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6 minutes ago, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said:

This loss is on Josh and his inability to hit on any deep passes. The two he missed were the difference in the game.  No point in a cannon if you can’t hit anything with it...

 

BS; he's part to blame.  But he did pass them down for the go ahead score and then drove them down for the tying FG.  The defense let them marched down the field.

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2 minutes ago, clayboy54 said:

And what about K.C. losing to Tennessee WITH the GOAT Mahomes?

That dude isn’t all that. Last week may have been the first time Hill had to extend for a ball, most of the time Mahomes is under throwing him. 

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1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said:

The third and three play where josh threw incomplete deep to Beasley, who was double-covered, changed the game.

 

But Levi Wallace losing track of Higgins lost the game.

Actually 2missed FG's lost the game, but yeah, ***** play all around.

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Let’s face it we still don’t have enough talent on offense. Josh was mediocre, his right tackles are terrible so they can’t run right or throw deep without him getting hit in the face, and the WRs aren’t getting much separation if any. The world has now seen Beasley’s inside out swirl move 100 times. It’s no longer a surprise. Frank gets 1-4 yards and I feel like walking out of the room when we go to giant man package like we are the 1980 Cornhuskers. 

The coordinator has one  group of plays that always work, the jet sweep package, and he didn’t use hardly any. He has a RB with open field abilities yet throws him the ball 3 yards from the sideline.

Then our GM spent $7MM on some guy named Kroft who may actually not have left the locker room, not sure..........uggggghhhhh 

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1 minute ago, TwistofFate said:

Allen missed multiple deep passes, very inaccurate throughout the game, fumbled again, and still can't hit a Wr consistently in stride. 

 

There is no excuse for him.   Wrs were wide open all day, he had tons of time in the pocket the majority of the day and he failed to produce. 

 

If we are really looking to make the playoffs and actually win a game, its time to put Barkley in there. 

 

I doubt this will happen because they want to "develop" Allen,  but its clear he's not improving.  

 

There is no reason he shouldn't be light-years ahead of last year.   We've brought in RBs,  Wrs, TEs, and offensive linemen to build around him.   He has not shown anything to show improvement.  

 

Wins me NOTHING at this point as our wins have come against the worst teams in the league by way of last ditch efforts. 

 

Im completely disgusted over his performance today against a 2-6 team with the 21st ranked pass defense.  

 

Enough of the excuses.  Qb position is a SERIOUS concern. 

 

if you're that frustrated, go find another hobby, or another team.

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It’s a game the Bills could have pulled out but I don’t understand how anyone is shocked. 2-6 coming in aside, the Browns have more talent than the teams we’ve beaten. We’ve struggled for long stretches against the worst teams in the league almost from the beginning of the season. I’m glad the Bills have a winning record and are in playoff contention but they aren’t an exceptionally good team. 

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Just now, dubs said:

Blaming play calling is ignorant. 
 

these players need to make plays. It starts with Allen and the Oline.

 

the NFL isn’t techmo bowl when picking the wrong play is a jailbreak. 

 

 

 

...I agree...Daboll is a meld of Marchibroda and Coryell........his one year OC stops were teams letting a great one slip away......SMH....

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Starting to seriously question if Josh Allen can improve. Right now it just doesn’t seem so and this is exactly who he might be. And if what we are watching is what Allen “might be”. It isn’t good enough 

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Josh Allen hasn't been good, this much we know is true.  But neither has Mayfield or Darnold.  Could it be that these guys still need more time against NFL defenses?  Could it be that these three have s**t for OC's, especially Allen?  Put Allen in Baltimore, Seattle, NE, or even Arizona and I'll bet he's MUCH better...just a hunch.

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1 minute ago, unclepete said:

Where do you see 10 wins? Pats, Steelers, ravens and cowboys are still left. 

Um, well, I guess you have a point w/ the Ravens.  

 

We can beat the Pats, Steelers and Cowboys. Not that we'll win all of those, but it's not like the latter 2 are juggernauts, and the Pats will be competitive.

 

Are you just penciling in a loss against every decent team?

 

 

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Just now, dubs said:

Blaming play calling is ignorant. 
 

these players need to make plays. It starts with Allen and the Oline.

 

the NFL isn’t techmo bowl when picking the wrong play is a jailbreak. 

 

Someone needs to explain what happened on that last 3rd down sequence.

 

Even a pee wee football player knows to hurry the frig up.

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Plenty of room to win this easily if Josh was good at all, but he wasn't. Numbers don't much matter either. As it is, we still could have won if Hauschka makes it kicks..but we'll never have a good lead with Josh playing as he does he's just not a good QB. 

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As for everyone jumping off bridges cause we lost to an inferior team, take a look at the Chiefs and the Saints today. Who we are isn't defined by this loss.. unfortunately it's becoming quite clear that unless we stop getting in our own damn way, we're not gonna win when the chips are down.

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1 minute ago, Jasovon said:

Well sure if you didn't watch the game and have no understanding of playcalling QB was definitely a concern. 

 

 

I watched the game, play calling is not the issue.   The plays were absolutely there.   Our Qb failed miserably at execution. 

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2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

The third and three play where josh threw incomplete deep to Beasley, who was double-covered, changed the game.

 

But Levi Wallace losing track of Higgins lost the game.


SO MUCH THIS. 

 

That 3rd down playcall stuck in my head all game.   

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Here's how I see it...

 

We need to win the next two. We should win the next two.

 

We'll be 8-3, and then we will be underdogs in the next four. By the same token that we should win the next two, we should lose those four.

 

We might end up 8-7 and hoping to beat the Jets to go 9-7 and squeak into the playoffs. Disappointing.

 

Issues:

  • Hauschka
  • Run defense
  • Allen playing too "in control"/soft and not hitting the deep ball. Where's the passion on the sidelines we used to see? It's like he's trying to stay "within himself" and be too careful.
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