78thealltimegreat Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Basically do you prefer a Hollywood Brown or an AJ Brown type? Cause I’m in Hollywood’s camp can’t teach off the top of the defense speed like that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Can i have both? 9 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 It doesn't make a difference to me as long as they are a true play maker. I'm looking for a WR that can make contested catches, create problems and be open even when he is not. How he goes about doing that is not important IMO. Size, speed, route running, whatever. Just get me someone in here that can win against 1v1 coverage consistently. To me, there is little difference between having a potential player like AJ Green vs Tyrek Hill....vastly different skill sets, yet both a threat at all times. However, the pieces you choose to supplement your number one talent with is probably more reliant on a particular measureable, whether it is speed or size, based on what your true one offers. Jmo 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Type doesn’t matter to me. 1)Route running and 2) hands do. Big enough/fast enough to get separation but otherwise don’t care. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddo Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Ideally you want both. Not so easy to come by, obviously. Whichever way you do go though, it needs to be someone who can actually catch the pigskin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Between the two, I’d prefer Hollywood. But neither one is in my top 5 WRs for this class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacoy38 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Speed- I think of solely size guys and I’ve got bad memories of Benjamin ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 We need a guy that has a big catch radius because Josh's weakness is his accuracy. Go for the guy with the ability to make the tough, off-target catches. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardb1952 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I'd think you'd like at least one WR/TE that is a reliable target even when not open. Definitely need the speed as Foster was able to generate pressure on defense as year progressed. The big guy/ big target didn't do much for the Bills last year and the offense appears to have gotten better after Holmes/ KB were released. Dabol looks like he was able to put WRs in position to make plays, but need WRs that can catch balls and make plays. Big, tall, slower/ shorter, faster is less important than getting open and making plays. I would like to see a few WOW plays from these guys, something I seldom saw this last year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cage Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I want guys like Michael Thomas... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I like wide receivers who can catch. I'm sure that sounds obvious and silly. But honestly, I'm tired of watching balls bounce of the hands and shoulders of our wide-open receivers. Meanwhile, guys on the other teams make incredible leaping finger-tip grabs and drag their toes in bounds, while draped in coverage. Their method for getting open - speed, size, route running - doesn't really matter to me. Just make the catch when it comes your way. If I had to pattern my receiving corps after another team, it would be Seattle. They aren't "big names" by any means. But those guys are always making amazing catches. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideRightRevenge Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 All I want is someone who aggressively wants the rock and can highpoint the ball with gluelike hands 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Speed, with intelligence to run good routes and good hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinxedBill1 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Both. Ultimately I think speed is better for Allen with a strong emphasis on hands, ball tracking, and route running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 size by far. need someone who can catch off target throws and jump balls after allen scrambles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I take speed over size but like a little variety and if we can grab a dude with both that’s always nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Somebody that tries would be nice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 WR for Allen....speed Ask a woman...size 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) I think they can go for either now with the addition of Duke Williams. Before that I would have said Big WR. We saw what a Big WR can do even to an elite CB when we played Detroit. Edited January 10, 2019 by formerlyofCtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Whoever they take needs to have some combination of both. It’s really hard to find a guy with both elite size and speed. If I have to choose one, give me elite speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 BOTH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Someone who has speed, that can separate and catch. That's it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) We need receivers that can catch the damn ball! Edited January 9, 2019 by Nanker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Basically do you prefer a Hollywood Brown or an AJ Brown type? Cause I’m in Hollywood’s camp can’t teach off the top of the defense speed like that I prefer a Larry Fitzgerald/Hines Ward type. Guys with good speed who know how to get open and create separation. Big receivers seem to be easily dominated for long stretches in a game at times unless they are exceptional talents like megatron was. Another Andre Reed would be exactly what this team needs. I personally feel he was arguably the most unique mix of speed, toughness, and skill I've ever witnessed short of Jerry Rice and John Taylor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Give me Hakeem Butler who has the perfect blend of size, speed and YAC ability. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 A mixture is the way to go. If you choose speed and a physical group of CBs press, you can use your taller physical targets. Speed is always needed but you need a mixture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I prefer hands myself, without that the other two mean nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
******* Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 It’s 2019. Speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I’ve never understood this obsession with speed. All of these can run. The difference between them is minimal at best. On the contrary, all of them cannot run a precise route, fight for, and catch the ball with a defender on them...which happens on every play in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) My ideal guy would be a player like Keenan Allen, Michael Thomas, or Deondre Hopkins. They all have enough size and enough speed, but are not exceptional in either of those categories. They are just exceptional at playing the position of WR. Edited January 9, 2019 by YoloinOhio 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) Ideally it’s both. If you have to pick it’s speed. Look how different the offense was when they inserted speed. Allen is going to have to throw the ball down the field to open everything else up. Once they started doing that they were inifinitely more productive. He’s never going to be a 70% completion guy and that’s fine. Make big plays and keep the field spread. Edited January 9, 2019 by Kirby Jackson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, lacoy38 said: Speed- I think of solely size guys and I’ve got bad memories of Benjamin ! Size works really well if there is some semblance of effort - especially regarding blocking. But beyond just blocking - shedding press coverage you will have an advantage with size. You also obviously have height advantage for jump balls and 50/50 passes. None of this matters if you can't run routes to get open, or catch the ball. The size receivers we brought in could not get open OR catch the ball. AJ Green, Mike Evans - to a lesser extent Funchess, M. Williams, Golladay, and Sutton. When these guys are getting open, and making plays - very hard to stop those offenses. They're a mismatch on every play and if they're physical blockers its even better. 7 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Ideally it’s both. If you have to pick it’s speed. Look how different the offense was when they inserted speed. Allen is going to have to throw the ball down the field to open everything else up. Once they started doing that they were inifinitely more productive. He’s never going to be a 70% completion guy and that’s fine. Make big plays and keep the field spread. Can't stretch the field without size, and you'll struggle against press coverage with only speed. Route running and hands really are the most important assets though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 After watching this season I just want somebody who can catch the damn ball and is good at running routes with speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 2 hours ago, lacoy38 said: Speed- I think of solely size guys and I’ve got bad memories of Benjamin ! I agree, at the moment... But I think back to when Bills fans gave Marquis Goodwin the moniker "Glass". WR styles are like politics: one election swings right, and the people eventually get pissed; next election comes, and they swing left; then they get disappointed and swing back... ad infinitum. I jut want somebody who can catch the ball. Is that too much to ask? I think we drafted Zay with that in mind (CFB record for career receptions), but he got the yips (year 1), then came down with a nasty case of the Peterman-and-journeymen-are-passing-me-the-footballs (part of year two). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Speed and hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: Give me Hakeem Butler who has the perfect blend of size, speed and YAC ability. This is my choice if they move back in the first. I like his game a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I want one that separates and catches. Size doesn’t matter as much if he can do those 2 things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Before free agency and the draft last off season, Buffalo had a good bit of size, and not a lot of speed. Robert Foster was an afterthought who was not expected to contribute much, He would be a fringe player on the team. It became evident the Bills' receiving corps didn't have a lot of playmaking ability, so they jettisoned the beached whale (Kelvin Benjamin) and Andre Holmes and went small and fast. Foster, BTW isn't that small. At 6'1" he's pretty average for an NFL receiver. At the end of the season, they had very little size at receiver. Duke Williams adds a little bit back to the lineup, but it's uncertain whether his CFL success will translate to the NFL as his speed is well below average for an NFL receiver. I thinkl Buffalo will probably target size, but Iwould like to see them try to get one of the speedier big guys like Butler or DK Metcalf. I am eagerly waiting for the combine to see how fast they really are. Butler, BTW, while he appears to have long speed, doesn't really have short area quickness to creat separation underneath. In that area of the field he depends on his strength, size advantage and catch radius (all of which are impressive) to outbattle DBs for the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 3 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Basically do you prefer a Hollywood Brown or an AJ Brown type? Cause I’m in Hollywood’s camp can’t teach off the top of the defense speed like that I will take both by drafting Metcalf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Give me the most disciplined route runner who can catch a ball. Jerry Rice wasn't the fastest WR but he's often remembered as the best route runner in the history of the NFL. Joe Montana and Steve Young could throw that ball wihtout hesitation because they knew Rice was going to be there. It's what seperates the Julio Jones and Antonio Browns from the Mike Wallaces and John Rosses. Jones/Brown is a great route runner who is fast. Wallace and Ross are really fast but are sloppy route runners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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