78thealltimegreat Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Forgive me for any thread that might have been started as I didn’t see one. This seems like major good news for the Bills 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 This will really help Cleveland give Baker Mayfield Patrick Mahomes money 2 1 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Might help to post a link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar High JA17 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: Might help to post a link. Hold on, let me roll out the red carpet for you too 1 3 1 1 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 10 minutes ago, Sugar High JA17 said: Hold on, let me roll out the red carpet for you too No need to be a jerk, posting a link for news reports is standard procedure. 4 1 2 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 23 minutes ago, HOUSE said: This will really help Cleveland give Baker Mayfield Patrick Mahomes money you WANT Cleveland to pay Baker big $. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 17 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: No need to be a jerk, posting a link for news reports is standard procedure. No wait ... I was at the airport yesterday and heard the same thing. 1 minute ago, damj said: No wait ... I was at the airport yesterday and heard the same thing. Ian Rappaport is reporting it (3) Ian Rapoport on Twitter: "The 2022 NFL Salary Cap is expected to reach the max of $208.2M — which means spending should be back. My story with @TomPelissero on the return of economic normalcy: https://t.co/INu4NnAQIw" / Twitter 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 (edited) These huge Cap jumps are going to favor the better teams in my opinion. If a really crappy team had $80M in cap space and offers player A $18M per year & A good team has $45M in cap space and offers same player A $16M per year I'd imagine a lot of FA will pick the better team. Long way of saying when most teams are flush with cash its going to be tough for crappy teams to outbid the good ones. Edited December 5, 2021 by Estro 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwater10 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 It logically follows that this will also allow more teams to retain pending free agents and keep them off the market. Either way, this should make free agency way more interesting than last year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 1 hour ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: you WANT Cleveland to pay Baker big $. No, but Cleveland is Cleveland, they have a history of stupid moves 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 The Bills better have an outstanding plan of building a real NFL O-Line with a real NFL RB. Thats just the beginning. We need a second TE as well. One that can block well and catch well. IDK if Sweeney can be a third TE so they should draft one to compete with Sweeney perhaps. Lastly, a truly big and fast NFL receiver for Josh would finish the spring shopping. Why can't Josh have a huge target like everyone else seems to have? We could run better with bigger receivers as well. So, a couple O-L but very good ones is key. A RB, a TE and a WR.... Now for the defense..... If Ed keeps playing we are going to have to activate his fifth year option. I don't know how the Bills feel about Star now so I'm not sure if he'll get an offer but when he played, he was clearly our best DT. One that can slow down a run game. Even if we sign him we have to add a DT high in the draft, if we let go of Star, we have to replace him separately because we are a DT down right now. Some might say we're down two. It might be time to replace Klein with a similar smart LB that is younger. We need a good CB to hold the fort at CB and provide better depth than we ever had. The proof should be in the pudding at DE. We have spent most our resources in the past two years drafting DEs. They should be hitting their primes next season and letting go of Hughes and Addison would give us the cash to rebuild the offense the right way (I'm all for clearing the house at RB, get all new ones imho....if I kept anyone it would be Singletary in a backup role.) So at end we go with Epenesa, Groot and Basham and draft another or get a sneaky good one in FA to give us four for the year. Keep Star and Ed and draft a DT high and low to give us four. Maybe Zimmer can come back for camp. Maybe Harry could be our fourth DT? (No higher....) IDK? The way we are playing this year you could look at bringing in many new coaches.... I know our DL coach was a good DC but what has he done so far in Buffalo? I loved Daboll in 2020, but it know becomes clear we built a pass only offense kind of on purpose and that's just plain dumb. I liked both Moss and Singletary better as rookies, really look hard at our RB coach. What the hell happened to our OTs? Cody Ford? Really gotta think long and hard about our OL coach as well. Maybe bring in a hard-nosed OC that can build a tough OL. Let him higher his coaches.... Note: It ain't all the coach's fault that is for sure as we are weak at OL, TE, RB, DT, CB & KR.... (yes, Knox is good but you're supposed to have three not one....Why can't we have two at least?) I'd like to see Allen running the Colts offense or even a better offense with better receivers....I admire that Colt line though that is for sure....and that run game of course.... The Bills are on the outside looking in right now with fan Billief declining heading into an all-important game at the Ralph. I sure hope we are ready.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 57 minutes ago, Estro said: These huge Cap jumps are going to favor the better teams in my opinion. If a really crappy team had $80M in cap space and offers player A $18M per year & A good team has $45M in cap space and offers same player A $16M per year I'd imagine a lot of FA will pick the better team. Long way of saying when most teams are flush with cash its going to be tough for crappy teams to outbid the good ones. And this is where agents come in and tell the player you're better off going to a crappy team for more money. These guys don't realize most of the time that you can do the same with 16m that you can do with 18m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Estro said: These huge Cap jumps are going to favor the better teams in my opinion. If a really crappy team had $80M in cap space and offers player A $18M per year & A good team has $45M in cap space and offers same player A $16M per year I'd imagine a lot of FA will pick the better team. Long way of saying when most teams are flush with cash its going to be tough for crappy teams to outbid the good ones. Yeah could really help the Bills do some work they couldn't get done last winter. Might be able to compete for a G like Laken Tomlinson and pursue a finishing pass rusher or FA or trade for one like Khalil Mack etc.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 This is great and all but Beane needs to do a much better job of using the cap for it to matter. A few elite players is a lot better than 20 average ones. We've given way too much much money to way too many very average players since he's been here. 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Yeah could really help the Bills do some work they couldn't get done last winter. Might be able to compete for a G like Laken Tomlinson and pursue a finishing pass rusher or FA or trade for one like Khalil Mack etc.. We currently have $198m on the books for 2022. Maybe we let Klein go to save another $5m. That would give us $15m to work with... could be enough for one splash player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: No, but Cleveland is Cleveland, they have a history of stupid moves 😬 He's saying we, as Bills fans, do want Cleveland to pay a lot to Baker Mayfield b/c Mayfield isn't that good and it will only limit the team's success. Or something like that. I think. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Forgive me for any thread that might have been started as I didn’t see one. This seems like major good news for the Bills Everyone should have been expecting nothing less, NFL prints money...those TV contracts are going to be huge once they kick in Edited December 5, 2021 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 3 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Forgive me for any thread that might have been started as I didn’t see one. This seems like major good news for the Bills Not really good news for the Bills unless Beane can undo the mess he's created but pretty sure there's a lot of deals he can get out of quickly like Feliciano, Williams, etc. Either way not sure they'll be enough cap room to address the all the holes this team has on both sides of the ball, particularly the trenches. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 3 hours ago, HOUSE said: This will really help Cleveland give Baker Mayfield Patrick Mahomes money Ha! Then what's Lamar going to get? 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: We currently have $198m on the books for 2022. Maybe we let Klein go to save another $5m. That would give us $15m to work with... could be enough for one splash player. Beasley and Sanders contracts are up, I'd hope we could one of them back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 I don’t believe any player should make over 5 million per year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Nextmanup said: He's saying we, as Bills fans, do want Cleveland to pay a lot to Baker Mayfield b/c Mayfield isn't that good and it will only limit the team's success. Or something like that. I think. LOL, Thank you...geeez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: We currently have $198m on the books for 2022. Maybe we let Klein go to save another $5m. That would give us $15m to work with... could be enough for one splash player. As we all know..........it really depends on how urgently they view addressing their weaknesses is..........the cap is EXTREMELY malleable. We heard last offseason that the numbers dictated that they wouldn't be able to do anything at all in FA and were going to lose several players..........then they signed Milano back........and Williams..........and Feliciano........and brought in Sanders........and kept Morse.........and were in on Gronk...........and JJ Watt. They have lot's of contracts they can adjust.........more than just Klein that they will likely cut.........and the promise of BIG cap increases several years down the road once the impact of Covid has diminished. Edited December 5, 2021 by BADOLBILZ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 4 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: you WANT Cleveland to pay Baker big $. Yes, yes i do 😈😈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 2 hours ago, FilthyBeast said: Not really good news for the Bills unless Beane can undo the mess he's created but pretty sure there's a lot of deals he can get out of quickly like Feliciano, Williams, etc. Either way not sure they'll be enough cap room to address the all the holes this team has on both sides of the ball, particularly the trenches. Jesus, really? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 Sign Quenton Nelson to the largest guard contract in history fully guaranteed and Force the Colts to match it 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 4 hours ago, Estro said: These huge Cap jumps are going to favor the better teams in my opinion. If a really crappy team had $80M in cap space and offers player A $18M per year & A good team has $45M in cap space and offers same player A $16M per year I'd imagine a lot of FA will pick the better team. Long way of saying when most teams are flush with cash its going to be tough for crappy teams to outbid the good ones. Yeah, and i also think that state tax structure matters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 4 hours ago, Estro said: These huge Cap jumps are going to favor the better teams in my opinion. If a really crappy team had $80M in cap space and offers player A $18M per year & A good team has $45M in cap space and offers same player A $16M per year I'd imagine a lot of FA will pick the better team. Long way of saying when most teams are flush with cash its going to be tough for crappy teams to outbid the good ones. Yes, you are correct. That’s how it usually works when the cap goes up a fair bit. The good teams get to hang on to more of their talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 3 hours ago, HappyDays said: We currently have $198m on the books for 2022. Maybe we let Klein go to save another $5m. That would give us $15m to work with... could be enough for one splash player. dont xpect Bradley to be back and figure a DE won’t be back who is $5M+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 23 minutes ago, djp14150 said: dont xpect Bradley to be back and figure a DE won’t be back who is $5M+ Who is Bradley? You are correct Hughes, Addison, or both will be gone. Butler will be gone for sure. H. Phillips they can probably bring back on the cheap. Not sure how they structured Williams contract but if he plays decently at guard down the stretch they probably bring him back so they have fewer holes to fill on the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 4 hours ago, HappyDays said: We currently have $198m on the books for 2022. Maybe we let Klein go to save another $5m. That would give us $15m to work with... could be enough for one splash player. Well, that’s certainly depressing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 (edited) I’m still trying to figure out how Beane thought we’d be a SB contender without have a single good offensive lineman. Somehow, the process went off track. And no, Dawkins isn’t a franchise LT. Edited December 6, 2021 by Governor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 4 hours ago, FilthyBeast said: Not really good news for the Bills unless Beane can undo the mess he's created but pretty sure there's a lot of deals he can get out of quickly like Feliciano, Williams, etc. Either way not sure they'll be enough cap room to address the all the holes this team has on both sides of the ball, particularly the trenches. You're fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Sign Quenton Nelson to the largest guard contract in history fully guaranteed and Force the Colts to match it They picked up his 5th year option.. he's not a free agent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 53 minutes ago, Governor said: I’m still trying to figure out how Beane thought we’d be a SB contender without have a single good offensive lineman. Somehow, the process went off track. And no, Dawkins isn’t a franchise LT. Can you explain to me the offense of lineman that he would’ve brought in that would’ve made a difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 6 hours ago, The Wiz said: And this is where agents come in and tell the player you're better off going to a crappy team for more money. These guys don't realize most of the time that you can do the same with 16m that you can do with 18m. So shouldn't they go with the better team offering $16 million (maybe that's what you're saying)? I guess to me it'd depend on how long the contract was for & how much was guaranteed money. $2 million per year over a 5 year contract adds up, but ultimately it depends on a number of things (including what stage of your career you're in). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaBillsJunkie Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 7 hours ago, The Wiz said: These guys don't realize most of the time that you can do the same with 16m that you can do with 18m. Let me know which ones, so I can take their extra 2. I could use it for Christmas gifts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 7 hours ago, FilthyBeast said: Not really good news for the Bills unless Beane can undo the mess he's created but pretty sure there's a lot of deals he can get out of quickly like Feliciano, Williams, etc. Either way not sure they'll be enough cap room to address the all the holes this team has on both sides of the ball, particularly the trenches. Say something nice about the Bills on this, a Bills board—it’s ok, really! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 8 hours ago, HappyDays said: We currently have $198m on the books for 2022. Maybe we let Klein go to save another $5m. That would give us $15m to work with... could be enough for one splash player. There's a couple of other Carolina alums that the Bills can save money releasing them too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 6 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said: Sign Quenton Nelson to the largest guard contract in history fully guaranteed and Force the Colts to match it This is the time for Beane and his scouts to go in the draft and get us a Wyatt Teller/Trey Smith. I hated it when they gave Morse all that money. Time for the wizard to stir his cauldron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 10 hours ago, cwater10 said: It logically follows that this will also allow more teams to retain pending free agents and keep them off the market. Either way, this should make free agency way more interesting than last year. Oh thank God we can keep the offensive line together now. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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