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Our Solution for the Offense....Josh Gordon


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What number do you think is higher? The number of current Bills players who have played for the Panthers, or the number of suspensions in Josh Gordon's career?

 

If Gordon had one suspension and this was 2012-2013, then yes.

 

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Greg S said:

The solution for this offense will have to come in the offseason. No matter how this year plays out Beane must improve the OL. Last year it was average at best but Allen's ability to escape the rush made them look better. If game 1 is any indication it will be more of the same especially against physical defenses. 

Basically the same line that protected Josh last year.....

 

The sky is not falling.

 

We allowed a STs TD and lost by seven.....

 

I repeat, the sky is not falling.

 

Bring on the fish!

 

Squish the Fish!

 

Go Bills!

 

 

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2 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

Look at this dude!  We don't have a receiver on the roster who brings to the game what Josh does, when he's healthy and tuned into the program.  

 

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For now, he'll fall off the wagon sooner than later. I'm all forgiving guys a second chance but he's far too many. 

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4 hours ago, aristocrat said:

 

I love his talent but how times has he blown it? hard pass.  

1 hour ago, The Jokeman said:

For now, he'll fall off the wagon sooner than later. I'm all forgiving guys a second chance but he's far too many. 

Should signed Sammy Watkins,  Josh Gordon is bound to screw up again and that leaves your team in a bad spot

3 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

If I was somehow able to interview him and do a deep investigation into where he's at in his life right now, and conclude that he has turned a corner and has his troubles in check, I would LOVE him on this team.

 

He's a freak of natural talent.

 

The concern would be that he hasn't really changed.

 

I'd also LOVE Richie Incognito back, subject to the same set of concerns.

 

He seems to back on his meds and/or off the bottle, whatever his problem was.

 

 

He is good but no freak and not worth the problems he brings

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4 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

He was DK Metcalf before DK Metcalf.

 

That 2013 season was one of the greatest ever by a receiver......1646 yards........with a bunch of scrub Cleveland Browns QB's.

 

At the time it was the 10th most receiving yardage in a season ever and it's still 15th..........and he did that in what is still the second fewest amount of catches among that group because he averaged a crazy 18.9 ypr...........and the guy with the fewest was Charlie Hennigan in 1961.........so in the SB era that Josh Gordon season is still simply epic.

And he did that in 14-games 

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31 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

And he did that in 14-games 

He was very good that year...8 years ago, 5 or 6 suspensions ago, multiple teams ago, and many chances on the NFL stage to show both the talent and a burning commitment to win for himself and his team.

 

That boat sailed by multiple times ago.

 

As others have said, if he can get QB pressure, lockdown a top TE, make 4 and 1 decisions, or teach someone on the team to play guard well, then sign him.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

If I was somehow able to interview him and do a deep investigation into where he's at in his life right now, and conclude that he has turned a corner and has his troubles in check, I would LOVE him on this team.

 

He's a freak of natural talent.

 

The concern would be that he hasn't really changed.

 

I'd also LOVE Richie Incognito back, subject to the same set of concerns.

 

He seems to back on his meds and/or off the bottle, whatever his problem was.

 

 

 

That's a massive "If..."

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14 hours ago, Greg S said:

The solution for this offense will have to come in the offseason. No matter how this year plays out Beane must improve the OL. Last year it was average at best but Allen's ability to escape the rush made them look better. If game 1 is any indication it will be more of the same especially against physical defenses. 


I disagree.  There were many times last year that Josh stood in the pocket with no pressure.  I recall a few times that he had so much time I rewound to see how long and it was 8 to 9 seconds.  Against Pittsburgh, he didn’t have as much time. Their stunts were confusing the blockers at times and other times they just got beat.

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12 hours ago, billybrew1 said:

Basically the same line that protected Josh last year.....

 

The sky is not falling.

 

We allowed a STs TD and lost by seven.....

 

I repeat, the sky is not falling.

 

Bring on the fish!

 

Squish the Fish!

 

Go Bills!

 

 

 

I agree the sky isn't falling and I still expect the Bills to get around 11-13 wins. I think its Allen who protected the OL with his scrambling and ability to avoid the rush. Our run game wasn't very good last year either. This is a discussion more for the offseason than now but I hope Beane looks to improve the OL for 2022. My pick for this week is 24-20 Bills and they will be in a 3 way tie for first around 4:00 Sunday afternoon. Since the division is playing each other who do we want in the other game Pats or Jets? For me I live in NJ so I deal with obnoxious Jets fans all time. Wouldn't mind seeing them drop to 0-2 just to shut those ****er's up even though I hate NE as well.

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15 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

Look at this dude!  We don't have a receiver on the roster who brings to the game what Josh does, when he's healthy and tuned into the program.  

 

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FFS, Patrick Stewart looked buff for his role in 'ST: First Contact'.  Get us a today picture. 🤨

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On the other hand, legal cannabis is only a short drive from WNY.  Might sway his decision...😁

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9 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

And the problem is very much not the receivers.

Well, in a way it is.  We ran way more 4 and 5 WR sets than usual, which I believe was part of our problem.  We let the fact that we had so many good WR's take us out of our normal formations.  I am hoping Daboll adjusts going forward. They will all get their chances if the Offense stays on the field.  

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I would be 

On 9/15/2021 at 8:43 AM, Limeaid said:

He belongs in Tampa with bad boys.

 

Addiction makes you a bad boy?

 

Would love taking a shot on Gordon. I mean I like Kumerow...but I'd rather have Gordon's potential on the roster

 

Would hope this community has more empathy for someone who's clearly struggling and trying overcome addiction. I mean he's been afflicted with anxiety and the resulting addiction to self medication since middle school and high school - and at Baylor? Rather then helping him, they enabled him - helping him to cheat drug tests and such. 

 

You're talking about someone who's basically lived poor, with gangs, and was never helped until he was a professional - and in fact enabled by people who should have been helping. 

 

This isn't condoning his harm to others either. Just simple empathy towards someone who's struggled for a lot of different reasons

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On 9/14/2021 at 4:21 PM, aristocrat said:

 


There’s no point in signing Josh Gordon.  I’m not really sure if better than any of the top 5 WR’s on the roster at this point in his career, and he doesn’t play special teams.  
 

IMO a perfect addition (on paper) is Richie Incognito.  He’s a solid veteran guard and has largely been praised as a teammate since leaving Buffalo.  His play is good and he would help mentor some of our younger players.  

Of course reality is he left the Bills on terrible terms, and I can’t see the Bills trusting him enough to bring him in.  Also it wouldn’t make sense for Oakland to trade him.  
 

But a player like that is what the offense needs before a Josh Gordon 

 

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