YoloinOhio Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 id pick it up, hes been developing nicely 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 How much? We have the cap space, I’d do it unless you think you can decline it and sign him for less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Yeah he needs to come back. He’s not the pass rushing monster we all hoped with the high draft status but he has carved out a very valuable niche in this defense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share Posted December 31, 2018 I say yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Just need to find a way to keep him around. Worst case scenario he is good depth for us. Best case scenario he continues to develop. If that means taking the 5th year option at 9-10 mil so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: Yeah he needs to come back. He’s not the pass rushing monster we all hoped with the high draft status but he has carved out a very valuable niche in this defense you absolutely bring him back, he deserves to stay on this team with the plays he's made. Obviously he's not an elite DE but he does have an impact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I'll chip in $5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Skip it. IF he plays well tag him....it will cost about the same anyhow and it will keep him hungry. if not, the Bills just dump him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I think he bought in to the process and worked hard to improve. He batted down a lot of passes and set a strong edge. But best of all he took on L. Fournette and got the stadium and the team all riled up. That was great. I hope they keep him, and even consider an extension. 6 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 No way you pick that up. He is not worth 10 million guaranteed. Back to back 4 sack seasons. Just sign him to a contract extension with multiple years. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I’d offer him a contract for 5-7 million a year for 3-5 years and decent guarantees. I doubt he’d get better on the market. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 minute ago, aceman_16 said: he plays well tag him Buffalo needs to avoid a reputation as a tagging team. If you have a rep for tagging, that's a turn-off for free agents that visit. Buffalo is going to have a hard time attracting free agents as it is, last thing needed is a rep for tagging. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Just now, boater said: Buffalo needs to avoid a reputation as a tagging team. If you have a rep for tagging, that's a turn-off for free agents that visit. Buffalo is going to have a hard time attracting free agents as it is, last thing needed is a rep for tagging. What? I agree to disagree with you. Pretty much EVERY team uses it. Also, the 5th year option is "essentially" the same thing as a tag. The player is one more year obligated to the team without anything they can do about it. IF anything. He would make more with a tag vs the option. I wouldnt undersell the "influence" or sure money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Definitely earned it, unless you want to resign a longer contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I was reading elsewhere that as the 5th year option is only guaranteed for injury, they can pick it up in the off season and then change their minds at the end of the season ... presumably if they are not happy with his play in 2019.. I was very much on the fence about him at the start of this year but he has stepped up this season ., I would like to see him get a second contract... seems like it’s been a few years that one of their rookies has done this.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Depends on what my other options are. So far in his career, shaq is just a guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 What's the cost of the 5th year option? He is under contract for 2019 so you can let him play it out. I am not sure if I would pick it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 37 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Of course, they have to review the tape. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 The guy improved all year, bought in, and showed his potential on Sunday. Why wouldn't you keep him around? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I find it hard to pick up that option for a situational defensive end whose specialty isn't pass rushing. He's in on about 44% of the defensive snaps and I think a lot of that was due to injuries. I think he's done a decent job of contributing. Now if they can work themselves out of the Murphy contract - that may be a scenario I can see them wanting a 1 year band aid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) Slowly he seems to keep getting better. I’d keep him around Edited December 31, 2018 by BananaB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: What's the cost of the 5th year option? He is under contract for 2019 so you can let him play it out. I am not sure if I would pick it up. We don’t know exactly yet but it’s based on position you play and where you were drafted in the first round.. Looking at last year’s numbers it would be around $9 to max $10 mil.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: We don’t know exactly yet but it’s based on position you play and where you were drafted in the first round.. Looking at last year’s numbers it would be around $9 to max $10 mil.. If its between 9-10 million I would decline it. Shaq is still here for 2019 so the team can get one more year to evaluate him and if he breaks out he can be franchised and a deal can be worked out. I don't think there are many major players that will be free agents from the 2016 draft class that would require the tag anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 He is worth it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said: He is worth it. Yup. If no extension, gotta pick up 5th year. He’s earned it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I'm glad they have another 4 months to decide. Maybe free agency and the draft will give a clearer picture. DE is a little thin for the Bills. Hughes played pretty well but is 31 and Murphy did not impress me that much. What's left Yarbrough and Mike Love. Shaq improved no doubt but $9 - 10 M is pretty sizable for 44% snap count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Wouldn't surprise me if they picked it up. Some players take a little longer to develop than others. He's shown flexibility by lining up both inside and outside. And he really came on over the last few games. I dunno what Miami was thinking but he and Hughes both embarrassed O'Leary yesterday. If anyone had any remaining questions as to why that guy got cut then there ya go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, DCbillsfan said: I'm glad they have another 4 months to decide. Maybe free agency and the draft will give a clearer picture. DE is a little thin for the Bills. Hughes played pretty well but is 31 and Murphy did not impress me that much. What's left Yarbrough and Mike Love. Shaq improved no doubt but $9 - 10 M is pretty sizable for 44% snap count. I am not sure how you base an evaluation on snap count as Bills like a rotation. He has improved his play significantly. I would like to keep him around. How that gets done is above my pay grade : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 No way we offer 5th year option.Waay too much $$ for a guy who’s just beginning to understand what it takes to be in the NFL. Fine Season? Sure, but not top 10 at the position. Hes never impressed me as being very bright, so I’m sure he believes he’s worth big buck$. I predict he’ll refuse any long term manageable contract offer and seek greener pastures. Making another hole to fill this off season.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Lawson has improved quite a bit, but the board sentiment before the finale against Miami would have been different. I trust the FO to evaluate the entire season and make determinations based on the long term body of work. This Miami game was kind of like the first Jets game in that the Bills were facing a somewhat disinterested opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskibreth Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Ittakestime said: No way you pick that up. He is not worth 10 million guaranteed. Back to back 4 sack seasons. Just sign him to a contract extension with multiple years. 1 hour ago, whatdrought said: I’d offer him a contract for 5-7 million a year for 3-5 years and decent guarantees. I doubt he’d get better on the market. This is what they should try to do. Lock him up for a few years. It gets him back to the bargaining table for a big payday (provided that performance is there) before his career is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 For those of you who say Tag him, the franchise tag is much higher than the 5th year option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Damn.....time sure does fly. Hard to believe it's been that long. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 As others have mentioned, I’d explore a long term deal but certainly not at 10 million a year. 3 years for 20 million sounds about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Keep him on. He is good depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, FearLess Price said: Keep him on. He is good depth Depth at what cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 At least Beane won’t need to worry about resigning/extending any of the other 2016 picks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) I'd say you have to try to get him into a long term contract, but the 5th yr option isnt bad if the staff has doubts. We'd get a decent DE for 2 more yrs with no recourse beyond that. What would total cost be for next yr and 2020? Edited January 1, 2019 by Captain_Quint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 3 hours ago, boater said: Buffalo needs to avoid a reputation as a tagging team. If you have a rep for tagging, that's a turn-off for free agents that visit. Buffalo is going to have a hard time attracting free agents as it is, last thing needed is a rep for tagging. This is just false. We've heard it before.......see Levy/Jauron granting all the player requests to be traded and not tagged..........didn't help in free agency a bit..........in fact it attracted the attention of a certain sharky agent named Eugene who saw a weakness in resolve and exploited it. The slippery slope effect was catastrophic. It finally stopped when Buddy told Aaron Schobel to get bent when he said he'd only play if he could stay in Texas all week and fly in for games. But even then it cost them a stud pass rusher that probably had 3-4 more years in him. May this organization never return to that. The CBA gives you a pimp hand for a reason. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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