BillsMafi$ Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Just seen on sportscenter that the Bills have the 4th highest pressure rate in the NFL surprising . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 We don’t like sacks just pressures. That’s a great stat but hope it leads to more sacks and turnovers! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Yeah we pressure a lot but never get to the QB in time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Wow that is shocking to hear. Would never have imagined we'd be anywhere near the top. Sure it's not 4th from the bottom?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 I think they're measuring how much our defense pressures our offense to score more. 6 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costrovs Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 just enough to give the opposing QB's a good startle.... "RAHH!!! I'd sack you, but there's like a 50/50 chance it's gonna be a 15 yard penalty... so... RAAHH!!" - Bills D-Line 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 And we have very few defensive turnovers, too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyBeets Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) This is a nice statistic and honestly it's evident by watching the game. The problem is our horrendous run defense! Edited November 6, 2020 by TonyBeets 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 We like to pressure the QB into a 10 yard scramble. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Almost every QB we face are not looking for deep passes. Fitz darnold carr tanny Goff all got ball out of hands immediately. Therefore pressure doesn't get home. 2 minutes ago, TonyBeets said: This is a nice statistics and honestly it's evident by watching the game. The problem is our horrendous run defense! Yes and no. Its also the fact that teams have 5 to 7 yard passes in middle of field whenever they want. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 36 minutes ago, BillsMafi$ said: Just seen on sportscenter that the Bills have the 4th highest pressure rate in the NFL surprising . 25 percent of the Bills games have involved the Jets, which to date is the highest percentage for any team (because the Bills have played them twice). Factor that in. 20 minutes ago, TonyBeets said: This is a nice statistic and honestly it's evident by watching the game. The problem is our horrendous run defense! Again, Jets. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) One of my least favorite stats in the NFL. It's akin to keeping a stat saying a Quarterback had the highest percentage of passes that were almost caught. Its too subjective. What constitutes a "pressure" how close do you have to be to the QB? And who decides that? Edited November 6, 2020 by thenorthremembers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 But they haven't contained the QB super well. They'll get pressure but allow a lane for the QB to escape the pocket and make a throw on the run, or pick up yards with their feet. I'd actually like to see them stay in their rushing lanes better and contain the QB and running backs even if that means less pressure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 What happens if you take out the Jets and Patriots games? I mean I know that's kind of a cop out, but it seems like when we play a terrible offensive line we get lots of pressure, and when we play a line with a pulse we are putrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 I must be watching a different team then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 51 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: 25 percent of the Bills games have involved the Jets, which to date is the highest percentage for any team (because the Bills have played them twice). Factor that in. Again, Jets. GREAT point! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nester Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 We are 2nd in SACK PERCENTAGE over the last 3 games. https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/sack-pct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) I'm not sure how exactly they define "pressure" but there may be two kinds: 1. Jerry Hughes beats his man with a swim move, pressures the QB who steps up to avoid Hughes and then gets sacked by Oliver. 2. Jerry Hughes beats his man with a swim move, pressures the QB who steps up to avoid the sack and delivers a strike for a first down. Pressure is good. Sacks are better. To get sacks, it helps to have multiple points of pressure and that hadn't been happening nearly enough earlier this season. Edited November 6, 2020 by hondo in seattle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 hour ago, BillsMafi$ said: Just seen on sportscenter that the Bills have the 4th highest pressure rate in the NFL surprising . If only Taron Johnson could cover someone longer that 2 seconds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 hour ago, QLBillsFan said: We don’t like sacks just pressures. That’s a great stat but hope it leads to more sacks and turnovers! We're actually top 10 in sacks as well. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 hour ago, thenorthremembers said: One of my least favorite stats in the NFL. It's akin to keeping a stat saying a Quarterback had the highest percentage of passes that were almost caught. Its too subjective. What constitutes a "pressure" how close do you have to be to the QB? And who decides that? Pass rush win rate how often the player is beating his block within 2.5 seconds They define pressure as any defender that affects the QB in the pocket. Whether that be forcing him to step up/scramble, hitting him on a pass play, or sacking him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 The benefit of playing the Jets twice early: 9 Sacks in two games Jets. That is 4.5 per game. 10 Sacks vs everyone else. That is 1.66 per game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 This is just my opinion but getting sacks is a combination of pressure, coverage and collapsing the pocket so the QB can't just step up to avoid the outside pressure. The Bills have gotten good pressure on the outside, Hughes especially, but with the lack of pressure up the middle and the soft off coverage the QB is able to get rid of the ball or step up to avoid the sack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Is this another worthless PFF analytic? We pressured the qb for an entire 7 seconds until he found an open receiver. Yay!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 4 hours ago, BillsMafi$ said: Just seen on sportscenter that the Bills have the 4th highest pressure rate in the NFL surprising . Not if you have watched the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnywo Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Its a little later in the season than the turn around from last season...but I'm hoping for the same result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, BillsMafi$ said: Just seen on sportscenter that the Bills have the 4th highest pressure rate in the NFL surprising . There were so many plays that we were close in getting a sack but miss tackle in ( general) hurt this defense from finishing the plays and getting of the field Edited November 6, 2020 by Putin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 57 minutes ago, johnnywo said: Its a little later in the season than the turn around from last season...but I'm hoping for the same result. really don't see this team having its crap together until after the bye and guys (Brown, Milano, Edmunds, Morse, etc etc etc) can get healthy. I can see 6-4 (7-3 best case) heading into the bye (everyone losing their sh-t ) and then 5-1 to finish 11-5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Bills are a mid level in sacks, hopefully that goes up and the pressure rate is indicative of higher performance to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Obviously not all pressures mean the same thing. I'm not going to argue with their methods but I just don't care about this stat. Whatever pressure they are bringing it is not resulting in turnovers. That is all that matters. Modern defense is bend but don't break, hope for a miscue by the offense that puts them in long down and distance, and getting turnovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 High in pressure but with horrendous 2nd tier or LB play we get toasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Real McNasty said: High in pressure but with horrendous 2nd tier or LB play we get toasted. This. Middle of field wide open. And when these guys blitz....well its like they do it with their eyes closed. Just run right the ***** into the blocker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) Yes my doctor concurs, this defense is top 4 to increase your pressure rate. Edited November 7, 2020 by IronMaidenBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 On 11/7/2020 at 12:13 AM, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: Yeah we pressure a lot but never get to the QB in time... especially on 3rd downs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Just shows you that stat is meaningless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 (edited) On 11/7/2020 at 4:15 AM, dave mcbride said: 25 percent of the Bills games have involved the Jets, which to date is the highest percentage for any team (because the Bills have played them twice). Factor that in. Again, Jets. If you want to focus on that, you also have to point out that we also played the Chiefs and Titans, two of the absolute best in the league. Overall, our schedule has been tougher than average. The defense hasn't been especially good this year. If what we're doing is working in one area, that's great, let's look at that, without forgetting the areas where things aren't going so well. On 11/7/2020 at 10:55 AM, Ethan in Portland said: Obviously not all pressures mean the same thing. I'm not going to argue with their methods but I just don't care about this stat. Whatever pressure they are bringing it is not resulting in turnovers. That is all that matters. Modern defense is bend but don't break, hope for a miscue by the offense that puts them in long down and distance, and getting turnovers. That's just not true, turnovers aren't all that matter. Rushed throws that fall incomplete matter plenty too. Open receivers the QB didn't have time to see or hit matter. Pressures are excellent, they lower lower the effectiveness of the QB and the whole passing game. Sacks are better, they lower effectiveness even more, but pressures are good. Edited November 8, 2020 by Thurman#1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: That's just not true, turnovers aren't all that matter. Rushed throws that fall incomplete matter plenty too. Open receivers the QB didn't have time to see or hit matter. Pressures are excellent, they lower lower the effectiveness of the QB and the whole passing game. Sacks are better, they lower effectiveness even more, but pressures are good. Indeed. It amazes me that McDermott has been here four years. People have watched four years of this scheme but it is like they don't see what is actually happening. Collapsing pockets and disrupting timing is an objective of this defense. It isn't just a means of trying to achieve sacks, it is an objective in itself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Offensive holding is wayyyy down. We are actually getting pressure consistently, especially as of late. More so than others in the league. I would prefer sacks but QB hurries lead to bad throws, INTs, etc so keep it up boys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 (edited) On 11/6/2020 at 1:54 PM, Captain_Quint said: And we have very few defensive turnovers, too. This is the key. Is their an advanced stat out there for missed interceptions? We’ve got to be near the top in that category! Edited November 8, 2020 by Buffalo Boy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 On 11/6/2020 at 3:38 PM, thurst44 said: We're actually top 10 in sacks as well. Yeah but if you remove the games where we got lots of sacks then this team would be like bottom 10 in sacks. What about that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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