Lv-Bills Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 1 hour ago, BillsPride12 said: Not really. ESPN has gone way downhill. Not even a shell of itself anymore so much as being a completely different brand than it was when I was growing up. The only good thing associated with ESPN are the 30 for 30s. It's amazing for a network that has gone so far downhill.....that they can produce some of the best documentaries with the 30 for 30s. They are the one amazing constant on a network that sucks, other than live sporting events. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 1 hour ago, sistersarah said: I was a big watcher of first "Mike & Mike" then later with "Golic & Wingo", Enjoyed the shows very much but when they let Golic go, promoted Greenburg, and changed hosts the network lost me. I was wondering if anyone watches and have you seen how the ratings are. I can't believe for the life of me how Greenburg has a prominent role on the network. Also what pregame show do most people watch? Can't stomach Rex, I mainly watch CBS NFL Today. Thanks! I haven't watched sports shows of that type in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 I usually listen to podcasts cable tv has gone real downhill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 1 hour ago, NewEra said: The only espn talk shows I watch nowadays are bills related clips from YouTube. 1 hour ago, PrimeTime101 said: same and even then at times I can only stomach watching a little of it And a lot of the time the YouTube clips aren't even related to the Bills but have a title like "this person AMAZED by bills performance" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said: I usually listen to podcasts cable tv has gone real downhill Same. I like Move The Sticks and Pardon My Take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, The Wiz said: And a lot of the time the YouTube clips aren't even related to the Bills but have a title like "this person AMAZED by bills performance" You learn which sites not to click on after awhile Edited September 28, 2021 by NewEra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkScrewHill Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Similar to MTV which no longer plays music, espn got away from what they were great at .. sports and fun highlight shows. Now it about shock statements which are quickly forgotten when they don't come through and harped on as if they were Nostradamus if they happen to get one correct. they go for the low hanging click-bait (the Bills were a one hit wonder .. the Bills are amazing; Lamar jackson is the second coming / Lamar Jackson will never be a QB). They hit both sides so everyone can be shocked and upset at something. Then fans click to see the person admit their mistake and they double down getting even more clicks. They do not have to be right (certainly not Wright) .. they just have to be outlandish. Oh and they need to tell me how to think and live .. otherwise it is great. My advise watch the sporting events and skip all of their talk shows. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 I've stopped all pregame/post-game watching at all. Even the superbowl gets started about 30 mins later so I can fast forward some of it. Too much garbage from the talking heads. I come on here and watch clips after the games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, NewEra said: You learn which sites not to click on after awhile Yea I know. There are only 3 or 4 that I know for sure are related now that I will watch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Would rather electrocute myself 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, K-9 said: Not since they got rid of the ‘Kiana’s Flex Appeal’ and ‘Body Shaping’ exercise shows. I loved Keelin Curnuck and Shawnae Jebbia. Edited September 28, 2021 by Another Fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 50 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Nope. Greenberg is too much of a Jets homer. NODODY should be a Jets homer. I saw a few clips of Greenberg here at TBD during pre-season going on and on about how great Zach Wilson was playing and he was to be the best rookie QB and how spectacular he was, blah blah blah. I wonder what he is saying now that blowhard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Haven't watched an ESPN show since they canned Sports Reporters, the last show that had any intelligent discussion about sports. ESPN programming is stale and the on-air personalities are neither likable nor all that talented. It is the Sears of cable TV, doomed to end sooner rather than later in a cost cutting move. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 I don't like any ESPN shows. The constant shouting in the hope that it's what viewers want just doesn't do it for me. The worst is Stephen A Smith. Now there's a guy whose popularity I'll never understand. Clearly doesn't watch the games and just screams as loud as he can about nothing in particular. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 No way. ESPN has lost the plot. I like the Cover1 guys and a few independent NFL analysts. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Starr Almighty said: The question should of been does anyone watch ESPN? The answer would be No not in the morning, afternoon or evening. 1 hour ago, TampaBillsJunkie said: No. ESPN sucks. Be very careful, you might piss off the wrong person... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 PFT is the best morning show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Nope. NFL or MLB network depending on where we are in the seasons. ESPN morning schedule is unwatchable. I miss the days where they just repeated the 2am SportsCenter all morning long...you know, when SportsCenter was mostly made up of highlights, not opinions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 What the hell is an ESPN and what the hell is a morning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BisonMan Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 (edited) Four pages and I’m the first to admit I watch an ESPN morning show (occasionally). I watch Get Up during football season sometimes. I really like Dan Orlosky and Ryan Clark, who frequent the show. This segment on the Bears coaching was spot on and Clark was funny. I even laughed at Rex’s comments. On the Jets last week, Greenberg was funny saying, “I can’t believe I’m saying these 5 words, ‘I miss Adam Gase!’” Yes, he’s a total Jets homer but he’s very open about it. Edited September 28, 2021 by BisonMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 2 hours ago, sistersarah said: I was a big watcher of first "Mike & Mike" then later with "Golic & Wingo", Enjoyed the shows very much Why? Genuinely curious. It's drivel made for casual fans and to be put on at bus stations and waiting rooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLO Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Going back to the Bills early 90s SB era I would consume alot of ESPN pre and postgame NFL shows, Sportscenter, etc, started dropping off in the 2000s. First Take when they had Dana Jacobsen and Jay Crawford was regular viewing for me but when they decided to center it on Skip Bayless and Stephen A I just couldnt anymore. Skip with his Dallas ballwashing and strange, almost creepy obsession with Tim Tebow, I was done. I will tune in occasionally for the lovely Laura Rutledge and Mina Kimes on NFL Live though but dont go out of my way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 1 minute ago, JLO said: Going back to the Bills early 90s SB era I would consume alot of ESPN pre and postgame NFL shows, Sportscenter, etc, started dropping off in the 2000s. First Take when they had Dana Jacobsen and Jay Crawford was regular viewing for me but when they decided to center it on Skip Bayless and Stephen A I just couldnt anymore. Skip with his Dallas ballwashing and strange, almost creepy obsession with Tim Tebow, I was done. I will tune in occasionally for the lovely Laura Rutledge and Mina Kimes on NFL Live though but dont go out of my way. Thank you for not buying the Mets with A-Rod. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 I listen to ESPN radio more than I watch it on TV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 They have a morning show? When they brought Keyshawn in, I stopped listening to them in the morning. He is just unbearable. I tried, but just could not do it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 I can't watch ESPN re-cap and opion shows hardly at all anymore. The only one I tune into is pardon the interruption. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 2 hours ago, golfball323 said: not when I can watch Kay Adams on GMFB This! When Kay is on, you watch Kay. Kyle is okay too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epictetus Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 No. Not since I retired 5 years ago. Not that I cared one way or another what they thought about the Buffalo Bills, but I needed something ignorable to listen to on my long commute to and from work. Mina Kimes does have a charming smile, but that alone is not enough to tune into ESPN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLO Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Virgil said: This! When Kay is on, you watch Kay. Kyle is okay too NFL Network has the best eye candy... Kay, Collen Wolfe, Cynthia Frelund Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realist Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Only time I watch ESPN is for Monday Night Football and the occasional college football game. Haven't watched any programming on ESPN in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 No. Bunch of trolls of fan boys. Will watch the few clips about the Bills on YouTube if I'm desperate for content 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gomper Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 30 for 30 and live games. The rest is just noise. I know people love GMF but it's just too loud and obnoxious for me. Especially that early. As far as pre-game, I usually watch NFL Matchup off the DVR at 12:30 and the lock in the Bills game and the RedZone . Last Sunday was amazing on RedZone. Greatest channel ever. God bless them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 55 minutes ago, BisonMan said: Four pages and I’m the first to admit I watch an ESPN morning show (occasionally). I watch Get Up during football season sometimes. I really like Dan Orlosky and Ryan Clark, who frequent the show. This segment on the Bears coaching was spot on and Clark was funny. I even laughed at Rex’s comments. On the Jets last week, Greenberg was funny saying, “I can’t believe I’m saying these 5 words, ‘I miss Adam Gase!’” Yes, he’s a total Jets homer but he’s very open about it. Wrecks looks well. Good restaurants there? 🤔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 whats ESPN? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 All these shows seem to work on the following formula: - 2 or more alpha males argue and disagree about every subject, no matter what it is - 1 attractive woman with huge breasts asks the questions - Lots and lots and lots of hot takes and wild opinions 4 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 I watch PMS and then pretty much just Parrino & Talbots webisodes. National media just wants to talk about stuff I could not care less about. If there is anything interesting it usually pops up on my twitter feed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, sistersarah said: I was a big watcher of first "Mike & Mike" then later with "Golic & Wingo", Enjoyed the shows very much but when they let Golic go, promoted Greenburg, and changed hosts the network lost me. I was wondering if anyone watches and have you seen how the ratings are. I can't believe for the life of me how Greenburg has a prominent role on the network. Also what pregame show do most people watch? Can't stomach Rex, I mainly watch CBS NFL Today. Thanks! Thanks for the topic. Mike and Mike was always a backup option on morning radio for me. Essentially, they were a recap show if you didn't stay up and watch the night before. It's part of the reason I gravitated towards Colin Cowherd. Because he doesn't spend much time breaking down individual games. He focuses more on team building and league trends. I also listened to some of Lebatard when he was on ESPN because the show brought some originality, but usually the show featured too much Stugotz. Mike Golic was the reasonable, Midwest guy. Greenberg was the guy that never played sports, nerdy, dramatic. He was never my favorite listen, because he didn't have any theories as to why things unfolded the way the did, or predictions for the future. Same with Tre Wingo, I was happy to see him get booted from the show. Like Van Pelt, nothing interesting to say. Now ESPN has nobody in their lineup that I want to listen to. I don't need another dose of Greenberg in the afternoon, or Max Kellerman. Keyshawn is loud, Jason Williams was a bust, and we all know Stephen A. They're thin, and have been in decline for awhile. Fox Sports has finally come to a point where they aren't as dependent on Jim Rome wannabees. Guys like JT the Brick, Ben Maller, Tom Looney, all of those guys still think it's the Smack Off. Dan Patrick is a snooze fest, his show is repetitive and geared towards 60 year olds. Clay Travis was borderline ok, if you could stomach his self-congratulations every day and hatred of LeBron James. So on radio, nationally, really the only show I listen to is Colin Cowherd. I don't mind clips from the Odd Couple with Broussard and Parker. Pregame, I don't watch until the ball is kicked off. All of that stuff is noise. Old players stuck in the past, overrating how good they were, a lot of useless clichés, and everything is geared towards glamour stories. Can Brady win an 8th? Dak/Cowboys. Aaron Rodgers drama. LA is alive again with the Rams and Chargers. Can Mahomes become the GOAT (always obsessed with that acronym)? Constant ranking. I generally listen to more local and can't say I learn any more or less from them, than the national guys. Edited September 28, 2021 by Straight Hucklebuck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 sometimes I watch the first half of MNF games, or all of Bills games...almost nothing else. I have put on SC recently, man that sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 I woke up to Mike and Mike for about ten years, then Golic and Wingo till they went off the air. I get their thinking, they want to attract younger listeners. From what I remember was the same argument when the Bills radio broadcast went to was it 97 Rock in Buffalo and WCMF in Rochester. But the problem today more than ever with this younger listener argument is younger listeners likely all have unlimited data on their phones and stream everything likely some podcast or some remote station someplace, not ESPN. It's just more the older crowd who is used to listening to the radio who'll tune in, but not likely as much for the current crew. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumpsuit Jim Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Haven’t really watched ESPN since the days of Kickboxing and Beach Volleyball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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