AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Interesting. Can Ford rebound after being humbled? I rewatched the Washington game and Ford was beyond horrible. He’s entered bust territory for me, but he’ll get another shot. Up to him what he does with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Protocal69 said: I meant for the rest of the season. I'll update the thread. Thanks I said last year that Ford was a bust and everyone laughed, it was a massive mistake taking Ford over Metcalf. FORD=BUST and only reason why he is still on this team is because he was a second round pick. Edited October 4, 2021 by Niagara Dude 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Spencer is so strong when he gets his hands on a lineman, they don't usually go too far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said: It’s like with alligators. Run in zig zags. Better go for a straight line dash... Can you beat his 4.4 shuttle or 6.96 3-cone? He's on par with some of our most agile guys. 1 hour ago, Might Rather said: I'm also a short person and I think I'm pretty fast but I wouldn't want him to catch me....bet he's fast for his size Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 I loved when he threw Moss forward for about 3 yards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Are there any guards out there on bad teams worth trying to trade for? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 hour ago, WideNine said: I think Williams was still an upgrade to Ford at guard - for now. We will see who they roll out next week. I never hate on our players, don't really like that phrase, but Ford has been struggling mightily at RG and LG when he manned that position last season. I want all out players to succeed, but have always had concerns with his foot speed and his ability to play over his base with good balance and leverage. This past draft they really focused on OL players with above average athletic speed, foot work, and balance. Early indications on those prospects are positive. Ford is a bust and people need to accept that he is not very good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 As long as Ford stays out of the lineup against KC, I will be happy. I liked the look we had today, so why not roll with it next week? Mongo or Ike at LG is fine with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaggersEOD Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) I don’t think that having the Veteran RT line up next to the raw Rookie RT was an accident. He should be able to keep Brown from making rookie mistakes and show him the inside info Vets pick up throughout the game. As long as he’s not a liability, I’d like to keep Williams at RG until Brown gets some more game reps. Edited October 4, 2021 by DaggersEOD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I think I'd leave him in. Not sure I'd leave Williams in at guard though. On tv viewing I didn't think he was great. Will wait to see what the all 22 shows. I think I'd start Feliciano and Ike at guard. Agreed here even with Williams not playing great guard the line look better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 There was a glimmer in McD's eye in the press conference when he got asked about Brown and responded about making decisions to make the team better. He's there to stay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I think I'd leave him in. Not sure I'd leave Williams in at guard though. On tv viewing I didn't think he was great. Will wait to see what the all 22 shows. I think I'd start Feliciano and Ike at guard. How about Bates at center? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: How about Bates at center? yea like. put morse at guard. explore all options with this line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WideNine Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 3 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: FU Brown….I’m 5”10. Sorry for all the vertically challenged out there. They are going to be hating on Spencer. All I could think of watching that clip was... images (1).mp4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Agreed, Brown RT Williams RG was better combo even though Williams is much worse at G than T. Ford is so bad he's forcing other people to switch positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 34 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: Agreed, Brown RT Williams RG was better combo even though Williams is much worse at G than T. Ford is so bad he's forcing other people to switch positions. and they'll get better quickly now that they've got a little film on themselves playing in the new spot. Kudos to McD for finally giving up on the Cody Ford forcefeed project. He was a miss, lets move forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 4 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: FU Brown….I’m 5”10. Now now. I'm taller though still a shorty compared to him. I don't think he was singling out all 5" 10 guys. Just the one trying to mouth off to him. But that went right over your head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Two things are obvious. The coaches have lost faith in Cody Ford and like many of us, they think Williams' future is at G. Brown looked good today, but it was only 1 game. Hopefully he'll be great. I'm still not sold on Boettger, but as depth, he's fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 5 hours ago, JohnNord said: That’s the plan…the line played much better with Brown at RT and you’d think putting Feliciano in over Boettger might be a small upgrade too. Williams should hopefully settle into RG Boettger is a better run blocker than Feliciano and has been improving every year unlike Feliciano. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 48 minutes ago, GreggTX said: Two things are obvious. The coaches have lost faith in Cody Ford and like many of us, they think Williams' future is at G. Brown looked good today, but it was only 1 game. Hopefully he'll be great. I'm still not sold on Boettger, but as depth, he's fine. I’m cool with Brown staying at RT but I hope that doesn’t mean Williams stays at G. He’s simply not good playing inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 6 hours ago, Protocal69 said: (Googles where to buy spencer brown jersey) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 5 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: How about Bates at center? I think Morse is playing well. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 He's going to be a dominant tackle. But we have both tackles signed long term. I'd look to trade Williams asap and let Brown ball out. 27 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think Morse is playing well. Morse has been phenomenal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 12 hours ago, JerseyBills said: He's going to be a dominant tackle. But we have both tackles signed long term. I'd look to trade Williams asap and let Brown ball out. You need 3 good OTs. Trading away Williams, unless they get a great offer for him or someone like Tommy Doyle proves to be a good swing tackle, wouldn't be smart. He's scheduled to make (just) $7.125M in each of the next 2 seasons. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Doc said: You need 3 good OTs. Trading away Williams, unless they get a great offer for him or someone like Tommy Doyle proves to be a good swing tackle, wouldn't be smart. He's scheduled to make (just) $7.125M in each of the next 2 seasons. I totally forgot he started at RG. As long as he's playing too at a high level there im fine with it. The line as a whole looked great ,really popped off the screen in the run game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: I totally forgot he started at RG. As long as he's playing too at a high level there im fine with it. The line as a whole looked great ,really popped off the screen in the run game That remains to be seen. But as a RT, he's definitely worth keeping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mat68 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Brown looks like a very good OT. His length and athleticism will give any edge rusher a problem. He gets after people as a run blocker. Gets to the second level with ease. I dont know how you take him off the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Summary Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 22 hours ago, aceman_16 said: Glad he didn't get a taunting penalty there. I think he was close a few times. Just a kid getting his first start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) Think I read the Right side will not change. And it is Brown at RT and Williams at RG for Sunday Night. I did. Here is Sal Edited October 4, 2021 by MAJBobby 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 I saw Brown on a few occasions doing real good stuff. I real liked when I saw him down field blocking, his superior athleticism was noticed. Great to see he got some real game reps, and the future is looking bright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 I haven't studied film and I didn't watch the interior line during the game, but I like Brown at right tackle and Williams at right guard. The way McDermott views it, he's going to play his five best linemen, and I think Brown has shown he's in the top five. And I think that Williams actually will fit well at guard. I think he gives the Bills more power at the position, which should help their zone blocking schemes. Plus, the one thing that has bothered me about Williams at tackle is that he doesn't have that quick first step to the right to cut off the wide rusher. Brown has it. Inside, Williams is quick enough to slide right or left to help on the double teams either way. The question is whether he can pull on the traps and get in position to make some of the seal blocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Brown played well enough to get himself on top of the RT hill. Now I hope he plays well enough to stay there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) Ive not read the entire thread excuse me if this was mentioned. Should we all be using the Texans as the benchmark on his ability to play and start?... what about against better personnel on other teams? Maybe maybe not. There will be an NFL learning curve so is he ready for full time duty? It would be great if he excelled starting moving forward. Im not sure its a given as some fans would suppose. Only McDermots opinion matters. Edited October 4, 2021 by Muppy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 2 hours ago, MAJBobby said: Think I read the Right side will not change. And it is Brown at RT and Williams at RG for Sunday Night. I did. Here is Sal So Feliciano is benched too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: So Feliciano is benched too? Sounds like it. Personally, I never noticed much of a difference between him and Boettger. Both were mediocre. At least Ike is younger and has a better chance to improve. Edited October 5, 2021 by vincec 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 On 10/3/2021 at 6:20 PM, Protocal69 said: I meant for the rest of the season. I'll update the thread. Thanks Don’t listen to him lol he suffers with reading comprehension 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Here's a quick 3 minute cut up with commentary on about 20 or so of Brown's reps against the Texans. 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Depth Chart now shows Spencer Brown as starting RT, Williams RG, and Feliciano starting LG. https://www.buffalobills.com/team/depth-chart 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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