DCbillsfan Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 A bunch of head coach firings - Browns, Packers, Bengals, Fish, Jets, Broncos, and Bucs. Maybe the Cardinals Frazier and Daboll in all likelihood will get some interviews for HC jobs. McDermott needs to have some guys in mind as replacements. Plus there has to be a special teams coach out there to replace Crossman, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I really don't think daboll will get a head coaching job. I don't think he's quite at that level yet 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I'm sure he hasn't thought of that... Honestly, if any coach from our team gets a HC gig, I'll be super surprised. How can you justify Daboll getting a job when we had one of the worst offenses in the league? Frasier already had his shot and failed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 In the extremely unlikely event that Dabol gets hired somewhere, I would immediately go after Todd Monken or Freddie Kitchens. There should also be an o-line coach out there somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Frazier will get interviews. Rooney rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 He needs to be ready to find a better OL coach and drop the one we have. Look to Steve Wilks for D Coordinator if Frazier gets a gig. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, DCbillsfan said: A bunch of head coach firings - Browns, Packers, Bengals, Fish, Jets, Broncos, and Bucs. Maybe the Cardinals Frazier and Daboll in all likelihood will get some interviews for HC jobs. McDermott needs to have some guys in mind as replacements. Plus there has to be a special teams coach out there to replace Crossman, right? I'm confident that McD is more prepared than you are giving him credit for. 3 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Frazier will get interviews. Rooney rule. Pretty shallow perspective right here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, Steptide said: I really don't think daboll will get a head coaching job. I don't think he's quite at that level yet Owners tend to follow trends so it wouldn't surprise me if someone hired Daboll and a DC vet/former HC as DC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 10 minutes ago, Steptide said: I really don't think daboll will get a head coaching job. I don't think he's quite at that level yet I don't think so either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 9 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: I'm confident that McD is more prepared than you are giving him credit for. Pretty shallow perspective right here But it's reality. Right now there's two African-American HCs left if I'm counting correctly and it's a priority for the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 11 minutes ago, MJS said: I'm sure he hasn't thought of that... Honestly, if any coach from our team gets a HC gig, I'll be super surprised. How can you justify Daboll getting a job when we had one of the worst offenses in the league? Frasier already had his shot and failed. I don't mean to pick on you personally, because a ton of fans make the same claims, but these takes are the absolute worst. Coach is forced to coordinate talentless group. The talentless group does not perform well. Therefore, coach must suck. It's just so unbearably awful. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 23 minutes ago, Steptide said: I really don't think daboll will get a head coaching job. I don't think he's quite at that level yet Good. I think he is capable, but he hasn't been able to show it because of our roster situation. Actually works out well for us. There is nothing worse for a young QB than constant coach/coordinator turnover. Just ask Blaine Gabbert. Saw a stat last night in the IND/TEN game that blew me away. In 8 years in the NFL, he's had NINE different head coaches and eight OC's. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 23 minutes ago, MJS said: Frasier already had his shot and failed. Yeah, I'm not sure why anyone would want Frazier as a HC, but I hope someone takes him off our hands. IMO, he did a mediocre job at best with the DLine, which ended up putting a lot more pressure on the DBs...who did a great job, especially with not enough help from the DLine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 minute ago, CLTbills said: Good. I think he is capable, but he hasn't been able to show it because of our roster situation. Actually works out well for us. There is nothing worse for a young QB than constant coach/coordinator turnover. Just ask Blaine Gabbert. Saw a stat last night in the IND/TEN game that blew me away. In 8 years in the NFL, he's had NINE different head coaches and eight OC's. Agree. I think the continuity for Allen would be incredibly beneficial at this point in his career. Also, I like Daboll and I am interested to see what he does with an upgraded roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 33 minutes ago, DCbillsfan said: A bunch of head coach firings - Browns, Packers, Bengals, Fish, Jets, Broncos, and Bucs. Maybe the Cardinals Remember, Gregggggggggg is first consideration for all of those spots, no matter what is reported. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 34 minutes ago, DCbillsfan said: A bunch of head coach firings - Browns, Packers, Bengals, Fish, Jets, Broncos, and Bucs. Maybe the Cardinals Frazier and Daboll in all likelihood will get some interviews for HC jobs. McDermott needs to have some guys in mind as replacements. Plus there has to be a special teams coach out there to replace Crossman, right? I am not to concerned - I think these guys are a prepared for most scenarios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 If he is up to the task, I would love to see what Chan Gailey could do with Josh Allen. He made Fitz into the 65 mm dollar man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, CLTbills said: Good. I think he is capable, but he hasn't been able to show it because of our roster situation. Actually works out well for us. There is nothing worse for a young QB than constant coach/coordinator turnover. Just ask Blaine Gabbert. Saw a stat last night in the IND/TEN game that blew me away. In 8 years in the NFL, he's had NINE different head coaches and eight OC's. Yes, yes, yes. The Gabbert stat was mind-blowing. The single most important thing for the Bills over the next 8 months is to retain Daboll. Allen and the rest of the offense needs continuity more than anything else at this time. There is no single player in the draft or free agency that means more to the Bills' 2019 offense than Brian Daboll. And I'm not saying Daboll is a star. I'm just saying the Bills' offense desperately needs stability. Let's see them build on Allen, Jones, Foster, Dawkins, Teller and a couple of other returnees. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Shaw66 said: Yes, yes, yes. The Gabbert stat was mind-blowing. The single most important thing for the Bills over the next 8 months is to retain Daboll. Allen and the rest of the offense needs continuity more than anything else at this time. There is no single player in the draft or free agency that means more to the Bills' 2019 offense than Brian Daboll. And I'm not saying Daboll is a star. I'm just saying the Bills' offense desperately needs stability. Let's see them build on Allen, Jones, Foster, Dawkins, Teller and a couple of other returnees. I totally agree. And Daboll seems to be a fit for this offense the way he moves guys around. Zay was wide open for the TD because the WR routes confused a decent Miami secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, SDS said: I don't mean to pick on you personally, because a ton of fans make the same claims, but these takes are the absolute worst. Coach is forced to coordinate talentless group. The talentless group does not perform well. Therefore, coach must suck. It's just so unbearably awful. IMO I wouldn't say it has to do anything with the coach sucking as the hand he had was obviously awful. But you think you would want to see success from someone before giving him the keys to the franchise. Once again, Not saying it was Daboll's fault that the offence sucked this year. But just saying hiring a coach with a proven track record would be an important asset IMO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSbSoon Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Daboll becoming a hc right now would be the worst possible scenario for allen. They both grew as the year went on, and the last thing any young qb needs is a new system. It almost always seems to end badly. The jets are in that position now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philo Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: I totally agree. And Daboll seems to be a fit for this offense the way he moves guys around. Zay was wide open for the TD because the WR routes confused a decent Miami secondary. Not to take anything away from Zay's route or Daboll's play calling, but I believe at that point Miami was down to maybe 1 starter in the secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Part of the GM and HC job is to have a list of coaches available to hire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 51 minutes ago, DCbillsfan said: A bunch of head coach firings - Browns, Packers, Bengals, Fish, Jets, Broncos, and Bucs. Maybe the Cardinals Frazier and Daboll in all likelihood will get some interviews for HC jobs. McDermott needs to have some guys in mind as replacements. Plus there has to be a special teams coach out there to replace Crossman, right? My hope is that we refuse to let teams interview Daboll. Not too many Earnhardt/Perkins OCs out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, SDS said: I don't mean to pick on you personally, because a ton of fans make the same claims, but these takes are the absolute worst. Coach is forced to coordinate talentless group. The talentless group does not perform well. Therefore, coach must suck. It's just so unbearably awful. I never claimed Daboll sucks. In fact, I think he is probably pretty decent. I said there is little to no chance of him getting a HC job. I fully understand that the offense has virtually no talent. I've been saying that all year and have defended Daboll on multiple occasions. But I don't see how any team could hire him as a head coach. He led an offense that was terrible, regardless of where the blame is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Philo Beddoe said: Not to take anything away from Zay's route or Daboll's play calling, but I believe at that point Miami was down to maybe 1 starter in the secondary. The Bills haven't had a starting WR all season so I guess it was an even matchup 4 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 hours ago, DCbillsfan said: A bunch of head coach firings - Browns, Packers, Bengals, Fish, Jets, Broncos, and Bucs. Maybe the Cardinals Frazier and Daboll in all likelihood will get some interviews for HC jobs. McDermott needs to have some guys in mind as replacements. Plus there has to be a special teams coach out there to replace Crossman, right? I can see Frazier getting another shot, we had the #2 total defense in the league this year but it would be a very hard sell to a fanbase and media the 30th ranked offense in the league's OC Brian Daboll as your new HC, I just don't see it happening at least not this year imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebrastripes Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Pretty shallow perspective right here You're living under a rock of you think this doesn't happen every year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Long time ST Coordinator Keith Armstrong is being let go today as part of a giant overhaul by Falcons. Could be worth a look 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 hours ago, oldmanfan said: Frazier will get interviews. Rooney rule. I'm sure the fact that he's been a head coach before has nothing to do with it, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 hours ago, RyanC883 said: I totally agree. And Daboll seems to be a fit for this offense the way he moves guys around. Zay was wide open for the TD because the WR routes confused a decent Miami secondary. While it was a nice play there were no starters in the defensive backfield save for Mikah Fitzpatrick at that point. Probably led to break down in coverage scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 hours ago, SDS said: I don't mean to pick on you personally, because a ton of fans make the same claims, but these takes are the absolute worst. Coach is forced to coordinate talentless group. The talentless group does not perform well. Therefore, coach must suck. It's just so unbearably awful. It's the same thing with players. Pocket-passer QB is forced to play behind sieve OL therefore QB must suck (see: Cousins/Vikes). As far as Daboll goes though, I've been talking about this in the forum and in PMs with a couple of guys through the season. As the season has gone on, Daboll's schemes and playcalling has become more effective overall, I think. Perhaps he's been learning what does and does not work against real NFL D's with our guys. Perhaps that is something he was not able to discern during pre-season, as the playbook was being taught and the team assembled. And yet, there are still times (less than at the beginning of the season, but too many) where his play calling seems out of sync with the situation - and that is more or less independent of the group of players he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 hours ago, Steptide said: I really don't think daboll will get a head coaching job. I don't think he's quite at that level yet I agree with this. IT's not like we were an offense juggernaut at 6-10. And honestly I don't think losing Frazier would be earth shattering, considering that McD took over play calling after getting trounced the first 6 quarters of the year. That being said I don't think Frazier will go anywhere either. The league knows Frazier wasn't the sole reason our defense was tops in the league. I think this year we'll be safe. If we improve our talent and our offense explodes in 2019, then definitely Daboll will be on many team's radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 hours ago, NewEraBills said: He needs to be ready to find a better OL coach and drop the one we have. Look to Steve Wilks for D Coordinator if Frazier gets a gig. Frazier just seems a bit too conservative for my tastes as DC. It took McDermott briefly taking over defensive calls to get our D playing decently. Not a fan of Frazier. I don't see him getting another HC job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Steptide said: I really don't think daboll will get a head coaching job. I don't think he's quite at that level yet Why not? Was it his fault he had ***** on his offensive line and at WR and TE? What more could Daboll have done to prove he is ready to be a HC? Daboll very well may be hired. He has a good resume and the bloodlines are there. Edited December 31, 2018 by Binghamton Beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiskibreth Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) I'm pretty sure McDermott has enough sense to be seeing around the corner and formulating plan-B in case one of his gets an opportunity. He'd also be foolish to overlook this opportunity to make some upgrades on his own staff from all these assistants now on the market. Edited December 31, 2018 by wiskibreth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 2 hours ago, SDS said: I don't mean to pick on you personally, because a ton of fans make the same claims, but these takes are the absolute worst. Coach is forced to coordinate talentless group. The talentless group does not perform well. Therefore, coach must suck. It's just so unbearably awful. Daboll hasn't ever coached a good offense. Even for as stacked as it was, Alabama struggled for a big part of his time. Frazier didn't do well in his time in Minnesota and it looks worse with their current success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 hours ago, DCbillsfan said: A bunch of head coach firings - Browns, Packers, Bengals, Fish, Jets, Broncos, and Bucs. Maybe the Cardinals Frazier and Daboll in all likelihood will get some interviews for HC jobs. McDermott needs to have some guys in mind as replacements. Plus there has to be a special teams coach out there to replace Crossman, right? If Frazier departs, Steve Wilks is the no brainer replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 3 hours ago, oldmanfan said: Frazier will get interviews. Rooney rule. Nice comment. Fitting for your name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, WhoTom said: I'm sure the fact that he's been a head coach before has nothing to do with it, right? That as well. He should get interviews because of his experience. But, unfortunately I think, he will be interviewed only because of the Rooney rule by some teams and not because of his talent. Three minority coaches were fired today. I think that's sad. I agree there should be more representation of minorities in coaching and front office spots. But the Rooney rule to me isn't the best way to accomplish that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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