Protocal69 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 3 pages of people responding this bull####. Some you guys are going nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Klein has more sacks in the last three game stretch than Milano has in his entire career Keep both and continue using Klein downhill and on delayed rushed Guy has a nose for the qb and play a little violent something the Bills have lacked on defense for a long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Trolling trolling trolling Keep that post count rolling Rawhide 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Andy1 said: Klein has really turned it around. The coaches have definitely figured out his strengths and he has probably become more comfortable in the system. Why does it have to be either/or, why not keep both? Thank you for your rational answer. Most of this board refuse to listen to things like this because it is EITHER/OR for everything. Klein's savings probably is not worth pursuing next season so I would assume he stays on the team. The following year (2022) he costs next to nothing to let go so that would be the time to make a decision. I said a couple of weeks ago what you mentioned above. He is learning to fit in where his strengths are and the coaches are doing their best to scheme him in those spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Klein isn't a long term answer but he has shown you can replace Milano in this defense without losing too much. I'd rather sign Darryl Williams and let Milano walk. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Klein isn't a long term answer but he has shown you can replace Milano in this defense without losing too much. I'd rather sign Darryl Williams and let Milano walk. Klein isn't really replacing Milano. They shuffled the responsibility deck and handed out the cards differently 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 48 minutes ago, M. Wrotto said: I’m a big fan of Milano. A healthy Milano. The trouble is we can’t count onhim to be there week in and week out. Definitely not worth 8 to 12 mil a year which will be the going rate. More like 14 or 15 mil a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Klein has been pretty good but he’s a SLB. Milano plays a different position. Let’s just keep both and add a stud MLB in round 1 next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Klein isn't really replacing Milano. They shuffled the responsibility deck and handed out the cards differently Exactly...the way they are using Klein the past few games has definitely allowed him to be a big contributor to the D instead of a liability. Kudos to the defensive coaching staff for adjusting to their players. Let's not forget lack of a true offseason this year hasn't helped with integrating new players into systems and it has had to be done on the fly... Diggs made a seamless transition on offense but Klein struggled on D until they carved out a different role for him attacking near the LOS mainly. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, M. Wrotto said: He has definitely been steady for the past month, not expensive and definitely not as injury prone as Milano. Lets not a say we did! What I will say, the season started with idea of( like last season with Lorax), taking Klein out on likely passing downs. Klein's play of late may change that, instead you keep him on the field lining up all over the place and blitz, then on occasion to mix it up let Klein go back in coverage and blitz either Edmunds or Milano. But maybe you keep all three LB's on field much more than initially planned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I think we should consider permanently replacing John Brown with Klein. It goes without saying that Milano will be driven out to the country and shot. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 So we can watch him get beat in coverage some more:? Look....they seem to have found a role for Klein in the defense which involves him going after the QB......but lets be real....he cant cover for ***** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 26 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Klein has been pretty good but he’s a SLB. Milano plays a different position. Let’s just keep both and add a stud MLB in round 1 next year. I literally recoiled reading this. Yes, let’s invest more than anyone in the history of the NFL has ever invested in at LB... Pay Milano, draft another MLB in the 1st Round and have a 1st Round backup linebacker? Fwiw, Edmunds looks good now that he’s getting healthier. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Southern Bills Fan said: Wait? Wasn’t Klein our worst free agent signing in history? I read that here somewhere. He was. Then, either things clicked for him or the coaches started using him differently. Or maybe both. He was horrendous to start the year. I don’t currently hate Aj Klein. I pray this continues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Let's not. While I'm in favor of moving Edmunds to OLB, Klein is not the answer at MLB. He is fine as a 4-3 LB but they rarely have more than two linebackers on the field at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 2 hours ago, DasNootz said: Klein is a one trick pony. He’s good at getting in the backfield. He’s weak in coverage and misses a lot of open field tackles. When he plays to his strength he’s productive. Milano is much better all around in my opinion. Agree Milano is all around better but that neck whip tackle A.J. had on 3rd down in the redzone was a monster play with some serious closing speed. A critical, game changing play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike22nc Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Look at the Bills defensive numbers in games Milano has played vs games Milano has missed the past 3 years. We are somewhere around 60 yards better per game with Milano in the lineup. I hope the injuries this year depress his value closer to 9 mil per year than 15, as we are a much better team if he’s still on it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) Yeah, um, no. Edited November 30, 2020 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ForMacAdoo Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, mike22nc said: Look at the Bills defensive numbers in games Milano has played vs games Milano has missed the past 3 years. We are somewhere around 60 yards better per game with Milano in the lineup. I hope the injuries this year depress his value closer to 9 mil per year than 15, as we are a much better team if he’s still on it. I like Matt Milano. The problem is, even if you pay him AJ Klein money ($18 million/3 years) not to mention $9 million per year (!!), that's $$ you don't have to pay harder to replace positions (Feliciano & Daryl Williams). Then you've got Tremaine and Josh coming up for big pay days. If Milano takes a home town discount, sure, but some team out there will pay him more than we ever should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Put down the skunky beer, and back away slowly. C'mon man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 4 hours ago, M. Wrotto said: He has definitely been steady for the past month, not expensive and definitely not as injury prone as Milano. No thanks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 What Milano lacks in power he makes up for it in coverage. Klein is a nice LB in a downhill straight line attacking scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Is Milano eligible to return this week or next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 No. Klein is too slow. He'll have a good game once in a while, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 How about we make a radical move and even play football with 3 linebackers on the field?!? Given that milano can cover, we could even do it vs 3 wrs sometimes! I get we have had injuries and that we played a ton of nickel last year, but how do we never have 3lbs? Our base 4-2-5 is weak to the run up the gut, but that is due to lb injuries and bad dt play, it has also gotten eaten by screens and sweeps, which is just bad tackling and block shedding. Having an lb around the ball making teams adjust blocking and two others who can rush can give the o fits. We may just invent a wacky balanced d call d the 4-3! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 2 hours ago, GreggTX said: No. Klein is too slow. He'll have a good game once in a while, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. He looked a lot faster yesterday. He did whiff on a few plays, but his good plays outweighed the bad ones by a good margin. I've been impressed with Klein the past few weeks. If we could get him, Milano and Edmunds together, I think we'd be ok. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 8 hours ago, M. Wrotto said: He has definitely been steady for the past month, not expensive and definitely not as injury prone as Milano. we need more good LBs , not fewer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 8 hours ago, JohnNord said: I think this the perfect example of recency bias. Klein has played better over the past weeks but Milano is the better player overall. If there’s a way you can Milano on the team, I would support that Also we had to completely change the system for Klein to be effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) We are seeing AJ Klein is a damned good football player. He never played the WIL before this year. Give the man some credit. After clearly having to adjust to a new position, he has been lights out. I feel good that he is on this team. Edited November 30, 2020 by Beast 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 11 hours ago, Southern Bills Fan said: Wait? Wasn’t Klein our worst free agent signing in history? I read that here somewhere. Have you watched him in space or trying to cover?? The last 3 games they have let him blitz which seems to be his strong suit, they were trying to square peg round hole him for whatever reason. He’s starting to round into a solid player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Klein doesn’t replace Milano, he replaces Edmunds.. Seemed to me that Klein got quite a few snaps at MLB and Edmunds filled in at Milano’s spot.. I thought Klein did a good job.. If he were a step or two faster he’d be an elite player.. Yes, he is slow but he has very good instincts, he’s strong against the run and he’s a very good blitzer.. Klein is only making $6M/yr, which is the entry level price for a starting caliber player.. He is probably our only LB that plays the run well.. Edmunds did see some snaps at Mike as well but Klein got quite a few snaps there also.. So in 3rd & 1 and 4th & 1 situations, Klein is a great piece to have on this defense.. In obvious running situations, especially when our defense has an idea which side the offense is going to run to, you put Klein there.. Change up the Mike and SLB depending on what the offense is going to do.. It comes down to Edmunds vs Milano.. Edmunds is seemingly being pushed into Milano’s role.. Some folks are saying that Milano will make up to $14M/yr in free agency and in my mind you have to let him go if that’s the case.. Edmunds is far more talented, more size, better pass rushing potential, length and athletic ability and durability..Think you let Milano go, you draft another solid LB RDS 2-3 and you audition Edmunds at OLB over the next 5 games.. depending how well he does you either pick up or decline his 5th year option.. I think Edmunds will make about $10M in 2022 if we pick up his 5th year option.. that’s anywhere from $2M to $4M less than Milano’s projected contract.. Milano is also undersized and seems to get hurt a lot.. And with Edmunds size and length, he’s better suited at covering some of the bigger TEs in the league.. Basically if it were me, I’d pick up Edmunds 5th year option, he goes to Milano’s old spot... you keep Klein, he’s serviceable and his contract is dirt cheap and you draft another LB or sign another one in free agency.. Not rocket science.. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Kleins been a kind of Lorenzo type of piece as of late, where Milano is huge in coverage. Why not keep both since they have different jobs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 klein is not worth $6 mil guessing i will feel milano is not worth his next contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 13 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: Yeah, um, no. I checked with moderators on GangGreen to see if they’d consider a trade involving Sar & Mr. Wrotto. One of them thinks Sar committed suicide. The other said ‘no thanks!’ 🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 11 hours ago, NewEra said: Is Milano eligible to return this week or next? He can get designated to return this week, and activated up until 4 pm Saturday. I think. Unless the Monday game changes things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I lile to call this the red zone channel effect, now a days people pay attention to the ending of drives and not much in between Aj klien has made some big plays in recent weeks, but a lot of people only see the big plays he makes and not the consistent 10 to 15 yards he gives up in pass defense when he is in coverage Aj klien is a very useful player but needs to be used heavily as a pass rusher. Him in coverage or space is not what you want as a bills fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, papazoid said: klein is not worth $6 mil guessing i will feel milano is not worth his next contract. if he finishes out the year like the last 2 games he absolutely is. might have taken them a minute to figure out how to utilize him best. continuity is our friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Nice thought, but not really a good idea in application. The way they are using Klein at present appears to be working well, maybe we shouldn’t screw around with that, just sayin... Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I heard Aaron Maybin is still out there.... he even had a song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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