Big Turk Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Allen's stats are actually better on the road this year than they are at home...especially in terms of Yards/game...on the road he averages 322 yards versus 244 at home. Rating is higher, sacks are less, higher completion percentage, same # of TD's in 1 fewer game... Split Value G W L T Cmp Att Inc Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Sk Yds Y/A AY/A A/G Y/G Att Yds Y/A TD A/G Y/G Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Ctch% Y/Tgt R/G Y/G TD Pts Fmb FL FF FR Yds TD Place Home 7 6 1 0 155 229 74 67.69 1709 14 5 100.9 18 95 7.46 7.70 32.7 244.1 58 204 3.52 5 8.3 29.1 0 0 0 0 0.0% 0.0 0.0 5 30 5 4 0 0 -2 0 Road 6 4 2 0 168 242 74 69.42 1932 14 4 105.6 6 46 7.98 8.40 40.3 322.0 35 146 4.17 1 5.8 24.3 1 1 12 12.00 1 100.0% 12.00 0.2 2.0 2 12 3 2 0 0 0 So the question then becomes, would it actually be BETTER for the Bills if we played our playoff games on the road? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conlan58 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Depends on the opponent... Dome? Possibly since there are no fans. Otherwise, no I don't think so... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Every QB will play better on average outside Bills Stadium than in Bills Stadium (due to the weather). You do bring up a good question and my answer is "It Depends" If the opposing QB is going to be more adversely affected by Buffalo weather than Allen, play the game at Bills Stadium. If it is the opposite, playing on the road may be better for us. In other words, it is a relative, not absolute thing 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 How is the opposing QB's stats at Bills Stadium? I'll take as many home games as I can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) I would be curious to look up the Bills tenure with MCD at coach the past few years as I feel just on recollection in my mind we have been a better road team overall. But To have he right of being AFC East Champs, the number 2 seed possibly and rewarded with 2 games at home. I think the team would rather be on home turf. Too bad the fans can't be apart. The stadium would be rocking.. Edited December 17, 2020 by loveorhatembillsfan4life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 minute ago, matter2003 said: Allen's stats are actually better on the road this year than they are at home...especially in terms of Yards/game...on the road he averages 322 yards versus 244 at home. Rating is higher, sacks are less, higher completion percentage, same # of TD's in 1 fewer game... Split Value G W L T Cmp Att Inc Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Sk Yds Y/A AY/A A/G Y/G Att Yds Y/A TD A/G Y/G Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Ctch% Y/Tgt R/G Y/G TD Pts Fmb FL FF FR Yds TD Place Home 7 6 1 0 155 229 74 67.69 1709 14 5 100.9 18 95 7.46 7.70 32.7 244.1 58 204 3.52 5 8.3 29.1 0 0 0 0 0.0% 0.0 0.0 5 30 5 4 0 0 -2 0 Road 6 4 2 0 168 242 74 69.42 1932 14 4 105.6 6 46 7.98 8.40 40.3 322.0 35 146 4.17 1 5.8 24.3 1 1 12 12.00 1 100.0% 12.00 0.2 2.0 2 12 3 2 0 0 0 So the question then becomes, would it actually be BETTER for the Bills if we played our playoff games on the road? When your sample is 13 games played with different teams of different skill levels, I think this belongs in that "correlation is not causation" bin. I think a lot of the difference in stats can be explained by the strategic decision to pound the rock against NE and the Chargers (both happening to be home games) and the 7 sack flurry in the 2nd half against Seattle. We want a home playoff game because the same factors that make our stadium hard for us, make it hard for other QB as well and presumably knowing the field and how to move on it and having more comfortable, familiar training and lodging surroundings will help. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 17, 2020 Author Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: I would be curious to look up the Bills tenure with MCD at coach the past few years as I feel just on recollection in my mind we have been a better road team overall. But To have he right of being AFC East Champs, the number 2 seed possibly and rewarded with 2 games at home. I think the team would rather be on home turf. Too bad the fans can't be apart. The stadium would be rocking.. Allen is 14-7 at home versus 11-9 on the road. However, even his career splits are better on the road, not just this year. He averages over 40 yards/game more on the road and has a higher rating and completion percentage with fewer INTs in 50 more attempts. This may be a great thing however...a lot of QBs wilt on the road...Allen plays BETTER on the road, and it isn't like he is bad at home or anything... Allen Career Splits: Split Value G W L T Cmp Att Inc Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Sk Yds Y/A AY/A A/G Y/G Att Yds Y/A TD A/G Y/G Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Ctch% Y/Tgt R/G Y/G 2PM TD Pts Fmb FL FF FR Yds TD Place Home 21 14 7 0 356 601 245 59.23 4093 29 16 84.8 49 287 6.81 6.58 28.6 194.9 155 792 5.11 13 7.4 37.7 1 0 0 0 0.0% 0.00 0.0 0.0 1 13 36 18 7 0 3 -2 0 Road 20 11 9 0 407 651 244 62.52 4711 29 14 90.2 41 304 7.24 7.16 32.6 235.6 136 699 5.14 10 6.8 35.0 1 1 12 12.00 1 100.0% 12.00 0.1 0.6 11 12 12 5 0 1 -15 0 Edited December 17, 2020 by matter2003 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Forget these stats, and name a team where you would rather the Bills play in their stadium. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Its really tricky. This O is like the old Rams 'greatest show on turf' and seem to play best in pristine situations. Its hard to come to terms with because we've always wished for terrible weather, and home games. Right now, I'd rather see them play in good conditions, wherever, versus in the slop. Power running teams are what give us trouble, and will be more so in those conditions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerDave Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 I lean more toward getting a team win, rather than a good stat sheet for the QB. I believe the Bills have a better chance of winning at home versus on the road. To me, that's the only thing that matters. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Yes, we do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 6-1 home 4-2 road ? road or home, chances of winning are no greater at home or away. especially in 2020 where there has been no 12th man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: Forget these stats, and name a team where you would rather the Bills play in their stadium. Miami 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Yes, it is by far easier on the players and staff. Go Bills!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 33 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Allen's stats are actually better on the road this year than they are at home...especially in terms of Yards/game...on the road he averages 322 yards versus 244 at home. Rating is higher, sacks are less, higher completion percentage, same # of TD's in 1 fewer game... Split Value G W L T Cmp Att Inc Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Sk Yds Y/A AY/A A/G Y/G Att Yds Y/A TD A/G Y/G Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Ctch% Y/Tgt R/G Y/G TD Pts Fmb FL FF FR Yds TD Place Home 7 6 1 0 155 229 74 67.69 1709 14 5 100.9 18 95 7.46 7.70 32.7 244.1 58 204 3.52 5 8.3 29.1 0 0 0 0 0.0% 0.0 0.0 5 30 5 4 0 0 -2 0 Road 6 4 2 0 168 242 74 69.42 1932 14 4 105.6 6 46 7.98 8.40 40.3 322.0 35 146 4.17 1 5.8 24.3 1 1 12 12.00 1 100.0% 12.00 0.2 2.0 2 12 3 2 0 0 0 So the question then becomes, would it actually be BETTER for the Bills if we played our playoff games on the road? Those stats are pretty similar. Kinda splitting hairs. 100.9 vs 105.6 ratings prove that Josh is just a very good QB no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPL Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Forget home and road playoff games. Put the playoffs in a bubble in Arizona. Allen has been lights out in two games in Glendale this year. But the way things are shaping up, looks like playoff road games in KC and Pitt. will be the only options, unless Pitt. keeps sliding or we fall apart in the last three weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Until you show me how our opponents' QBs fare in OP vs. at home in those same games, and compare the relative strength of schedule home and away, these numbers mean little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 This year I don’t think it matters. If buffalo could have fans I’d want the home game just so you Yankees up north could go 😂😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 43 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Allen is 14-7 at home versus 11-9 on the road. However, even his career splits are better on the road, not just this year. He averages over 40 yards/game more on the road and has a higher rating and completion percentage with fewer INTs in 50 more attempts. This may be a great thing however...a lot of QBs wilt on the road...Allen plays BETTER on the road, and it isn't like he is bad at home or anything... Allen Career Splits: Split Value G W L T Cmp Att Inc Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Sk Yds Y/A AY/A A/G Y/G Att Yds Y/A TD A/G Y/G Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Ctch% Y/Tgt R/G Y/G 2PM TD Pts Fmb FL FF FR Yds TD Place Home 21 14 7 0 356 601 245 59.23 4093 29 16 84.8 49 287 6.81 6.58 28.6 194.9 155 792 5.11 13 7.4 37.7 1 0 0 0 0.0% 0.00 0.0 0.0 1 13 36 18 7 0 3 -2 0 Road 20 11 9 0 407 651 244 62.52 4711 29 14 90.2 41 304 7.24 7.16 32.6 235.6 136 699 5.14 10 6.8 35.0 1 1 12 12.00 1 100.0% 12.00 0.1 0.6 11 12 12 5 0 1 -15 0 Thanks for some reason I thought we seemed to win more on the road. But this year we have been very good at home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 I don't care where, how or who.....JUST WIN BABY! Go BILLS!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 The Bills played the Rams and Steelers at home. Two of the best defenses in the league. They played the Chiefs at home in a bad weather game. I think the evidence is circumstantial. Tough opponents and weather played a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 I like Josh Allen's arm in Buffalo winter against Tua, Tannehill, Mayfield, and Jackson. Those are the QBs we are more likely to face at home, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Miami You'd rather play in Miami in January than Orchard Park? No way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Rocky Landing said: Forget these stats, and name a team where you would rather the Bills play in their stadium. Tampa Bay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 It will be a bit of a bummer to have a home playoff game and no fans. But I wouldn't be 100% sure that NY State doesn't allow a handful (5000 or so) fans since it is outdoors, in mid-January, and everyone will be bundled up anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 I think the benefits of playing at home, in an empty stadium, outweigh the perceived benefits of playing on the road. Unless the game is played in a blizzard or some ridiculously bad weather, which it probably will not be. I think the empty stadium helps Josh a lot. I also think the routine of waking up in your own bed, etc., in a familiar stadium is a benefit. Not huge, but it's something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 I want a dome! is that crusading?🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, matter2003 said: Allen's stats are actually better on the road this year than they are at home...especially in terms of Yards/game...on the road he averages 322 yards versus 244 at home. Rating is higher, sacks are less, higher completion percentage, same # of TD's in 1 fewer game... Split Value G W L T Cmp Att Inc Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Sk Yds Y/A AY/A A/G Y/G Att Yds Y/A TD A/G Y/G Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Ctch% Y/Tgt R/G Y/G TD Pts Fmb FL FF FR Yds TD Place Home 7 6 1 0 155 229 74 67.69 1709 14 5 100.9 18 95 7.46 7.70 32.7 244.1 58 204 3.52 5 8.3 29.1 0 0 0 0 0.0% 0.0 0.0 5 30 5 4 0 0 -2 0 Road 6 4 2 0 168 242 74 69.42 1932 14 4 105.6 6 46 7.98 8.40 40.3 322.0 35 146 4.17 1 5.8 24.3 1 1 12 12.00 1 100.0% 12.00 0.2 2.0 2 12 3 2 0 0 0 So the question then becomes, would it actually be BETTER for the Bills if we played our playoff games on the road? His home/road splits for last year showed the same trend and were even more extreme. I still like the idea of facing Rivers and Roethilisberger at home and then Mahomes on the road. As Marv used to say, "When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us." Edited December 17, 2020 by JESSEFEFFER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 hours ago, matter2003 said: Allen's stats are actually better on the road this year than they are at home...especially in terms of Yards/game...on the road he averages 322 yards versus 244 at home. Rating is higher, sacks are less, higher completion percentage, same # of TD's in 1 fewer game... Split Value G W L T Cmp Att Inc Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Sk Yds Y/A AY/A A/G Y/G Att Yds Y/A TD A/G Y/G Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Ctch% Y/Tgt R/G Y/G TD Pts Fmb FL FF FR Yds TD Place Home 7 6 1 0 155 229 74 67.69 1709 14 5 100.9 18 95 7.46 7.70 32.7 244.1 58 204 3.52 5 8.3 29.1 0 0 0 0 0.0% 0.0 0.0 5 30 5 4 0 0 -2 0 Road 6 4 2 0 168 242 74 69.42 1932 14 4 105.6 6 46 7.98 8.40 40.3 322.0 35 146 4.17 1 5.8 24.3 1 1 12 12.00 1 100.0% 12.00 0.2 2.0 2 12 3 2 0 0 0 So the question then becomes, would it actually be BETTER for the Bills if we played our playoff games on the road? Does this factor in WHO they play? Cream puffs on the road and stronger teams at home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Minnesota has a really cool stadium, with the glass roof. I don't like indoor football as much, but that one, with the end doors open, is almost like an outdoor venue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 When our defense couldn't stop the run, facing a run heavy team at home, if the conditions are bad, wasn't ideal... but with our defense rounding into shape, give me home games. I'll take Allen throwing in potential wind/sleet/snow, against any of the QB's we could face at home. Mahomes plays in home bad weather late in the season also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockpile Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Rocky Landing said: Forget these stats, and name a team where you would rather the Bills play in their stadium. I will take the Chiefs in Buffalo instead of their house any day! Personal mojo opinion! 7 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Minnesota has a really cool stadium, with the glass roof. I don't like indoor football as much, but that one, with the end doors open, is almost like an outdoor venue We lost a SB in Minneapolis. Edited December 17, 2020 by rockpile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 2020 has to be thrown out in any stadium conversations or for that matter everything but the game on the field, too many variables. So game on field is 10-3, awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) Traveling is an added distraction and danger this season IMO. I will say Allen in a Dome setting or nice weather conditions on the outside is not such a bad thing. I think Buffalo for the most part runs a finesse Offense IMO. Favorable to good playing conditions. Facing a RB like Derrick Henry in bad weather does not appeal to me... ( or Chubb ) Edited December 17, 2020 by Figster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Right now the narrative of being better at home or away is meaningless cause of no or little fans.. there is no home or away advantage. I look at it as who did we play away outside our division and who we play at home outside our division.. So in typing this I am going to break it down and figure that out. Home: 4-1 Combined win loss +/- 45W-20L + 25 Rams KC LOSE Seahawks Chargers Steelers Away:3-2 Combined win loss +/- 33W-33L 0 Raiders Titans LOSS Cardinals LOSS 49ers Broncos(trying to keep it 5 each side to get a good look, we going to win anyhow) Other then 60 MPH gusts I think Josh can handle weather.. Intangible Is Injuries during away games. If you choose to break it down like this then I choose home. Again we not basing it on intangibles so off that. I say home and it matters.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Allen has had some massive games at home this year. With Covid 19 less travel the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Every QB will play better on average outside Bills Stadium than in Bills Stadium (due to the weather). You do bring up a good question and my answer is "It Depends" If the opposing QB is going to be more adversely affected by Buffalo weather than Allen, play the game at Bills Stadium. If it is the opposite, playing on the road may be better for us. In other words, it is a relative, not absolute thing Give me the Colts in round 1. Obviously or the Raiders or Dolphins but they aren't getting in. Edited December 17, 2020 by Big Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 No offense but what an incredible obtuse comment. So Allen does better on the raod? Are we in it for Josh's stats? We are according to your numbers 6-1 at home and 4=-2 away? What is the mystery, why the heck would we want an away home game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael1962 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 I think playoff games are a different animal than regular season games. I think home advantage is more important but don't know if stats support this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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