ny33 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Why can’t Barkley or one of the receivers with good hands be the placeholder? It’s possible that Bojorquez was the reason Bass missed in Week 1. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I like the idea of Barkley taking the snap & chucking one. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eSJayDee Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 The FG tonite, he didn't even make any attempt to get the laces in the right place. I know longsnappers are excellent at this level, but I can't imagine they're expected to maintain the exact number of (fractional) rotations for each snap. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Seeing something as simple to fix as this going unchanged is a big reflection on the coaching staff. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: I like the idea of Barkley taking the snap & chucking one. the special teams guys have a lot of extra time in practice to work on this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 21 minutes ago, ny33 said: Why can’t Barkley or one of the receivers with good hands be the placeholder? It’s possible that Bojorquez was the reason Bass missed in Week 1. I’m pretty sure, on at least one of the two misses, this was absolutely the case. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 34 minutes ago, eSJayDee said: The FG tonite, he didn't even make any attempt to get the laces in the right place. I know longsnappers are excellent at this level, but I can't imagine they're expected to maintain the exact number of (fractional) rotations for each snap. That was cringeworthy for a HS game. In the NFL it is inexcusable. Beyond terrible. This isn't the first time it's happened either. Bojo needs to be replaced on placeholding duties...maybe Barkley needs to start holding because Bojo isn't improving at all. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, ny33 said: Why can’t Barkley or one of the receivers with good hands be the placeholder? It’s possible that Bojorquez was the reason Bass missed in Week 1. Send Bojorquez here... Edited October 14, 2020 by Special K 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I'm not going to lie , to see bojorquez not even attempt to get Laces out , in an NFL game was mind-boggling But this is coming from the same guy who called his own fake field goal pass 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiamioh Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I’m guessing because he absolutely blows at that as well as being a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 People are going to latch onto Bojo’s one good punt as evidence of him not being terrible. I can assure you he really is ***** terrible and one good punt does not make up for all the crappy punts and holds he does on a consistent basis. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Pretty much the last thing on earth I'm thinking about right now is who our holder will be. Adorable..... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I'd care more if he missed a kick last night 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 We are in big trouble next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said: We are in big trouble next week Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Gugny said: Why? The Bills played last night. It was a Tuesday night game maybe you missed it. Let’s just say, it didn’t go very well. If you have the NFL network they are probably showing highlights right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 8 hours ago, eSJayDee said: The FG tonite, he didn't even make any attempt to get the laces in the right place. I know longsnappers are excellent at this level, but I can't imagine they're expected to maintain the exact number of (fractional) rotations for each snap. Jay Feely, before the ball was even snapped, said that Bojo has hurt the kicker with bad holds several times this year, including both misses week 1. Then the ball was snapped and he did it again. I agree with this thread 100% 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 At least he's punting well. The long return had nothing to do with his punt either, that thing was sky high and our guys couldn't get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 27 minutes ago, dneveu said: At least he's punting well. The long return had nothing to do with his punt either, that thing was sky high and our guys couldn't get there. But it was right down the middle of the field. You have to punt outside the numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Glad to see you guys are focused on this, it's the last piece we need to go undefeated 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 11 hours ago, eSJayDee said: The FG tonite, he didn't even make any attempt to get the laces in the right place. I know longsnappers are excellent at this level, but I can't imagine they're expected to maintain the exact number of (fractional) rotations for each snap. 7 3/4 yards gets the job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 24 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said: Glad to see you guys are focused on this, it's the last piece we need to go undefeated It could cost us a game, and it's something that should be very easy to fix. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 52 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: It could cost us a game, and it's something that should be very easy to fix. Did he make the FG? I think so. Would you or any of us know about it if Jay Feeley hadn't been in the booth? I think not. Everything else in this game was so great, why be a killjoy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Barkley is not a very good QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 13 hours ago, ny33 said: Why can’t Barkley or one of the receivers with good hands be the placeholder? It’s possible that Bojorquez was the reason Bass missed in Week 1. Special teams has basically their own practice during practice. The long snapper goes off with kicker and punter to do drills. To have Barkley do this would impact his ability to function effectively as the #2 QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Not sure if it's true, but I heard that Barkley doesn't like to be on or near the ground because he's now scared of spiders... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 13 hours ago, ny33 said: Why can’t Barkley or one of the receivers with good hands be the placeholder? It’s possible that Bojorquez was the reason Bass missed in Week 1. After the Bills showing last night we are worried about the placeholder??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Dan Darragh said: Did he make the FG? I think so. Would you or any of us know about it if Jay Feeley hadn't been in the booth? I think not. Everything else in this game was so great, why be a killjoy? I'm pretty sure you're trolling, but I'll bite anyway. Yes, Bass made the kick. I disagree, I think plenty of fans would've noticed without Feeley pointing it out. Having laces pointed directly at the kicker is a very rare occurrence in the NFL, and Bojorquez has done it multiple times this year. Yes, the game was a disaster, and there are plenty of things to worry about going forward. This play was irrelevant to the outcome of the game. BUT it's something that COULD cost us a game in the future (plenty of games come down to missed FG or PAT). AND this is something that can be very easily fixed. You either tell Bojorquez to stop being a knucklehead, or you have someone else (IE Barkley) as the holder. It's really that simple 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 McDermott asked him and Barkley asked for a $500 a year raise to his contract....McDermott said F*** that. 1 hour ago, Dan Darragh said: Did he make the FG? I think so. Would you or any of us know about it if Jay Feeley hadn't been in the booth? I think not. Everything else in this game was so great, why be a killjoy? Oh I definitely saw it. I saw the bright white laces facing the tv screen before he kicked it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 6 hours ago, Brennan Huff said: We are in big trouble next week 6 hours ago, Brennan Huff said: The Bills played last night. It was a Tuesday night game maybe you missed it. Let’s just say, it didn’t go very well. If you have the NFL network they are probably showing highlights right now Never worry about all the press written about you, good or bad. 1 hour ago, dneveu said: Special teams has basically their own practice during practice. The long snapper goes off with kicker and punter to do drills. To have Barkley do this would impact his ability to function effectively as the #2 QB. Agreed, but for years it seemed like the majority of kickholders were QBs, or other 'deft hands' players. Only that move to maximize workout efficiency seemed to mandate punters move into holding for the Ks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, ny33 said: Why can’t Barkley or one of the receivers with good hands be the placeholder? It’s possible that Bojorquez was the reason Bass missed in Week 1. And somehow you know Barkley will be better at this? I'd think a punters hand must be pretty good, else they'd be dropping the snaps on punts. The problem too is rotation which to me would seem to be a more a mental thing. As to using another player, the Bills like most teams in the league use their punter. 30 years ago was easy to have Frank Reich stay after practice an extra 1/2 or so to practice with the kickers. Today with so much limitations on practice due to the CBA, teams don't want to pull the backup QB or pretty much any players for that matter from their positional drills, full practice, meetings, whatever to work with the kicker. Maybe Bass wants the ball spotted 1/2 step closer or further than Haush did so the number of rotations on the ball when Bojo receives the snap has changed from prior?? Edited October 14, 2020 by Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Dan Darragh said: Did he make the FG? I think so. Would you or any of us know about it if Jay Feeley hadn't been in the booth? I think not. Everything else in this game was so great, why be a killjoy? I noticed and commented several times in previous games that the laces were facing towards Bass and that that’s an issue that Bojo needs to address. Edited October 14, 2020 by Doc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 4 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Never worry about all the press written about you, good or bad. Agreed, but for years it seemed like the majority of kickholders were QBs, or other 'deft hands' players. Only that move to maximize workout efficiency seemed to mandate punters move into holding for the Ks. Practices are a lot more limited now which may have something to do with it. College is also limiting practice time so punters already have experience holding when they make it to the NFL. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Bozo held all last year for House. How does this fool still get it wrong? I'm sure Bass just loves staring right at those laces. Belichick wouldn't tolerate this crap. So on top of worrying about Bass drifting kicks right, we have to worry about Bozo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Hindsight 20/20, we should have drafted Braden Mann instead if the Bass man. Bojo sucks and maybe Bass would have still been available later or we could have stuck with Hauschka. Mann should have been the pick because he would have been an immense upgrade, whereas the kicking battle was more 50/50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Now I'm not sure if it was the refs or the placeholder that cost the Bills the game yesterday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: Hindsight 20/20, we should have drafted Braden Mann instead if the Bass man. Bojo sucks and maybe Bass would have still been available later or we could have stuck with Hauschka. Mann should have been the pick because he would have been an immense upgrade, whereas the kicking battle was more 50/50. Bojo is 4th in the league in punting average at the moment. Also refreshing - the teams only punted 12 times in 5 weeks. His 2 TBs, and the long return have hurt his net average some (41.1)- but hes also had 2 70 yarders with no returns. Even the long punt return wasn't really his fault - that thing was in the air for more than 5 seconds. Mann has a 37.4 yard net average which is near the bottom of the league. Edited October 15, 2020 by dneveu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Yes. THIS is the real takeaway from Tuesday night's massacre... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasNootz Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 Bojo can blast them, but he lacks touch and rarely pins the opposition back. He’s not a good placeholder - and should be replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 1 hour ago, dneveu said: Bojo is 4th in the league in punting average at the moment. Also refreshing - the teams only punted 12 times in 5 weeks. His 2 TBs, and the long return have hurt his net average some (41.1)- but hes also had 2 70 yarders with no returns. Even the long punt return wasn't really his fault - that thing was in the air for more than 5 seconds. Mann has a 37.4 yard net average which is near the bottom of the league. Yup. Not sure what the alternative at kicker would have been if they took Mann instead. Hauschka is clearly washed up. 59 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Yes. THIS is the real takeaway from Tuesday night's massacre... Yes that’s what we’re saying. You got a good bead on things as usual there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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