hondo in seattle Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 This gives Pats fans hope... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Now do MacDorkle 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Allen has overcome everything that caused people to doubt him. I have a feeling that he's going to conquer the cold this weekend and erase another negative talking point 7 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Well... 2 of those 3 lastest games in your chart aren't horrendous passing ratings, and the Atlanta game was a win, so not sure how super excited Pats fans should be about those stats... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 2018 and 2019 games? How about double-digit wins in each of the 2021/22 games! and that's with Allen not playing well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Where are the last 2 games in New England? 2 games with a perfect passer rating would make this inaccurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, dorquemada said: Now do MacDorkle Good point. If New England is pinning any hopes of a victory based on that fiasco of a game in the first matchup they are delusional. Mac Jones was a joke of a QB, yes we lost and yes we were outcoached, McD isnt going to cower again with J Allen and the weather. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: This gives Pats fans hope... 2018 and 2019 have no bearing on who he is today. Also precipitation and wind matter as well. So really 1 game vs the Falcons in the snow and he had a couple dropped TDs that game too, interceptions off deflections. Also, he was really damn good in the playoffs last year when the temperature was recorded at 34 degrees at kickoff, rather than 32 lol 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Allen has a 3-2 record in games that are 30 degrees or less. Also only completing 50% of his passes in those contests. He is probably going to need to play like he did in NE (or very close to it) for the Bills to win this game. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Please, no. I'm already consumed with my usual "something will go wrong" illness that usually consumes me before we play Belichick. I thought I was over it but the playoffs have brought on a very vigorous variant. I keep hearing the announcers shouting "the Bills won the battle but again the Patriots have won the war!" in my sleep, then I wake up screaming 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 9 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: This gives Pats fans hope... please show what the other QB's did in this weather 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/03aeb053-2f02-4950-b618-676d1447cbf3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: This gives Pats fans hope... Didn't the Bills win all those games? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metbill Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Not sure why it gives them hope...earlier game this year we were only one bad Diggs drop away from the win, DESPITE a terrible game across the entire offense. NE only ran the ball because they had no choice, that is what having a noodle arm QB does to your team. Our QB can throw in what we will see weather wise on Saturday night and theirs cannot. Josh will have yet another W in cold weather as well as stepping on the throat of that crap in NE and closing down their season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 I remember when we used to do this with Brady. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Is this whistling past the graveyard? They're 1-3 in their last 4 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 I'd be more interested in knowing what the wind was like during those games. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Pats fans know what's coming. It is going to be delicious 😋 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 How’s Wack Jones in this kind of weather? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 I mean, the bottom 3 are basically when some (outside Buffalo) were still saying he'd be a bust. So, 2 games in 2 years. Good luck w/ that, New England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 33 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: Didn't the Bills win all those games? No, 3-2. Lost to Jets in 2018 and Pats in 2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 we have to start out fast on offense. (and D and ST). We need to play all 60 min in the playoffs. We can't disappear or play down like we did v. ATL and NYJ (or only 1/2 v. Tampa). We can beat anyone. Let's do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Summary Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 If the Bills' run D shows up I'm not concerned. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Mat68 said: Where are the last 2 games in New England? 2 games with a perfect passer rating would make this inaccurate. Was is sub 32 degrees in those games? Idk….. but if they weren’t….there’s your answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Another weather thread?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said: Allen has a 3-2 record in games that are 30 degrees or less. Also only completing 50% of his passes in those contests. He is probably going to need to play like he did in NE (or very close to it) for the Bills to win this game. Why would he have to play close to the best game of his career win this game? Dude, you make no sense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted January 12, 2022 Author Share Posted January 12, 2022 To be clear, the chart is NOT my creation. It comes from an article titled, "Should Josh Allen's stats in cold weather give Patriots fans hope?" www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/do-josh-allens-cold-weather-stats-hint-patriots-edge-vs-bills I think the article asks a fair question. Josh does seem to struggle in cold weather games. But it's also true that some of those games were also windy. You'd have to guess the wind effects Josh more than the cold. And Saturday isn't supposed to be particularly windy. But, still, as a passing team wouldn't we all prefer to see sunshine, blue skies, and limp flags? Or alternatively, a domed roof above our QB's head? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaBill Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 9 minutes ago, NewEra said: Why would he have to play close to the best game of his career win this game? Dude, you make no sense. He’s a closeted Pats* pickle whistler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, RobbRiddick said: Please, no. I'm already consumed with my usual "something will go wrong" illness that usually consumes me before we play Belichick. I thought I was over it but the playoffs have brought on a very vigorous variant. I keep hearing the announcers shouting "the Bills won the battle but again the Patriots have won the war!" in my sleep, then I wake up screaming sorry to laugh but you are a true long time Bills fan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted January 12, 2022 Author Share Posted January 12, 2022 The Pats are looking for reasons for hope because they're not confident about Saturday. I talked to a friend who's a die-hard Pats fan. He's not feeling good at all. His evaluation: both teams have good defenses but Buffalo has home-field advantage and, by-far, the better QB. Stats are nice and Mac has a good completion percentage - but Allen makes far more game-changing plays. And he makes those plays with both his arm and his legs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, hondo in seattle said: This gives Pats fans hope... Silly stats Mac Jones has what? 3 whole passes? 1 minute ago, hondo in seattle said: The Pats are looking for reasons for hope because they're not confident about Saturday. I talked to a friend who's a die-hard Pats fan. He's not feeling good at all. His evaluation: both teams have good defenses but Buffalo has home-field advantage and, by-far, the better QB. Stats are nice and Mac has a good completion percentage - but Allen makes far more game-changing plays. And he makes those plays with both his arm and his legs. sounds like a reasonable Pats Fan (There are a few of them) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Silly stats Mac Jones has what? 3 whole passes? sounds like a reasonable Pats Fan (There are a few of them) No that game was not under 32. McCorkle has never played a game under freezing. Never. Blitz the ***** out of him, hit him early and often. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 minute ago, ArtVandalay said: No that game was not under 32. McCorkle has never played a game under freezing. Never. Blitz the ***** out of him, hit him early and often. Twas a time TB never won a game under 35 degrees RE JA17. I’m not worried at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Grasping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicharito Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 With the new stadium talk and it being open air I don’t get why the pegulas would invest a quarter billion dollars into a player and not build a dome. I have been saying this since last year. When Josh is in warm climates he’s electric. Just look at his games in Miami Dallas and New Orleans. The proof is there. The raiders built what looks like a beautiful domed stadium for 1.8 billion and we get a dumbed down 1.4 open air stadium. Makes no sense to me. Someone is inflating numbers! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Pats fans grasping at straws. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 2 hours ago, FilthyBeast said: Allen has a 3-2 record in games that are 30 degrees or less. Also only completing 50% of his passes in those contests. He is probably going to need to play like he did in NE (or very close to it) for the Bills to win this game. I think you’ve made it pretty clear you don’t like Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, hondo in seattle said: This gives Pats fans hope... Here is a more indepth look at those games. Game QB Att Comp Yds TDs INTs Rushes Yds TDs Tot Yds Tot TDs QBR Rating Won/Lost Score Jets @ Bills 12/9/18 Allen 36 18 206 0 2 9 101 2 307 2 70 44.4 L Darnold 24 16 170 1 1 4 10 0 180 1 71.8 83.7 W 27-23 Bills @ Steelers 12/15/19 Allen 25 13 139 1 1 7 28 1 167 2 75.7 65.3 W 17-10 Hodges 38 23 202 1 4 1 4 0 206 1 16.7 43.9 L Bills @ Pats*** 12/21/19 Allen 26 13 208 2 0 7 43 0 251 2 83.1 102.7 L Brady 33 26 271 1 0 4 4 0 275 1 90.7 111 W 24-17 Carolina @ Bills 12/19/21 Allen 34 19 210 3 1 3 24 0 234 3 44.2 91.5 W 31-14 Newton 38 18 156 1 1 15 71 1 227 2 17.3 56.5 L Atlanta @ Bills 1/2/22 Allen 26 11 120 0 3 15 81 2 201 2 60.7 17 W 29-15 Ryan 23 13 197 0 0 2 7 0 204 0 25.4 84.9 L Besides the fact that (1) it is a sample size from which no statistically significant information can be drawn,and (2) there is no real context to the numbers, the numbers themselves really don't offer any kind of hope to either side. The thing about playing in sub-freezing temperatures is that both QBs /teams have to do it. In the two losses, Allen drove the Bills 50 yards for the go ahead FG against the Jets, only to have the defense give up a game winning TD drive in the last two minutes; and against the Pats*** Allen drove them 60 yards in the last few minutes of the game only to turn it over on downs the NE 9 - coming up short on a game tying TD Edited January 12, 2022 by billsfan1959 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Some of those Bad games are two three years old LOL He had a bad game versus Atlanta.. guess what he still was able to run and move the ball And scored twice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 It's the poor circulation problem! 😲 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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