What was up with Beasley today?

[Hapless Bills Fan]

7 minutes ago, Muppy said:

the conversation here has remained on point and not sway into fighting bickering. Very good insights and perspectives. Im glad this thread wasnt closed even though its long and potentially very divisive. I still sense fellowship as bills fans

 

#classy

 

This thread is like a swan....gliding serenely across the surface of a lake....while underneath the water its little feet are paddling like Hell

[The Firebaugh Kid]

Go ahead and boo if you must. 

Lot less yellow coats around this year..... 😉

Real Bills fans don't do that crap. Especially to guys that embody the blue collar nature of the city like Beasely does. 

 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

17 minutes ago, WotAGuy said:

What actions of his gives you any sign of maturity? 🤣

 

Oh, c'mon Man, must we go there?  He's a married guy, father of 4 kids, see pictures of his wife and kids it's obvious he's a loving husband and dad.

 

He's been a good teammate and mentor to Josh, has supported him publicly saying it shouldn't be all on Josh and privately, being seen hugging a discouraged Josh about to face the media after the 2019 Ravens loss.  Guy played his ass off on a broken leg in the playoffs, being willing to sacrifice for the team is a sign of maturity.

 

If he wants his decision to be private and unquestioned, he's handling himself ass-backwards (I was gonna say bass-ackwards but I gotta respect our Bass)

 

But we all probably have blind spots.

[Governor]

I forgot he was on the team. Looks like they’re phasing him out of the offense. It isn’t a good situation for Pegula when 70 percent of the country hates one of your players. 
 

Something will have to give at some point.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

5 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:

Go ahead and boo if you must. 

Lot less yellow coats around this year..... 😉

Real Bills fans don't do that crap. Especially to guys that embody the blue collar nature of the city like Beasely does.

 

@The Firebaugh Kid, permit me to introduce you to @BADOLBILZ.  @BADOLBILZ, may I present to you @The Firebaugh Kid?

 

 

4 minutes ago, Governor said:

I forgot he was on the team. Looks like they’re phasing him out of the offense. It isn’t a good situation for Pegula when 70 percent of the country hates one of your players.

 

C'mon man.  70% of the country does no such thing.  For one thing, the NFL would be in alt if 70% of the country cared enough about NFL football to know who Cole Beasley is, even.

 

There is no evidence Beasley is being "phased out" of the offense.  He had  a couple games in 2019 and in 2020 where he only played 50% of the snaps and only had 2 targets.  It's defense-specific, who they decide to try to take away.  That's why Beasley had 0 receptions on 2 targets against the Ravens but 7 for 7 against the Colts and 7 of 9 against the Chiefs.

[Malazan]

1 hour ago, NY Nole said:

You seem just as opinionated and defiant as you are trying to portray Beasley being. Maybe you should stay off social media.

 

Did he make an agreement with his employer and co-workers to do so? Is he a public figure?

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

He knew he was lying when he called out the entire Bills fanbase for harassing him for his choice/beliefs/performance.

 

He cried wolf...........after that, any subsequent vague complaint can be presumed false or exaggerated.

 

OK, thanks for explaining that POV.  I didn't take Beasley calling out the entire fan base as "lying" but I can see that interpretation.

 

I didn't see Beasley complaining about being harassed by fans, that was Feliciano:

 

On the other hand, it's a fair cop that's vague, and could range from someone walking by the car and shouting "your dad should get vaccinated" as they pass, or screaming profanities and curses to that effect while getting in the road, blocking the path.  The first is kinda milquetoast, the latter is way out of line IMO.

[Governor]

36 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

@The Firebaugh Kid, permit me to introduce you to @BADOLBILZ.  @BADOLBILZ, may I present to you @The Firebaugh Kid?

 

 

 

C'mon man.  70% of the country does no such thing.  For one thing, the NFL would be in alt if 70% of the country cared enough about NFL football to know who Cole Beasley is, even.

 

There is no evidence Beasley is being "phased out" of the offense.  He had  a couple games in 2019 and in 2020 where he only played 50% of the snaps and only had 2 targets.  It's defense-specific, who they decide to try to take away.  That's why Beasley had 0 receptions on 2 targets against the Ravens but 7 for 7 against the Colts and 7 of 9 against the Chiefs.

You’re partly right. Most Americans had no idea who the guy was, but now EVERYONE knows his name, and knows 1 thing about him, that he’s a vocal anti-vaxer conspiracy theorist.

 

Thats extremely embarrassing as a fan. I can only imagine how ownership and other players feel.

 

The Buffalo Bills are a business, and Cole is really really bad for business. It will come to a head at some point.

 

And now he’s a victim.

 

Edit: I just saw his tweets. This not gonna end well.

Edited October 5, 2021 by Governor

[WideNine]

17 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Oh, c'mon Man, must we go there?  He's a married guy, father of 4 kids, see pictures of his wife and kids it's obvious he's a loving husband and dad.

 

He's been a good teammate and mentor to Josh, has supported him publicly saying it shouldn't be all on Josh and privately, being seen hugging a discouraged Josh about to face the media after the 2019 Ravens loss.  Guy played his ass off on a broken leg in the playoffs, being willing to sacrifice for the team is a sign of maturity.

 

If he wants his decision to be private and unquestioned, he's handling himself ass-backwards (I was gonna say bass-ackwards but I gotta respect our Bass)

 

But we all probably have blind spots.

 

This and not sure what he may have thought he heard.

 

The easiest way to keep personal decisions... you know - PERSONAL, is to not shout them from the roof tops on public media.

 

If you do, and some folks take issue with your opinions, then you probably need to spend more time contemplating discretion than getting salty that there are folks out there that will publicly disagree with you.

 

Other than his personal takes, which I didn't really need to know in the first place and could have easily been handled behind the 4 walls of OBD, I like Beas as a Bill and as a player - tough as nails and damn reliable.

 

 

 

 

Edited October 5, 2021 by WideNine

[Freak-O]

I think Beasley's position in this question is ridiculous and stupid and he for sure could have handled the situation better, but I can still root for him as a part of the Bills. Had we ever traded for Vick however, that wouldn't have been the case.

 

Booing him serves no purpose whatsoever. You'll never change a person's mind by acting like an arsehole.

[WotAGuy]

32 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Oh, c'mon Man, must we go there?  He's a married guy, father of 4 kids, see pictures of his wife and kids it's obvious he's a loving husband and dad.

 

He's been a good teammate and mentor to Josh, has supported him publicly saying it shouldn't be all on Josh and privately, being seen hugging a discouraged Josh about to face the media after the 2019 Ravens loss.  Guy played his ass off on a broken leg in the playoffs, being willing to sacrifice for the team is a sign of maturity.

 

If he wants his decision to be private and unquestioned, he's handling himself ass-backwards (I was gonna say bass-ackwards but I gotta respect our Bass)

 

But we all probably have blind spots.

Dude.  It was a joke. 

[WotAGuy]

37 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:

Go ahead and boo if you must. 

Lot less yellow coats around this year..... 😉

Real Bills fans don't do that crap. Especially to guys that embody the blue collar nature of the city like Beasely does. 

 

 

I hadn’t been to a game in probably 5-6 years until the first three games this year, and have noticed zero fights in the stands or people running around the roof of the dugout suites. Times have changed. Used to be a free-for-all in the end zones too. Much calmer atmosphere now - which has been really great. Winning cures a lot of ills, as does better enforcement. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

At some point McDermott needs to end this.

[CorkScrewHill]

Here is the introductions and it sounds like Booing when he is introduced ..

 

However this was in 2019 .. so I am thinking it is just people yelling Beese.

[WotAGuy]

4 minutes ago, CorkScrewHill said:

Here is the introductions and it sounds like Booing when he is introduced ..

 

However this was in 2019 .. so I am thinking it is just people yelling Beese.

Or perhaps it’s foreshadowing?

[Don Otreply]

1 hour ago, Governor said:

I forgot he was on the team. Looks like they’re phasing him out of the offense. It isn’t a good situation for Pegula when 70 percent of the country hates one of your players. 
 

Something will have to give at some point.

Now that’s just naive and silly, multi billionaires don’t give a rats azs what the you and I’s of this planet think, let alone just one country…., as long as Beasley performs at a high level he is a shoe in to stay a Bill, regardless of what you or I might believe. 
 

Go Bills!!!

[The Red King]

Persecution complex and perspective.  People see what they want to see, and Bees wanted to see (well, hear) boos, so he did.

 

Guy took a stand on the vax.  I disagree with him, but it was his call.  I never bood him, and watching him last week thought it was good the season was going and this Twitter crap was over.

 

Problem is, as I initially said, is that he's locked on his view.  He got upset and lashed out at the entire fan base, including loyal fans that shelled out money to sit through a downpour and still cheered...just because he stayed fixated on the ones that didn't.  That didn't sit well with me.

 

We're all human and lash out in the heat of the moment.  What really chafed me was after.  He had time to settle, calm and reflect on it.  He had a chance to apologize and clarify, to note there are a lot of good Bills' fans that support him, and his frustrations lie with the others.  He didn't.  He just doubled down.  Why?  Because he cannot break his fixation.  His attention is solely locked on his detractors and nothing else matters.

 

He's lost my respect and support.  I will not boo him, but I also won't shed a tear when he's gone.

Edited October 5, 2021 by The Red King

[BADOLBILZ]

2 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

to each his own, I guess. I am going to support this team no matter what. It’s the same way I would support my kid’s little league team— win or lose, I am staying positive.  
 

I guess it’s different fans have different perspectives. 

 

 

Oh.........so you also don't attend your kid's little league games? 

 

The Bills are a professional football team................pro as in PAID..........if you aren't at the games and a paying customer tangibly supporting the team then you just aren't qualified to speak on how those who do so choose to express their feelings about the team.  

 

You are the unregistered voter complaining about the election result.

 

Doesn't make you less of a fan but as Mike Leach would say.........those fans are "committed".........you are just "involved".

[Da webster guy]

17 hours ago, cDAVIS said:

Dude they are saying 'beaaaas' and they've been doing it since he was on the team. He is not getting booed.

he tweeted otherwise.

 

i thought we were all chanting Beeeeeze but I guess some are booing. 

 

 fans are as confused as Bease is.

[SirAndrew]

29 minutes ago, The Red King said:

Persecution complex and perspective.  People see what they want to see, and Bees wanted to see (well, hear) boos, so he did.

 

Guy took a stand on the vax.  I disagree with him, but it was his call.  I never bood him, and watching him last week thought it was good the season was going and this Twitter crap was over.

 

Problem is, as I initially said, is that he's locked on his view.  He got upset and lashed out at the entire fan base, including loyal fans that shelled out money to sit through a downpour and still cheered...just because he stayed fixated on the ones that didn't.  That didn't sit well with me.

 

We're all human and lash out in the heat of the moment.  What really chafed me was after.  He had time to settle, calm and reflect on it.  He had a chance to apologize and clarify, to note there are a lot of good Bills' fans that support him, and his frustrations lie with the others.  He didn't.  He just doubled down.  Why?  Because he cannot break his fixation.  His attention is solely locked on his detractors and nothing else matters.

 

He's lost my respect and support.  I will not boo him, but I also won't shed a tear when he's gone.

Focusing solely on your detractors is a classic rap move. Maybe Slim Beasley just stays in character all the time. 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

36 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Oh.........so you also don't attend your kid's little league games? 

 

The Bills are a professional football team................pro as in PAID..........if you aren't at the games and a paying customer tangibly supporting the team then you just aren't qualified to speak on how those who do so choose to express their feelings about the team.  

 

You are the unregistered voter complaining about the election result.

 

Doesn't make you less of a fan but as Mike Leach would say.........those fans are "committed".........you are just "involved".

well, I do go to games. Not a season ticket holder because of where I live. But I will get out to a game or two each year. I do seem to nonetheless drop a boatload of time and money on this team each year. 
 

That said, I am Not sure it matters whether one pays a lot of money or not. Anyone can cheer or boo. My view of a fan is that a Fan should unconditionally support the team and its players. I don’t think it has anything to do with paying money or having the right to boo— everyone has that right. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:

The Bills are a professional football team................pro as in PAID..........if you aren't at the games and a paying customer tangibly supporting the team then you just aren't qualified to speak on how those who do so choose to express their feelings about the team.  

 

You are the unregistered voter complaining about the election result.

 

Doesn't make you less of a fan but as Mike Leach would say.........those fans are "committed".........you are just "involved".

 

I can "get" the notion that the fans who are paying money to sit in the seats and support the team in person, pay for the right to express themselves as they choose.

 

Otherwise I think your analogy breaks down on several fronts.  For example, the Bills revenue, like other NFL teams, depends upon local and national revenue streams.  The Packers, which are the only team where the finances are public, earns roughly 60% (and rising rapidly) of their revenue from national streams (TV deals, NFL video, NFL licensing deals) and 40% from local revenue including tickets, concessions, and local merchandising.

 

Obviously under this model, TV viewers and consumers of NFL merchandise and video products are also tangibly supporting the team.

 

To use your analogy, they are more like the registered voter who mails in their ballot.

 

Fans at the game can express their opinion by booing, and fans not at the game can express their opinions that "Beer Bong Heroes" who choose to boo and heckle players for their expressed beliefs outside of football are "weak sticks".  If you're paying all that money to go to a game, why would you make that choice to heckle and be nasty instead of basking in the positive, while there is positive to be basked in?

 

I get the point that you're there in person with the right to express your opinion pro or con, but those at home also get their opinion.

[Gugny]

18 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I can "get" the notion that the fans who are paying money to sit in the seats and support the team in person, pay for the right to express themselves as they choose.

 

Otherwise I think your analogy breaks down on several fronts.  For example, the Bills revenue, like other NFL teams, depends upon local and national revenue streams.  The Packers, which are the only team where the finances are public, earns roughly 60% (and rising rapidly) of their revenue from national streams (TV deals, NFL video, NFL licensing deals) and 40% from local revenue including tickets, concessions, and local merchandising.

 

Obviously under this model, TV viewers and consumers of NFL merchandise and video products are also tangibly supporting the team.

 

To use your analogy, they are more like the registered voter who mails in their ballot.

 

Fans at the game can express their opinion by booing, and fans not at the game can express their opinions that "Beer Bong Heroes" who choose to boo and heckle players for their expressed beliefs outside of football are "weak sticks".  If you're paying all that money to go to a game, why would you make that choice to heckle and be nasty instead of basking in the positive, while there is positive to be basked in?

 

I get the point that you're there in person with the right to express your opinion pro or con, but those at home also get a view.

 

Same guy is on record saying that one isn't a real Bills fan unless one has season tickets and goes to every home game.  Big yawn.  He knows more about football than you.  He's a bigger Bills fan than you.  And he's smarter than you.  He's been telling everyone that for years.  

[Dr.Sack]

Beasley is a tough guy. I’ve always heard beeeaaasss. I’m sure there has been a few knuckleheads, but it’s hard to paint an entire fanbase with a broad brush. I hope this guy is alright mentally, cuz it ain’t a big deal him not being vaxxed. If I’m him I get the J&J & call it a day. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

18 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

Same guy is on record saying that one isn't a real Bills fan unless one has season tickets and goes to every home game.  Big yawn.  He knows more about football than you.  He's a bigger Bills fan than you.  And he's smarter than you.  He's been telling everyone that for years.  

 

Perhaps there are seats available for the seminar and we can learn.

[Starr Almighty]

14 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Beasley is in a Twitter convo with Mark Cuban.  It’s interesting back and forth right now.  Beasley said people right behind the bench are booing him and talking s**t telling him to get vaccinated and stuff.  
 

I don’t in any way agree with any of his tweets and comments about vaccination, but come on, on football Sunday it’s game time.  He’s a Buffalo Bill and when he’s on that field politics and differing opinions shouldn’t matter any more.  His views are stupid, but that doesn’t make him a bad person, it makes him misinformed.

 

So IMHO opinion, leave it be during the games and root for this team and everyone on it to play well.  So far, his stance hasn’t caused any issues for the team or other players other than the personal backlash he receives on social media for his ill-advised comments.  
 

So until something happens that hurts the team or the players around him, I don’t really see the need to boo or harass him during the games.

This reads like if you don't think like I do you are stupid and aren't capable of understanding something as well as I do. You know cause I'm smarter than you.

Edited October 5, 2021 by Starr Almighty

[Starr Almighty]

6 hours ago, Governor said:

I forgot he was on the team. Looks like they’re phasing him out of the offense. It isn’t a good situation for Pegula when 70 percent of the country hates one of your players. 
 

Something will have to give at some point.

Why would 70% hate him? When did we become like this? If you don't agree with me I hate you, your stupid. Really? And people are questioning his maturity?

[bmur66]

Beasley is a great player. I am glad he is a Bill. I would name my dog after him. Word to the wise Bro. Stick to football and don't get on the wrong side of the Bills Mafia. I don't think you are getting booed by anyone except maybe a drunken idiot or five.

 

Edited October 5, 2021 by bmur66

[Doc Brown]

I haven't read through this thread but my takeaway from his tweets were he's not that bright for generalizing the entire Bills fan base for a small group of hecklers in the stands.  Also, he's really naive to think he takes that big of a public stance on an extremely sensitive issue without receiving some blow back.  

 

 

[cd1]

17 hours ago, No Place To Hyde said:

...

 

Between his age, cap number and now his constant battle with common sense...dash in some amount of paranoid behavior...yea wouldn't be shocking if it expedited his departure from Buffalo. 

 

WOW - well said!

 

Beasley seems to be "tilting at windmills". (Tilting at windmills is an English idiom which means "attacking imaginary enemies", originating from Miguel de Cervantes' early 17th century novel Don Quixote.)

[oldmanfan]

Beasley has the right to express his views on vaccination as backward as they are.  Athletes express their views on social media all the time and I’m not going to say only guys that express ideas I agree with should do so.  But when any athlete does that, they have to expect blow back from fans who disagree with them.  So for him to come out and basically insult the entire Mafia because a few folks don’t like his anti-vaccines stuff is way off base.

 

I think part of this is he wasn’t targeted much Sunday.  The guy is a great player for us, went out on a broken leg in the playoffs.  He’s a competitor.  Hope he catches 10 balls against the Chiefs.  And I hope he either gets vaccinated or calm his overly aggressive social media posts.

[Ned Flanders]

I was at the game Sunday and it was definately not booing but "BEEEEEZ!"  Watching the earlier games on TV this season, it did sound like booing, but at the stadium, it sounded much differently.   

[NC-billsfan!]

10 hours ago, SCBills said:

It’s an innocent joke about Brooklyn, but I’m assuming you live near Asheville.. if so, sentiment is the same. 
 

You still haven’t answered my question. What are you implying? 

[machine gun kelly]

I’ve not read through all 28 pages, nor do I want to do so, but have read the last few.  For me, if you want to take a public stance against getting vacc., and at one point saying he wouldn’t follow his employers mandates for unvaccinated., and then act surprised there are some who are booing him, then whine on social media is creating you’re own mess.

 

I like him as a player, but he is making this a distraction for the team.  If you don’t want to get vacc., fine, but shut up for Christ’s sake.  You’ve made you’re points, and fine, that’s you’re right.  At this point, you’re just intentionally drawing attention to yourself and then complain about the attention.

 

Moving onto KC.  That’s what I care about and this conspiracy theory crap that he is being phased out is silly.  He just didn’t have the right matchup for some plays and Josh found others.  Josh wants to win and if Bease is open, Josh will throw to him.

[Billschinatown]

Imagine if I told you during the height of EJ Manuel and Kyle Orton, that we’d be one of the best teams in the league by 2021. We’d have an mvp caliber quarterback.  We’d have a defense that forced two shut outs in row.  We’d be out scoring opponents by 90+ points. 
 

and finally that we’d spend a large portion of this golden time in our lives debating a subject pertaining to the teams third best wide receiver’s feelings….literally as far as his talents go he’s not even the best rapper on the bills, I’m almost sure. 
 

I think that were just more comfortable being angry and miserable; thank god for Cole and his bull#### making us feel at home. 

[Casey D]

The irony here is that Beasley cites freedom to choose in his decision but then complains about the freedom of fans to criticize him-- if in fact a handful of fans did boo him. His position is his position on vaccines-- got it. But, you can't have it both ways.  Everyone is free to do whatever they want  no matter the consequences, or not. He needs to stick with his self-imposed twitter ban on this.

[UConn James]

17 minutes ago, Billschinatown said:

I think that were just more comfortable being angry and miserable; thank god for Cole and his bull#### making us feel at home. 

That describes about 85 percent of the population of the world now. Everyone’s angry about this or that and it’s always someone else’s fault. 🤷🏻‍♂️ 

 

4 minutes ago, Casey D said:

The irony here is that Beasley cites freedom to choose in his decision but then complains about the freedom of fans to criticize him-- if in fact a handful of fans did boo him. His position is his position on vaccines-- got it. But, you can't have it both ways.  Everyone is free to do whatever they want  no matter the consequences, or not. He needs to stick with his self-imposed twitter ban on this.

Then again, we’re on a message board where discussion of COVID gets deleted / locked / you on time-out.  And I’m not criticizing the board rules, just saying. Would that TBD policy extended to the stadium and people could just enjoy the blasted game.

[muppy]

32 minutes ago, Billschinatown said:

Imagine if I told you during the height of EJ Manuel and Kyle Orton, that we’d be one of the best teams in the league by 2021. We’d have an mvp caliber quarterback.  We’d have a defense that forced two shut outs in row.  We’d be out scoring opponents by 90+ points. 
 

and finally that we’d spend a large portion of this golden time in our lives debating a subject pertaining to the teams third best wide receiver’s feelings….literally as far as his talents go he’s not even the best rapper on the bills, I’m almost sure. 
 

I think that were just more comfortable being angry and miserable; thank god for Cole and his bull#### making us feel at home. 

lmao sorry hahaaa,,,yep still laughing

 

#TRUTH

Edited October 5, 2021 by Muppy

[transient]

Maybe he’s butt-hurt that Emmanuel Sanders is taking his catches from him and this is how he’s choosing to project his frustration. Whatever, Cole. C’est la vie. 

[SCBills]

4 hours ago, Starr Almighty said:

Why would 70% hate him? When did we become like this? If you don't agree with me I hate you, your stupid. Really? And people are questioning his maturity?

70% of the country doesn’t hate Beasley.  
 

The only people who would ever think that spend way too much time online.  

 

Twitter isn’t real life.