row_33 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 12 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Right- he has the best analytics guy in the game. It’s a BB answer of the highest degree to say analytics arent really used there. no you are getting it... actually who could possibly know besides the 3 other people with whom he honestly opens up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Charles Romes said: One of the great in game decisions of all time letting the clock run on Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson before the Malcolm Butler interception. Agreed. I said it at the time. He just spooked them and made them out think themselves. He realised at that point his only way of winning was forcing a mistake from the Seahawks so he gave them enough rope and.... well the rest is history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 hour ago, MJS said: Not so. If something happens to line up with what analytics say, that doesn't mean you are using analytics. It means that your decision happened to align with the analytics. People can make happy mistakes all the time. Analytics is not referring to being analytical. It refers to statistical analysis. There is a reason why he goes against common trends in the NFL. Whether it's his defenses, his offenses, him and his staff know the win/loss rate of sub packages vs defenses. Call it what you want. When you look at the metric NE is always around the top of the league it's not a coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 People are saying he doesn’t use numbers either. Like ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Bull puckey, the guy uses everything, legal or otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 If you read the article he doesn’t use them to decide when to go for two as opposed to the PAT. He admittedly uses them for scouting, contracts, and tech. Click Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 far superior to Andy Reid looking at that chart in his hand as if it's suddenly been translated to Swahili or Mandarin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Weird. I could of sworn I read an article last year talking about how awesome the Pats analytics department is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Scott7975 said: Weird. I could of sworn I read an article last year talking about how awesome the Pats analytics department is. The Pats, as an organization, use them. Belichick just says that he does not use them, as a coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: The Pats, as an organization, use them. Belichick just says that he does not use them, as a coach. Ah that could be I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 If you hold your 2 pointer fingers up in front of your eyes just right, the title says: Bill Belichick does Anal. Go ahead, try it. No one's looking. (Tip: keep one eye closed) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 24 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Weird. I could of sworn I read an article last year talking about how awesome the Pats analytics department is. they find a loophole in the rulebook that destroys the opposition best was the innovative O-line formation against the Colts in the playoffs a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, row_33 said: they find a loophole in the rulebook that destroys the opposition best was the innovative O-line formation against the Colts in the playoffs a few years ago. I'm pretty sure that was against the Ravens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said: I'm pretty sure that was against the Ravens. i sit here corrected again... thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: He has not found a way to apply it to cheating which is his major skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Mat68 said: There is a reason why he goes against common trends in the NFL. Whether it's his defenses, his offenses, him and his staff know the win/loss rate of sub packages vs defenses. Call it what you want. When you look at the metric NE is always around the top of the league it's not a coincidence. Leading up to games, sure, but BB said he doesn't make decisions in the game based on analytics. Sometimes analytics just align with common sense. How many times have Bills fans shaken their heads when our coaches have made bad decisions in the past 20 years? Are fans experts at analytics, or was the decision just obvious and analytics happened to agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 15 minutes ago, MJS said: Leading up to games, sure, but BB said he doesn't make decisions in the game based on analytics. Sometimes analytics just align with common sense. How many times have Bills fans shaken their heads when our coaches have made bad decisions in the past 20 years? Are fans experts at analytics, or was the decision just obvious and analytics happened to agree? like everything else number-driven, analytics solve all problems, or they would have if you had only listened to them, they gave you 60 game plans and one with perfect hindsight turned out to be the right one see how easy this is? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't use analytics. And like that *Whoo* he won 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: When your good at cheating don’t need analytics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 5 hours ago, aristocrat said: that's a huge lie. ernie adams is widely considered the pats guy with that. but they've never said what he actually does. the pats have been ahead of everyone with how their offense is used with the quick throws and screens and getting away from the run game. Sort've yes, but last year they led the league in rushing. Belichick can adapt, and knows teams have been loading up on their nickel, big nickel, and dime packages to counter their short throws....so his solution was to scheme ways to get his RB to the 2nd level where it is Sony with a head of steam vs DB's and Safeties. It is a mismatch he exploited quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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