SydneyBillsFan Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Putting aside the draft picks component, I would rather pay 10 mil per year for Diggs than Shaq. Salary cap says: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Love that we got Diggs but wow we gave up a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Diggs drawing attention away from our other guys is gonna be huge. Smoke is gonna absolutely feast on #2 corners. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 4 hours ago, Nelius said: Because he was unhappy and the relationship frayed and got to the point where it couldn't really be saved. You're right, time will tell, but he's truly just a football player with no off-the-field nonsense who doesn't otherwise display diva tendencies. If he's trashing Josh on Twitter a year from now, then it's a pattern that might fit the head case designation, but at this point I just think he's a guy who needs a fresh start. I hope so. I hope I'm wrong about the guy. The Antonio Brown thing is still pretty fresh in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Diggs is proven, young, and at a bargain rate compared to some of these other WR's around the league. He, Brown, and Beasley are a formidable trio of WR's for Allen. Draft picks are draft picks and soemone is always gonna find a reason to be pissed. Not every organization is run by Bill O'Brien so you can't expect other teams to do dumb crap like him. We got our guy, we got a #1, he's young, he's an excellent route runner, and cheap compared to the going rates at this point. Bills fans should be happy right now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 The biggest difference for the people complaining about the Diggs and Hopkins compensation comparison is that Hopkins is going to get a new deal probably in the 21-23 million dollar AAV. The Bills gave up a 1st rounder because Diggs will essentially take up half of that allowing for the Bills to spread out their cap to other positions. Much harder on the salary cap when you’d be paying Tre White 18-20 a year, Josh Allen 30-40 a year, and D’Andre Hopkins 20 plus. With a cap of 200 million, you’d be paying those 3 almost 80 million dollars or roughly 40-45% of your cap and you still need to give Dawkins and Edmunds big money in the near future 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Bronxbomber21 said: Love Diggs but could've payed less for Hopkins We also didn't have a David Johnson to offer which was obviously important to O'Brien for some reason. It's a fair trade that makes sense for both teams for where they are as a franchise. Spielman and Beane should get credit for having the guts to pull the trigger. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 54 minutes ago, Kmart128 said: Love that we got Diggs but wow we gave up a lot extra late round picks..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: I am absolutely fine with this trade. We wanted to use that 1st round pick to find a top end receiver and the draft wasn't quite lining up that way in terms of likely value at that spot. Diggs is proven, he is 26 and in his prime and he has a contract which frankly is a bargain the next 4 years. What is not to like? Oh and the people saying "Diggs is like John Brown" really, really, really need to watch some film of Stefon Diggs. Agreed. In terms of playing style and overall ability, the closest comparison to Diggs is Antonio Brown. VERY similar players. And Diggs still seems to be improving. And he’s not a psychopath. Hopkins is one of my favorite non-Bills but he appeared to lose a step last year. I would’ve loved to have him but I have no idea if that was even an option. Diggs may be a better fit for what they’re looking for, in terms of his age, contract and explosiveness. Beane was in a situation where he could’ve hoped to trade up for the top three (Lamb, Jeudy or Ruggs), which probably would’ve been even more expensive, and then, if he’s even able to pull that off, hope that a rookie WR can acclimate to the offense in a virus-shortened offseason. This was far less risk. I do think he’ll want a new deal soon, but not necessarily right away. Edited March 17, 2020 by Coach Tuesday 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSpeed Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 What this move means to me is they are in win now mode. A WR in round 1 may take a couple of years to pan out. Diggs signals now is the time. Although I probably would have gone edge in the 1st. But hey FA isn't over yet. ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Agreed. In terms of playing style and overall ability, the closest comparison to Diggs is Antonio Brown. VERY similar players. And Diggs still seems to be improving. And he’s not a psychopath. Hopkins is one of my favorite non-Bills but he appeared to lose a step last year. I would’ve loved to have him but I have no idea if that was even an option. Diggs may be a better fit for what they’re looking for, in terms of his age, contract and explosiveness. Beane was in a situation where he could’ve hoped to trade up for the top three (Lamb, Jeudy or Ruggs), which probably would’ve been even more expensive, and then, if he’s even able to pull that off, hope that a rookie WR can acclimate to the offense in a virus-shortened offseason. This was far less risk. I do think he’ll want a new deal soon, but not necessarily right away. Yep. He is very Antonio Brown like. If he wants a new deal then he is going to have to go the right way about it because after 2020 he has 3 years of contract and very little guaranteed money so he has minimal leverage. If he doesn't show up he doesn't get paid. If he produces on the field in 2020 can I see the Bills maybe reworking that contract to give him a bit extra guaranteed money as a reward? Maybe. But would have to be on their terms. Edited March 17, 2020 by GunnerBill 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantankeous Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 6 hours ago, Niagara Dude said: Too much given up Go away, troll. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 A good trade. Only thing I’m worried about is his character concerns! Not a good teammate or a good guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 6 hours ago, Rc2catch said: This is AMAZING!!! Game changing. Stop stressing the first round pick, totally fair compensation for him. I’m sure if they could of pulled Hopkins they would have but this is not a bad trade at all Congrats, I searched Diggs and you were the guy that was pushing for the bIlls to get him months ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: I am absolutely fine with this trade. We wanted to use that 1st round pick to find a top end receiver and the draft wasn't quite lining up that way in terms of likely value at that spot. Diggs is proven, he is 26 and in his prime and he has a contract which frankly is a bargain the next 4 years. What is not to like? Oh and the people saying "Diggs is like John Brown" really, really, really need to watch some film of Stefon Diggs. 100% agree. And this has the added bonus of assuaging my concerns that they'd waste 22 on a lineman. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 That contract is going to get ripped up, I love the move but the contract isn’t why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: A good trade. Only thing I’m worried about is his character concerns! Not a good teammate or a good guy! He is known for being a great guy in the Minnesota community, visits kids hospitals, hands out turkeys at Thanksgiving etc. He complained about his QB and complained about targets, big deal. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, CommonCents said: That contract is going to get ripped up, I love the move but the contract isn’t why. Hmm. I am not convinced. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Well done Mr Beane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, BruceVilanch said: He is known for being a great guy in the Minnesota community, visits kids hospitals, hands out turkeys at Thanksgiving etc. He complained about his QB and complained about targets, big deal. He complained mainly about targets. He will get plenty in this offense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: 100% agree. And this has the added bonus of assuaging my concerns that they'd waste 22 on a lineman. Yep, I was rooting hard for that pick not to be used on another defender. Hurts to give up that first round pick in such a WR-rich draft, but this shows that the Bills are in “win now” mode, which is exactly where they should be going into Josh’s third year. I hope they don’t ignore the possibility of taking another WR at 54 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 7 hours ago, turftoe said: I hate this trade. Beane just doesn't know how to trade for a WR. Corey Coleman, Kelvin Benjamin, now Diggs. Vikings GM must have a big smile on his face. Not as big as the Cardinals GM. Bills still have a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th. What are you complaining about 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) 39 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: A good trade. Only thing I’m worried about is his character concerns! Not a good teammate or a good guy! Kind of an off note post. I play plenty of fantasy football. Diggs has been a feast or famine guy. That tells me he often had poor production games. Lots of factors at play such as Minn. wanted to run the ball and Thielen was the featured WR. Just thought I'd mention it and see if there's anything to it... Edited March 17, 2020 by newcam2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Stefon would have given us 2 wins last year if he was on the team. 1) last play of the game against the ravens 2) the ball duke dropped in the end zone against Houston. He probably gets his feet inbounds too when brown couldn’t. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 39 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: A good trade. Only thing I’m worried about is his character concerns! Not a good teammate or a good guy! We'll see. I thought the same thing about Shady and he turned out okay. There was a thread a month or so ago asking if you'd trade a 1st for Diggs and I said without hesitation as long as Beane made sure he was right mentally and wouldn't turn into a distraction. I hope that's the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 27 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Hmm. I am not convinced. Schefter said on SC that he will get a new deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 18 minutes ago, mannc said: Yep, I was rooting hard for that pick not to be used on another defender. Hurts to give up that first round pick in such a WR-rich draft, but this shows that the Bills are in “win now” mode, which is exactly where they should be going into Josh’s third year. I hope they don’t ignore the possibility of taking another WR at 54 now. Unless they find a free agency solution I think it is nailed on they go pass rusher at #54. Could well see them go receiver in round 3 though and there will still be some good players there. 1 minute ago, Not at the table Karlos said: Schefter said on SC that he will get a new deal Interesting. Let's see. Moving money about I can see. Not sure they need to throw a whole heap more at him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 investment into the O at WR is exactly what I been waiting for. Diggs, Brown and Beas are nothing nice to defend against now. This is a huge year for JA. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, GETTOTHE50 said: Stefon would have given us 2 wins last year if he was on the team. 1) last play of the game against the ravens 2) the ball duke dropped in the end zone against Houston. He probably gets his feet inbounds too when brown couldn’t. So, you're assuming in both these situations the same CB would've been on Brown in both of those situations with Diggs lining up opposite him and that every play up to that point in the game wouldn't have been altered with Diggs in the lineup. You should work for WRG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said: Stefon would have given us 2 wins last year if he was on the team. 1) last play of the game against the ravens 2) the ball duke dropped in the end zone against Houston. He probably gets his feet inbounds too when brown couldn’t. It still baffles me how he didn't get his feet down, almost as much as it baffles me how every single player missed a block on that QB sweep. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) That is a mountain of compensation. I was also hoping for a large target. Hope this works out. Edited March 17, 2020 by mattynh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) With the #22 pick in the 2020 NFL Draft, the Buffalo Bills select Stefon Diggs. Who is upset about that? The 4th and 5th are from a couple of nobodies the Bills dealt to suckers. The "that's too much to give up" crowd befuddles me. This team is in it to win it and Diggs is a HUGE, proven piece. Edited March 17, 2020 by eball 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: A good trade. Only thing I’m worried about is his character concerns! Not a good teammate or a good guy! Why is he not a good guy ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, mattynh said: That is a mountain of compensation Bills had three 5ths and two 6ths from the Teller and Bodine trades. Let's just say Beane moved the Cleveland picks to simplify it. Buffalo sends #22, the Wyatt Teller picks (CLE's 2020 5th and 6th) and a 2021 4th Buffalo gets Diggs and a 2020 7th Projection guys think the Lawson signing could net Buffalo a 2021 4th compensatory pick also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 So with the 22 overall pick in the nfl draft the bills select a proven stud wr and home run threat in his prime, under contract for a while. I Digg 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Maybe we need to get a new MOD. This topic was closed. Please explain why Please show me in these 32 pages the video I linked in this post PLEASE! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 I wonder if Beane is thinking about trading back into rd1 or beginning of rd2 for an edge rusher. Realistically with all these draft picks, there just isn't room on the roster for them to make the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, Protocal69 said: Maybe we need to get a new MOD. This topic was closed. Please explain why Please show me in these 32 pages the video I linked in this post PLEASE! Thank you, no THANK YOU! Add it then. It doesn’t need its own thread when numerous videos of his performances ARE here. Dry your eyes, sunshine. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, MikeSpeed said: What this move means to me is they are in win now mode. A WR in round 1 may take a couple of years to pan out. Diggs signals now is the time. Although I probably would have gone edge in the 1st. But hey FA isn't over yet. ? of course we are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Bills go from one of the worst wr groups in 2018, to one of the best in 2020. Diggs, brown, beasley and hopefully Duke can be a solid 4. Dang. Nice beane 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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