QB Bills Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 And he needs to be moved before other teams realize this. I know he's playing hurt, but the signs were there last year. He's clearly lost a step. Ivory and Murphy have been better this season. Ship him out and try to get anything for him while unloading that contract. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I don’t agree with that. He needs touches, he has always been a back to take negative runs and dance in the backfield. He’s only effective if he’s touching the ball 20+ times and gets a shot to break a few runs. The rest of the plays he generally has me yelling at the tv “just run straight and get the two yards” 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Well if they use him would be nice. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 He has no trade value imo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 But what if other teams read your thread and know that he's done? No one will want to trade for him and it's all your fault. 4 19 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, QB Bills said: And he needs to be moved before other teams realize this. I know he's playing hurt, but the signs were there last year. He's clearly lost a step. Ivory and Murphy have been better this season. Ship him out and try to get anything for him while unloading that contract. If he has lost a step, you really don't think other teams would realize that before you did? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I think McCoy is still our best player. The week that Daboll realizes that we'll have a free win. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 How unusual, I knee jerk thread on TSW. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 You would think our OC would want to develop a strong running game with a team with a rookie QB and horrible receivers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 This will be his last season with the Bill's. We'll keep Murphy and Ivory and draft another RB. Everything will accelerate if he found even partially responsible for the jewelry beat down. Other players joining Shady off this roster next year will include KB, Holmes, Taiwan, Alexander, Kyle, Peterman, Miller, Lawson, Lee and Clay to name just a few. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenboy81 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, fridge said: I think McCoy is still our best player. The week that Daboll realizes that we'll have a free win. Totally agree.I dont understand with the lack of weapons why the offense doesn't run through McCoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Phew...reading the title of the post, I thought Shady retired, only after the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) He has 29 touches this season. That is hogwash. He may not be a great player anymore, but he's still a good one. Give him the ball and he'll make plays. Edited October 1, 2018 by TheElectricCompany 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 15 minutes ago, BillsFan692 said: He has no trade value imo Unfortunately I think you are right. If he did have trade value, I would strongly support trading him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 10 minutes ago, billsfan714 said: You would think our OC would want to develop a strong running game with a team with a rookie QB and horrible receivers. Need to do that. Absolute must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: Phew...reading the title of the post, I thought Shady retired, only after the game. I guess that would have been better than doing it at halftime. 14 minutes ago, Green Lightning said: How unusual, I knee jerk thread on TSW. And a grammatical error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I don't see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 He is the only good player we have on offense. It’s a shame that our OC doesn’t know that. Maybe he would get the ball every once in a while. If I was the Bills OC, Shady would have an OJ level workload in this offense. I would get Shady 30+ touches a game, no that’s not hyperbole and yes I realize how much that is and how rare that is in today’s game. You are not saving this guy for the future. Shady is all we have. Use him with no fear. 20-25 carries minimum and 5-10 catches a game. It’s the only chance we will ever have to beat anyone. Our WRs do not belong in the NFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) i think he's lost a bit of speed and he was never fast speed wise to begin with. plus he cant break tackles. combine this with a line that does not open up holes or block near as well and he doesnt look as good as in the past. im really liking Ivory for now....with this line you need his power to break through tackles. Edited October 1, 2018 by Comebackkid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Anyone else find it insane that we have a rookie QB, with minimal WR "help," playing in his third ever start facing a lot of pressure... and we call 10 total RB runs. 5 for Ivory and 5 for McCoy - that makes no sense to me. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadonkadonk Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 McCoy 4.8 YPC Ivory 2.8 YPC Yes Ivory might get an extra yard when there is no hole. But Shady gets 11 when there is a crack. You picked the wrong game and the wrong argument regarding Shady. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 He is still of more value to the team this year then the scraps they would get by trading him.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasMac Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: This will be his last season with the Bill's. We'll keep Murphy and Ivory and draft another RB. Everything will accelerate if he found even partially responsible for the jewelry beat down. Other players joining Shady off this roster next year will include KB, Holmes, Taiwan, Alexander, Kyle, Peterman, Miller, Lawson, Lee and Clay to name just a few. This is spot on. Guys, we are going to be pretty bad this year. And probably just as bad next year. I don't think we will see significant improvement until the following year. There is just a serious lack of talent on the team right now. Any talent we had was being overpaid and traded for draft capital. I'm still along for the ride but I do wish we had an offensive guy at the helm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Is he regular, washed up veteran bad? Or worse than regular, washed up veteran bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 He had 5 carries today. If he were any good he should of had at minimum 500 yards. This clearly shows that he is in fact done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 He's lost half a step, but he's still a very good player. There's no trade value there. He's worth more to this team than a 4th or 5th rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Our Oline can't block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) Going into this season I was worried they were going to overwork him! I wanna see McCoy and Ivory in a 2 back set. McCoy is a skilled receiver out of the backfield so it's not that limiting. They need a speedster on the outside to get the Safeties a little more concerned about a deep pass, and a DB a few steps further from the line. Just sign the fastest guy off the street. Bring in a track star. I know those guys are frustrating, and on a team with decent receivers they become completely useless, but for this team it could open things up a little. How much more useless can a guy be than Robert Foster? Edited October 1, 2018 by OJ Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, PolishPrince said: Anyone else find it insane that we have a rookie QB, with minimal WR "help," playing in his third ever start facing a lot of pressure... and we call 10 total RB runs. 5 for Ivory and 5 for McCoy - that makes no sense to me. This is the only team in the history of the NFL that abandons the run before the national anthem. WTF? I wonder if Shady still thinks Dabol is a "genius"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 What can you expect to get for an aging running back with a big contract? I'll answer that: nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 6 hours ago, PolishPrince said: Anyone else find it insane that we have a rookie QB, with minimal WR "help," playing in his third ever start facing a lot of pressure... and we call 10 total RB runs. 5 for Ivory and 5 for McCoy - that makes no sense to me. When they didn't run the ball in the preseason I thought it was so that they could see what they had at QB. But now it looks like it's just their offense. As you say, not ideal given their personnel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 4 hours ago, Azucho98 said: This is the only team in the history of the NFL that abandons the run before the national anthem. WTF? I wonder if Shady still thinks Dabol is a "genius"? I was wondering the same thing. It doesn't take a genius to figure out to feature the run when you have a rookie QB. That doesn't mean having your QB run the ball though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 He can't carry the whole team. I bet the Pats would love to take him off our hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I was saying all offseason we should look to trade him while he was still a valued commodity considering we were in full rebuild mold and a 30 year old running back doesn't fit into our future plans. Hey Beane, read this damn board. You might learn something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 7 hours ago, DallasMac said: This is spot on. Guys, we are going to be pretty bad this year. And probably just as bad next year. I don't think we will see significant improvement until the following year. There is just a serious lack of talent on the team right now. Any talent we had was being overpaid and traded for draft capital. I'm still along for the ride but I do wish we had an offensive guy at the helm. great...so no winning for a few more years...this is fun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeby Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 8 hours ago, QB Bills said: And he needs to be moved before other teams realize this. I know he's playing hurt, but the signs were there last year. He's clearly lost a step. Ivory and Murphy have been better this season. Ship him out and try to get anything for him while unloading that contract. Last year he carried our offense to end the streak. When he was pounding the turf in pain in game 16 and then carted off the field we knew it was our offense on that golf cart. He's not young and not in his prime but c'mon already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 8 hours ago, QB Bills said: And he needs to be moved before other teams realize this. I know he's playing hurt, but the signs were there last year. He's clearly lost a step. Ivory and Murphy have been better this season. Ship him out and try to get anything for him while unloading that contract. Change the title of your post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 8 hours ago, BillsFan692 said: He has no trade value imo I agree with the OP that he is just about shot. I also agree he has very little trade value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believer Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Beane should have traded McCoy in the off-season while he still had value... Big mistake... McCoy has no trade value now beyond a 5th round draft choice... Rookie GM mistake... in my opinion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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