Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 17 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: I don't believe in gentleman's agreements when money in on the line. Hollister is now allowed to negotiate with any team. It could cost the Bills more than 550k than what they were going to pay Hollister. What does this mean? You don't believe they occur? Bills did them 2x last cutdown day, with Roberts and Dean Marlowe. Or you don't think they're a good idea? Part of what makes them fly is that the re-signed player gets something for it - a bit more signing bonus, salary guarantees as if they'd been on the 53 If Hollister is offered a better contract to go elsewhere, I'm sure part of the deal is his agent will call the Bills and give them the chance to match 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Expect him to be inactive every week. He’s nowhere close to being ready. I think you're just jealous of him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Expect him to be inactive every week. He’s nowhere close to being ready. It's possible after the 53-man is set, he might slide onto IR to finish healing that knee in favor of a signing from another team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) Buffalo Bills RB Kerrith Whyte WR Rico Gafford WR Lance Lenoir WR Tanner Gentry WR Duke Williams WR Brandon Powell TE Bug Howard TE Quintin Morris OG Steven Gonzalez OG Forrest Lamp OL Caleb Benenoch OL Tyler Gauthier OL Marquell Harrell OL Syrus Tuitele OL Jack Anderson DL Eli Ankou DT Joey Ivie LB Tyrell Adams LB Mike Bell DB Tim Harris S Tariq Thompson according to CBS Edited August 31, 2021 by Pete 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 42 minutes ago, Ta111 said: Again, it’s about the vested vet rule. Hollister doesn’t go through waivers. They already have a deal with him to resign tomorrow. This happens all the time. It’s about roster management. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 14 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I was really hoping they would find a way to stash him on IR. His injury against Chicago was probably way too minor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 19 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: I don't believe in gentleman's agreements when money in on the line. Hollister is now allowed to negotiate with any team. It could cost the Bills more than 550k than what they were going to pay Hollister. Sure - i'm not sure anyone else can guarantee him playing time with an all-pro QB that he personally knows quite well. He also spent an entire camp here and feels good about playbook, role, etc. It'd be a rather large risk to squeeze an extra couple hundred K out of bufflao/another team. This is probably his best chance at a good pay day next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaFitz1 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) On 8/30/2021 at 11:17 AM, YoloinOhio said: They begin [Mod Edit to put current info in the OP] As of Sun 9:15 pm 1 trade (Bam Johnson) As of Monday 9:30 am: Jack Anderson OG (possible PS) Jamil Douglas OG Kerryith White RB Antonio Williams RB (possible PS) Tanner Gentry WR (possible PS) Brandon Powell WR Steven Sims WR Nate Becker TE Jacob Hollister TE 👀👀 Quinton Morris TE (possible PS) Tim Harris CB Cam Lewis CB Roster currently at 68 Sal's roster that he seems to be trying to keep up to date https://twitter.com/SalSports/status/1432389619660771345?s=20 So the depth chart as it stands now: WR - Emmanuel Sanders, Gabriel Davis, Isaiah Hodgins LT - Dion Dawkins, Spencer Brown, Tommy Doyle LG -Jon Feliciano, Jordan Devey C - Mitch Morse, Ryan Bates RG - Cody Ford, Ike Boettger RT - Daryl Williams, Bobby Hart TE - Dawson Knox, Tommy Sweeney QB - Josh Allen, Mitchell Trubisky, Davis Webb, Jake Fromm RB - Devin Singletary, Zack Moss, Matt Breida, Taiwan Jones, Christian Wade (roster exemption) FB - Reggie Gilliam WR - Cole Beasley, Isaiah McKenzie WR - Stefon Diggs, Jake Kumerow, Marquez Stevenson Offense - 31 (counting Wade) LDE - Jerry Hughes, Greg Rousseau, Efe Obada DT - Ed Oliver, Justin Zimmer, Brandin Bryant, Treyvon Hester DT - Star Lotulelei, Vernon Butler, Harrison Phillips RDE - Mario Addison, A.J. Epenesa, Boogie Basham, Mike Love MLB - Tremaine Edmunds, Tyrel Dodson, Tyler Matakevich, Marquel Lee WLB - Matt Milano, A.J. Klein, Andre Smith, Joe Giles-Harris NCB - Taron Johnson, Siran Neal CB - Tre'Davious White, Rachad Wildgoose, Nick McCloud CB - Levi Wallace, Dane Jackson, Olaijah Griffin S - Jordan Poyer, Damar Hamlin, Josh Thomas S - Micah Hyde, Jaquan Johnson Defense - 35 Special Teams - 3 Total - 69 (counting Wade) Looks like defense and QBs have the next round of cuts Edited August 31, 2021 by FlaFitz1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 21 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: I don't believe in gentleman's agreements when money in on the line. Hollister is now allowed to negotiate with any team. It could cost the Bills more than 550k than what they were going to pay Hollister. Hollister is a prime candidate for this though, I can't imagine he'd get much more from anywhere else plus he has to know that he's going to get plenty of playing time here so that's not going to be a factor either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: I think you're just jealous of him. Nuh uh..my mommy said I can still grow up to be a big boy just like him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) All this hand wringing about Jacob Hollister? He's an alright player but nothing earth shattering. The most catches he ever had in a game is 8. The most yards he has ever had in a game is 64. He has 6 tds in 4 years. I get the Josh connection and perhaps he does come back after some maneuvering, but this isn't a huge loss if that doesn't happen. Here is a knox/Hollister comparison Knox: 52 catches, 676 yards, 5 tds in 2 years Hollister: 74 catches, 652 yards (!), and 6 tds Hollister has played with Russ Wilson and Brady so he didn't have scrubs throwing it to him either... Edit: Seeing the current TE depth chart, I imagine Sweeney goes to IR after making the 53 and Hollister is re-signed as others have said. Edited August 31, 2021 by section122 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Just now, section122 said: All this hand wringing about Jacob Hollister? He's an alright player but nothing earth shattering. The most catches he ever had in a game is 8. The most yards he has ever had in a game is 64. He has 6 tds in 4 years. I get the Josh connection and perhaps he does come back after some maneuvering, but this isn't a huge loss if that doesn't happen. Here is a knox/Hollister comparison Knox: 52 catches, 676 yards, 5 tds in 2 years Hollister: 74 catches, 652 yards (!), and 6 tds Hollister has played with Russ Wilson and Brady so he didn't have scrubs throwing it to him either... Well, he looked good in preseason, the Josh connection isn't nothing, and the current compliment of healthy TEs is Knox and the FB Gilliam. The concern is not ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Just now, Dr. Who said: Well, he looked good in preseason, the Josh connection isn't nothing, and the current compliment of healthy TEs is Knox and the FB Gilliam. The concern is not ridiculous. Yeah I edited while you were responding. I didn't see the additional TE cuts. I think this was just done to move Sweeney to IR before Hollister is re-signed. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 8 minutes ago, Pete said: Buffalo Bills RB Kerrith Whyte WR Rico Gafford WR Lance Lenoir WR Tanner Gentry WR Duke Williams WR Brandon Powell TE Bug Howard TE Quintin Morris OG Steven Gonzalez OG Forrest Lamp OL Caleb Benenoch OL Tyler Gauthier OL Marquell Harrell OL Syrus Tuitele OL Jack Anderson DL Eli Ankou DT Joey Ivie LB Tyrell Adams LB Mike Bell DB Tim Harris S Tariq Thompson according to CBS Thanks for the simple summary. The list looks a lot like the Jeopardy answer to: Who are a bunch of football players you’ve never heard of. (Partly kidding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, section122 said: Yeah I edited while you were responding. I didn't see the additional TE cuts. I think this was just done to move Sweeney to IR before Hollister is re-signed. Yes, I actually posted on the generic scenario and agreed with the Sweeney IR likelihood upthread. Your tone did not make sense to me, but understandable if you were ignorant concerning the other TE cuts. I like Becker, so I hope we bring him back to PS. Edited August 31, 2021 by Dr. Who Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Stevenson left the game against Green Bay injured. I think they must feel good that one of Stevenson and Isaiah is good to go.... doesn't necessarily mean both are to me. Wasn't Stevenson a "head injury" possible concussion I assumed, so usually not out more than 2 to 3 weeks at most. And if he was still suffering from concussion after 3 weeks, then he might want to be thinking of a different profession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mat68 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 15 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Expect him to be inactive every week. He’s nowhere close to being ready. Agreed. He atleast has a shot. By mid season working on one position I think he will be alright if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 15 minutes ago, Pete said: Buffalo Bills RB Kerrith Whyte WR Rico Gafford WR Lance Lenoir WR Tanner Gentry WR Duke Williams WR Brandon Powell TE Bug Howard TE Quintin Morris OG Steven Gonzalez OG Forrest Lamp OL Caleb Benenoch OL Tyler Gauthier OL Marquell Harrell OL Syrus Tuitele OL Jack Anderson DL Eli Ankou DT Joey Ivie LB Tyrell Adams LB Mike Bell DB Tim Harris S Tariq Thompson according to CBS Bobby Hart is still alive YES!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Or Beetlejuice! Or Biggie Smalls 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 8 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: Well, he looked good in preseason, the Josh connection isn't nothing, and the current compliment of healthy TEs is Knox and the FB Gilliam. The concern is not ridiculous. Right but it takes two to tango. If someone comes calling he can just say- im going back to buffalo. I assume he knows the plan here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 On 8/30/2021 at 11:17 AM, YoloinOhio said: They begin [Mod Edit to put current info in the OP] As of Sun 9:15 pm 1 trade (Bam Johnson) As of Monday 9:30 am: Jack Anderson OG (possible PS) Jamil Douglas OG Kerryith White RB Antonio Williams RB (possible PS) Tanner Gentry WR (possible PS) Brandon Powell WR Steven Sims WR Nate Becker TE Jacob Hollister TE 👀👀 Quinton Morris TE (possible PS) Tim Harris CB Cam Lewis CB Roster currently at 68 Sal's roster that he seems to be trying to keep up to date https://twitter.com/SalSports/status/1432389619660771345?s=20 I would consider Cam Lewis a PS candidate as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: So it looks like only one draft pick (Anderson) might not make the roster? Wildgoose is a question mark too, but has a good shoot with Cam out. Pretty impressive on a deep roster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Well for today at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 18 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I was really hoping they would find a way to stash him on IR. His injury against Chicago was probably way too minor. I hear ya, but the problem with putting him IR is that he can't practice at any point all year. Hard for him to improve much without being able to practice. He can still work on the mental aspects of the game, but I don't know how much that'll help him improve just on its own. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, SWATeam said: So it looks like only one draft pick (Anderson) might not make the roster? Wildgoose is a question mark too, but has a good shoot with Cam out. Pretty impressive on a deep roster. I would keep Olaijah over wild goose. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, wjag said: Well for today at least. Hamlin is making the roster regardless dude has been solid and a playmaker so far. Loved the guy coming out and he hasn’t disappointed 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaFitz1 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, Cash said: I hear ya, but the problem with putting him IR is that he can't practice at any point all year. Hard for him to improve much without being able to practice. He can still work on the mental aspects of the game, but I don't know how much that'll help him improve just on its own. An unlimited number of players can return from a team’s injured reserve list, and they are eligible after missing a minimum of only three games. After three weeks, the player becomes eligible to return to practice. Once he returns to practice, the team has 21 days to place him back on the active roster. Previously, a team had only two IR-return designations it could use in a season and a player was required to miss a minimum of eight weeks. Only players on the 53-player roster after Sept. 1 are eligible to be designated for return from IR or the non-football injury list. In other words the same modfied IR rules as last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 11 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Bobby Hart is still alive YES!! Only 5 fresh cuts rest are from previous cut downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syhuang Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Just now, FlaFitz1 said: An unlimited number of players can return from a team’s injured reserve list, and they are eligible after missing a minimum of only three games. After three weeks, the player becomes eligible to return to practice. Once he returns to practice, the team has 21 days to place him back on the active roster. Previously, a team had only two IR-return designations it could use in a season and a player was required to miss a minimum of eight weeks. Only players on the 53-player roster after Sept. 1 are eligible to be designated for return from IR or the non-football injury list. In other words the same modfied IR rules as last season. The post you replied to seems to mean putting him in IR before roster cut to 53. In that case, players can not return from IR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 12 minutes ago, FlaFitz1 said: An unlimited number of players can return from a team’s injured reserve list, and they are eligible after missing a minimum of only three games. After three weeks, the player becomes eligible to return to practice. Once he returns to practice, the team has 21 days to place him back on the active roster. Previously, a team had only two IR-return designations it could use in a season and a player was required to miss a minimum of eight weeks. Only players on the 53-player roster after Sept. 1 are eligible to be designated for return from IR or the non-football injury list. In other words the same modfied IR rules as last season. I think you and the chap you're responding to may be at cross-purposes His point seems to be that we have to put Doyle on the 53-man roster at least initially, in order for him to go on IR, return and be eligible to practice with the team at any point this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 14 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Bobby Hart is still alive YES!! Beane will get a 3rd round pick for him. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Not impressed with the depth at corner. Would be looking at cuts being made from other teams for upgrades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 20 minutes ago, SWATeam said: So it looks like only one draft pick (Anderson) might not make the roster? Wildgoose is a question mark too, but has a good shoot with Cam out. Pretty impressive on a deep roster. I think its impressive from a GM perspective. Really shows how him and McD work together. Theserookies are not necessarily the best players at this moment. For example I think Josh Thomas played better than Hamlin (its close so fine if someone disagrees), but I definitely still wanted Hamlin on the roster (even potentially over Thomas). The reason (I think but would like some help with) is to retain that rookie contract and control. This doesnt happen if McD and Beane are not on the same page for roster construction both this year and going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 hour ago, FlaFitz1 said: Watch Beane flip Carolina's 6th for Njoku - he makes $6 million this year and is a FA next year. Much cheaper than what they would have to give up for Ertz and his $12.7 million this season. Would love Njoku. I have liked him for a while. I think there is some untapped potential there. That said, I don't think it will ever happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 31, 2021 Author Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Hollister??? Really??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I think the calculation with he and Hamlin was similar players... Thomas easier to sneak through waivers. Hope it works out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 34 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Bobby Hart is still alive YES!! You can't be serious? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Hollister??? Really??? Come on man! There are about a thousand posts explaining why he'll be back tomorrow. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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