YoloinOhio Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 (edited) Edited September 27, 2019 by YoloinOhio 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 B.S. he might not have a analytic team or group, but he looks at football an analytic way. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 (edited) Any coach that goes for it on 4th and short when they aren't losing is using analytics whether they think so or not. Edited September 27, 2019 by The Wiz 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He doesn't have to when he's got Ernie Adams behind the scenes who has a mind like no other that can remember opponents personnel/formations/plays and feed Bill details of what's more than likely to happen on the field. Edited September 27, 2019 by The Jokeman 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Just now, Mat68 said: B.S. he might not have a analytic team or group, but he looks at football an analytic way. In game is the key thing here. They have that mathematician that runs team tendencies don't they? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 that's a huge lie. ernie adams is widely considered the pats guy with that. but they've never said what he actually does. the pats have been ahead of everyone with how their offense is used with the quick throws and screens and getting away from the run game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 (edited) I pray for a day, in the not too distant future, were we can stop quoting every meaningless mumbling utterance of that intolerable ass. And Brady as well. Edited September 27, 2019 by RoyBatty is alive 6 3 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 minute ago, The Jokeman said: He doesn't have to when he's got Ernie Adams behind the scenes who has a mind like no other that can remember opponents personnel/formations/plays and feed Bill details of what's more than likely to happen on the field. Exactly, Ernie Adams is a huge reason for the pats* success and he’s doing nothing but analytics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: He doesn't have to when he's got Ernie Adams behind the scenes who has a mind like no other that can remember opponents personnel/formations/plays like no other and feed Bill details of what's more than likely to happen on the field. 3 minutes ago, Juice_32 said: Exactly, Ernie Adams is a huge reason for the pats* success and he’s doing nothing but analytics. Yep. Adams definitely relies on analytics and feeds that information to Belichick, so, he is lying...again Adams is also the guy that received and used the tapes in "Spygate," so, f*** him. Cheaters... Edited September 27, 2019 by billsfan1959 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 12 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Video cameras =/= analytics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, The Wiz said: Any coach that goes for it on 4th and short when they aren't losing is using analytics whether they think so or not. Not really. The idea would be to have knowledge of the process and utilize that process in your decision making. If you are ignorant of the process, you aren't "using" analytics, although analytics could be used to explain your decision. There is no way in hell New England does not have analytics people...and if they don't, they're a lot dumber than I thought. 8 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: In game is the key thing here. They have that mathematician that runs team tendencies don't they? I would guarantee they have this sort of stuff. I would also suggest BB is deliberately being somewhat coy in his remarks here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 18 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: I pray for a day, in the not to distant future, were we can stop quoting every meaningless mumbling utterance of that intolerable ass. And Brady as well. and the analytics folks as well, add them to the pile 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Mat68 said: B.S. he might not have a analytic team or group, but he looks at football an analytic way. I’m guessing his answer reflects his belief that ‘analytics’ is an overly broad term (which it is), making it kind of a pointless question. Really, asking what part analyzing data plays in game preparation? Why not ask what part ‘strategy’ or ‘planning’ play in game prep? ? Edited September 27, 2019 by KD in CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, Mat68 said: B.S. he might not have a analytic team or group, but he looks at football an analytic way. Some people can do it in their head. Others need to have it done for them or purchase it from a vendor. The people who don't need help are always more successful than those who do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 I have it on good authority that Belichick hired Ol' Khaki Pants after we got rid of him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 I believe it; he's been around and successful for so long that any situation which arises he instinctively knows what to do. That and the illegal film helps; plus the refs give him beneficial calls. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Why use, analytics when you have cheatalytics!! ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwhit34 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 From the Patriots media guide: DIRECTOR OF RESEARCH Richard Miller is in his 24th season with the Patriots. Miller joined the Patriots as Player Compensation Analyst in March 1996 and was promoted to Director of Research in 2001. Miller is responsible for managing the Patriots salary cap and player costs; player contract research and statistical trends; financial and strategic planning; and assisting the personnel department with draft, free agency and game advance analytics. A native of Hortonville, Wis., Miller graduated from Carroll University with bachelor’s degree in finance and economics in 1993 and from Brandeis University with a master’s degree in international economics in 1996. Miller also matriculated at Aberystwyth University in Wales and the National University of Singapore. Miller resides in Franklin, Mass., with his wife, Sharon, and two sons, Colin and Joshua. Matt Lindsay is in his third season as a data analyst for the New England Patriots. Lindsay joined the organization as an intern in January 2017 before joining the staff full time in June of 2018. Lindsay played wide receiver and tight end at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology where he graduated in 2017 with a degree in math and physics. Born and raised in Batavia, Ill., Lindsay graduated from Wheaton Academy where he played football. They also have an IT director that has been with them 20 years that maintains research databases, amongst other things. So they utilize analytics just like everyone else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 (edited) One of the great in game decisions of all time letting the clock run on Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson before the Malcolm Butler interception. Edited September 27, 2019 by Charles Romes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 18 minutes ago, Charles Romes said: One of the great in game decisions of all time letting the clock run on Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson before the Malcom Butler interception. letting Mike Martz outsmart himself, letting Andy Reid crap the bed during the last 2 minutes of a close game.... he did get burned on two of the luckiest completions in football history by the Giants, so analytics goblins are taking credit for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 22 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: I have it on good authority that Belichick hired Ol' Khaki Pants after we got rid of him. Didn’t we get a comp pick for that guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 That is a clever answer "Less than zero" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 No pass rush win rate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Didn’t we get a comp pick for that guy? We won too many out of conference games and were disqualified from receiving a compensatory pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 He uses Ernie Adams, and lord knows what Ernie does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalostu2 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Would he tell anyone if he did? Plus who needs analytics when you can just cheat ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, buffalostu2 said: Would he tell anyone if he did? Plus who needs analytics when you can just cheat ? Analytics helps provide him the best method of cheating. Not all cheats work the same on every team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 He uses being smarter than everyone else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Who needs analytics when you have state of the art covert surveillance systems and radio jamming electronics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 i doubt there are too many people who could hang in a football chat with Bill if he was being evasive, certainly not anyone with a laptop who never played football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Why does anybody listen to anything he says to the media? Everything he says is to manipulate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 58 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: He doesn't have to when he's got Ernie Adams behind the scenes who has a mind like no other that can remember opponents personnel/formations/plays and feed Bill details of what's more than likely to happen on the field. So, Darth Vader relies on Rain Man? ? 9 minutes ago, row_33 said: i doubt there are too many people who could hang in a football chat with Bill if he was being evasive, certainly not anyone with a laptop who never played football Well, that has me feeling deflated...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 He'll probably get fired over his lack of innovation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Schopp is in dismay, how can the best team for 20 yrs not use the Holy Analytics ??? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 hour ago, The Wiz said: Any coach that goes for it on 4th and short when they aren't losing is using analytics whether they think so or not. Not so. If something happens to line up with what analytics say, that doesn't mean you are using analytics. It means that your decision happened to align with the analytics. People can make happy mistakes all the time. 1 hour ago, Mat68 said: B.S. he might not have a analytic team or group, but he looks at football an analytic way. Analytics is not referring to being analytical. It refers to statistical analysis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 lol they asked about IN GAME decisions.. I'm not shocked that doesnt factor in then for BB at all.. as for the 4 and short decisions if ahead... I know one was because who the QB he was facing and he believed our offense had a better chance than our Defense.. (wasnt stats but a gutt and eye test really) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 50 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: So, Darth Vader relies on Rain Man? ? Well, that has me feeling deflated...? one sportpodcastmouthdude a few years ago stated that baseball is for dumb people, one reason was there is no way a lot of people could discuss serious strategy with an NFL football coach if he wasn't going to respect you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 hour ago, The Wiz said: Any coach that goes for it on 4th and short when they aren't losing is using analytics whether they think so or not. I think Belichick does it just to rub your nose in it. He’s that kinda guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 i recall teams going for it on 4th down when they aren't losing all the way back to 1973 it's not a miracle Einstein kind of thing just thought up in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Jokeman said: He doesn't have to when he's got Ernie Adams behind the scenes who has a mind like no other that can remember opponents personnel/formations/plays and feed Bill details of what's more than likely to happen on the field. Right- he has the best analytics guy in the game. It’s a BB answer of the highest degree to say analytics arent really used there. Edited September 27, 2019 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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