowns like Rex Ryan.  McDermott seems to publicly say and do the right thing, does things the right way, and has his team very well prepared.  

 

The prospect of defending Allen for the foreseeable future has to be a nightmare for Belichick though.  The rollout run vs pass quandary is like a cheat play in Madden football that cant be defended.

It's hard for me to agree with this about a guy that's cheated like he has.

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2 hours ago, No Place To Hyde said:

After the game in Foxboro, Bill spent an unusual amount of time talking to Allen (by BB's standards) and was gracious with McD.

 

This time, it was a quick handshake to McD and a fast trot off the field.

 

The guy is almost 70 and was out in subzero weather. He likely wanted to come in and get warm. However, I have no doubts that if he went to the Bills locker room it was to give them an honest congrats. The way the Bills played his defense the last 2 games was historic. Bill admires history. I think after 20 years....this team has earned his respect.

 

 

Nice thoughts …. Let’s hope they are true.

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3 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Heard Sal with Howard and Jeremy this morning talk about this on WGR, but Sal was unaware as to any details and haven't seen this pop up anywhere else--was wondering if anyone knows more, or have any guesses as to what was said/may have happened with a Belichick visit to the Bills locker room after this historic game?

 

https://nesn.com/2022/01/bill-belichick-visited-bills-locker-room-after-patriots-playoff-loss/

 

I will guess he is showing respect for Allen.  Belichick seems to really like him and his play.

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3 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

Handing over all of his ill gotten Chiefs intel.

I was thinking the other way around. 

 

"Hey, Andy. There's a package in the mail coming to you.   Don't let any of the aides open it.  Good luck Sunday.  You won't need it with this. "

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2 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

I was thinking the other way around. 

 

"Hey, Andy. There's a package in the mail coming to you.   Don't let any of the aides open it.  Good luck Sunday.  You won't need it with this. "

With the way the Pats played against us the last 2 games Andy would be wise to say "No thanks"

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1 hour ago, Last Guy on the Bench said:

Aw, crap. Now I have to like him. What are you doing to me Bill, being all classy and large spirited? It's disturbing my universe.

 

Isolated incident does not change the world.  It is like the Mafia killers going to confession each week.

1 hour ago, turftoe said:

I hope so.  For all the times this guy has cheated, I would make sure there are no missing playbooks and make sure he didn't leave some type of surveillance equipment. This guy approaches the game like it is war. Spying is part of war and cheating doesn't exist in war. I once saw something on tv about his view on such matters and that was basically his approach to preparing for a game.

 

he once called Sun Tzu weak.

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1 hour ago, Last Guy on the Bench said:

Thanks. I went and looked for it, and I think this is what you were talking about? Pretty cool.

Belestrator on Allen, Diggs, Singletary

Yes.   I guess it's something he does weekly.  

 

He really doesn't give any great football insights analyzing either play, but I thought I could hear his admiration for Allen.  It was if he was thinking, "Well, I can game plan all I want, but sometimes my players are going to do everything right and this guy is just going to beat them."  

 

The other time I could hear it in him was when I watched a few minutes of that show the NFL Network, I think, did about the 100 greatest players of all time.   Belichick was one of the guys they interviewed about those players, and you could hear Belichick's respect for these guys.   

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This won't be popular - but I have always appreciated Belichick, and even Brady.  I hated that the Bills had to face them twice a year, but they're both legends, and if you're a football fan, they're at the top of the game.

 

It was the fans that made me dislike the team so much.  

 

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Just now, Gene1973 said:

Not sure how enjoyable that type of loss is...

 

Hobbies are only enjoyable when they don't kick you in the nuts.

 

Well, the loss certainly isn't enjoyable but at this point it's all frosting on the cake for Bill. 

 

Obviously he wants to win but there is absolutely zero pressure on him. He's the GOAT of coaches. 

 

Some fans and media love to do the "Belichick or Brady?" thing but his game plan for the Bills/Giants SB (played when Brady was like 13 years old) is in the HOF. Brady didn't make him. 

 

As time has gone by, I have grown to actually appreciate Belichick and hate Brady even more. I know many have done the opposite. Hearing over and over again about how everything is Brady when it's a team sport annoys the crap out of me. Brady didn't coach up Malcom Butler to be in that spot for the game winning INT vs Seattle. Brady didn't kick the game winning field goals for his first rings. Tell Bruschi, Seymour, Harrison, and Vrabel that it was "all Brady."

 

What Bill has done is far more impressive. 30 years, 2 franchises, how many hundreds of players churned through the roster in NE over their dynasty years?

 

Brady went to Tampa and assembled an all-star team that should have lost had Rodgers not been a total choke artist in the playoffs. 

 

 

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5 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Heard Sal with Howard and Jeremy this morning talk about this on WGR, but Sal was unaware as to any details and haven't seen this pop up anywhere else--was wondering if anyone knows more, or have any guesses as to what was said/may have happened with a Belichick visit to the Bills locker room after this historic game?

 

https://nesn.com/2022/01/bill-belichick-visited-bills-locker-room-after-patriots-playoff-loss/

 

 

 

Was it for a Job Interview?

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This sucks. I really enjoyed the  “handshake “ at the end of the game, the ridiculous press conference, and the picture that painted that he was sour.  Him doing this takes away from the satisfaction I felt. Therefore I’m going to envision him going in there was contentious and that he was basically threatening McDermott and our team not to do this again. 

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Beli was probably frustrated after the game, and needed a minute to settle in before he could have a good convo with Bills staff

 Very apparent he likes josh, and no doubt in my mind he respect mcd.

 

It's funny because I can relate to that same sequence of emotions towards Brady and Beli. Hated them my whole life, but as both of their careers are coming to a close, I've made it a point to try and respect them for the football legends they are. Easier to digest after the 20yr stranglehold they've had on us has dissipated the last 2 years.

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5 hours ago, bigduke6 said:

he was stopping by to ask McD to hire his son as DC.

 

When BB was walking off the field my thought was he finally figured out that his DC sucks, but how can he fire his son. 

 

Technically not listed as DC, but as they always say, don't let facts get in the way

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3 hours ago, Warcodered said:

It's hard for me to agree with this about a guy that's cheated like he has.

 

BB broke the unwritten code of spying on the team that's HC used to be on BB staff so know his secrets and got caught.

 

Plenty of cheating going on, but Pats have got caught a few times.  Part of that is because they are hated by many, hated more than many teams.

 

Recall a story in early mid 70's.  Raiders were playing Steelers in playoffs.  Raiders just finished practice  where they put their game plan in and players went into locker room.  Madden calls the m all back out for another 2 hours or so of practice as apparently Al Davis had just received the illegal film he had taken of Steelers practice.  So now that they knew what Steelers had planned, they changed their entire game plan.  Raiders won game BTW.

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I'm certain that once word got to the Pats media team that this happened

he was strongly encouraged to make sure he made amends before the media availability. I like that so many were super quick to give him the benefit of the doubt before they saw this. Turns out he's just as fallible as everyone else and has been known to throw a phone and barely shake a hand. 

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6 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

I agree I think based on comments he's dropped along the way and even his postgame interactions suggest he greatly covets Allen and what he brings to the QB table as unique. As to McD, that seems to be a bit more on the frosty side though?

 

Wouldn't surprise me. I've said this before but when I see Belichick on shows like top 100 or Football Life I don't hate him nearly as much. He's obviously incredibly knowledgeable about NFL history and can talk at length about the most obscure players.

 

He also seems more humble in those settings where he'll talk about coaches from the past as though he couldn't hope to be as good as them. So I could imagine if he does have a lot of respect for Allen that he would do something like this. And he would have to have a LOT of respect for him. Considering the offense he's been running hasn't punted 2 games in a row against his defense he would have to see the significance of that.

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8 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

Maybe putting his name in for the potential DC opening if Frazier leaves?

 

More seriously, it's pretty clear that BB is a big fan of McDermott and absolutely loves Josh Allen as a player.

This right here.  I remember listening to the Go Long podcast and Jim Monos said after the Pegulas hired McDermott Belichick called them unsolicited to congratulate them on making a good choice.

 

Also last year when Josh destroyed the Patriot defense in Foxboro, Belichick spent a few extra moments talking to Josh which he rarely does.  As you can tell by his press conferences he’s not the more jovial coach who would spend time/energy blowing smoke up your arse, so I’m thinking this was legit admiration 

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