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Shaq Lawson 5th year option on the table

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5 hours ago, eball said:

The guy improved all year, bought in, and showed his potential on Sunday.  Why wouldn't you keep him around?

 

 

And we know now from the thread, article, and what we’ve heard on this board that the kid had turned the corner and shown another level of dedication.

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7 hours ago, whatdrought said:

I’d offer him a contract for 5-7 million a year for 3-5 years and decent guarantees. I doubt he’d get better on the market.

I'd take that deal. I think he's developing nicely.

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I won't embrace mediocrity with this team any longer, He is a below average pass rusher that can be upgraded, 10 sacks in 3 seasons is nowhere near good enough imo.

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He kinda sucks, I’m not excited because he “tried” harder in a contract year. He is still the last guy off on the snap and he talks more than he plays. This is a 3/15 5 guaranteed type of player, picking up the option would be bananas.

 

Shaq fits the definition of replacement level player, just good enough to keep and just bad enough to keep losing games.

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I think McBeane appreciates the development curve of Shaq Lawson more than most of us. I expect them to figure this out. Lets keep our own please. As long as they show the ability.

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2 hours ago, CommonCents said:

He kinda sucks, I’m not excited because he “tried” harder in a contract year.

 

I wouldn't be excited about that, either, if it were true.

 

Except that it's not.

 

Lawson is under contract next year, and the Bills have the option of picking up his 5th year option for the season after that. (I don't know if they will exercise this option. But, let's agree on the facts first.)

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8 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Depending on the price I would actually NOT pick up his 5th year option

 

I would however try to sign him to a reasonable extension

 

if we don't pick it up and then try to low ball him, he'll say FU Buffalo and sign with Seattle where he will lead the league in sacks for the next 5 years.

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Pick it up..already have a lot of positions to fill....don't add another

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He certainly played as well as Murphy and his attitude has improved considerably. I'd like to see him get another year to compete for the starting job at LDE with Murphy. I think Murphy was a mistake, but maybe it's just getting over his serious injury that held him back. I could see both of them playing better in 2019.

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I’d try and sign him to a long term deal under the option amount.  No way I’m renting him for 10 million for one year.  

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Yes used the 5th year option if you do not get a long term extension done. 

 

Right now now is the time to do it. He is developing  nicely. But has not “Broke” out with the eye popping stats that will cost big money. So sign sign them to like a 

 

6 years 42M with 27 guaranteed. You have him at current value and than cheap if he does “break” out 

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One way or another, get him signed and locked in for the next several years. We haven't seen his ceiling yet.

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16 hours ago, boater said:

 

Buffalo needs to avoid a reputation as a tagging team.

 

If you have a rep for tagging, that's a turn-off for free agents that visit. Buffalo is going to have a hard time attracting free agents as it is, last thing needed is a rep for tagging.

 

I would be shocked if they tagged him. He's not worth that.

This draft is loaded with DLine talent.

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17 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

 

I would prefer to see the Bills try to work out an extension and not use the 5th year tag.  I like the team better with Lawson on it and he is a good enough player to remain on the team, but the 5th year option is typically a bit more pricey than he deserves for his play.  

 

Either way - they have the room and I would rather see them retain Lawson than let him go - so my preference is extension first, then option if needed.

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17 hours ago, aceman_16 said:

Skip it. IF he plays well tag him....it will cost about the same anyhow and it will keep him hungry.  if not, the Bills just dump him.

If he does play well you risk alienating him with that strategy. Players don't like the tag. 

50 minutes ago, OJ Tom said:

 

I would be shocked if they tagged him. He's not worth that.

This draft is loaded with DLine talent.

This team has far too many holes to create another one and waste draft picks on it. 

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8 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said:

I won't embrace mediocrity with this team any longer, He is a below average pass rusher that can be upgraded, 10 sacks in 3 seasons is nowhere near good enough imo.

 

 

Can he be upgraded - yes, but you need depth on your team.

 

Would I pay him 10-15 million a season - nope, but there is no reason to get rid of him.

 

He is good enough to have a long term role and be an important part of this team for many years.

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I feel like he’s gotten the message and has played himself into what should be a solid part of this D. Thanks Rexy, can’t say that about much of your reign in Buffalo, but just maybe you were on to something here with Shaq after all...

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I'm no cap expert but it looks like he'll make $1.8m salary next year with a cap hit of $3.2m. If we exercise the 5th yr and assume its $10m, then we would get him for two years at around $12m, or $6m/yr. Beyond that, no dead cap money at all. 

That seems reasonable unless you can work out a 4 or 5yr "role player" type contract, like others stated above. 

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I'd decline the option, he would make the average of the 3rd-25th highest paid players at his position for this year.  Not 100% sure by I think that's somewhere between 10 and 11 million for a guy who had 4 sacks this year.  You can get his production from a rookie at far less money.

 

Happy he worked harder this year but it may be too little too late for him.

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12 hours ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

 

Can he be upgraded - yes, but you need depth on your team.

 

Would I pay him 10-15 million a season - nope, but there is no reason to get rid of him.

 

He is good enough to have a long term role and be an important part of this team for many years.

10 sacks in 3seasons with almost a full season injured is good enough? Man fans really do embrace the suck here. We were ranked 19th against the run, isn't he and Louteleilei supposed to be these superb run stuffers?

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On 12/31/2018 at 3:39 PM, YoloinOhio said:

 

I might be the only one who was confused by Sal's tweet, but to clarify:

1. Shaq is under contract for the 2019 season (unless we trade or release him - unlikely)

2. 5th year option would be for the 2020 season.  Even if Buffalo does not pick up the option, we'd still have the ability to sign as a free agent prior to the 2020 season

 

At this point, I don't think Shaq has done enough to lock him up for 2020.  Shaq seems like a great teammate and showed signs of improving this year, but his lack of consistent pass rush and slow burst off the ball is still a concern for me.  

 

This is a very good defensive end draft...if Beane stays true to his word (bpa), if expect that we find a DE in round 1 or 2

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You pick up the 5th year option. Easy decision. He was the second best player on DL most of the year. His body finally looks close to what he did in college. It appears he will never be a dominant pass rusher - that skill seems to come early for players. But with Hughes and an OLB that can rush the passer in the draft they will be ok. If he plays well next year then you can extend his contract after the 2019 season. Picking up the option does not preclude making a long term deal.

 

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