Steelers @ Bills. Monday, January 15th at 4:30pm.

[That's No Moon]

2 hours ago, Virgil said:

I’m nervous that home field advantage won’t be as strong as we hope.  
 

There are a ton of tickets available on Ticketmaster.  Steelers fans will ***** them right up. 

They don't have the faith or they'd be gone already.

[Since1981]

9 minutes ago, akcash said:

You guys think Pittsburgh drives here on a bus or flys? 

Fly, always. Think of the logistics and robust process. They load up all the flight/road cases in the same manner, same staging and go. 

[Success]

26 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/paul-zeise/2024/01/08/josh-allen-buffalo-bills-pittsburgh-steelers-nfl-wild-card-weekend/stories/202401080078
 

they think getting the Bills was the much easier matchup. I guess we will see.

 

That's a pretty tough article.  I think that writer is wrong.  But I'm biased.

 

[section122]

On 1/8/2024 at 1:05 PM, DrDawkinstein said:

 

 

side question: has any team ever made a deep playoff run with half a coaching staff? or even just an interim coordinator for that matter?

 

 

 

I see nobody answered your question but 1 example sticks out to me.  

 

The Ravens fired Cam Cameron in december and hired jim caldwell to be their oc the year they won the super bowl.

[BillnutinHouston]

8 hours ago, buffblue said:

The Steelers yahoo fans seem downright cocky about this game. Will be great to send them packing 

 

Was in Pitt a few days this week for work.  And previously lived there full time.  Yes, they are cocky, entitled, and believe every sports season will result in a ring or a cup.

 

 

[KingBoots8]

JJ got jokes lol

[Richard Noggin]

37 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/paul-zeise/2024/01/08/josh-allen-buffalo-bills-pittsburgh-steelers-nfl-wild-card-weekend/stories/202401080078
 

they think getting the Bills was the much easier matchup. I guess we will see.

 

8 minutes ago, Success said:

 

That's a pretty tough article.  I think that writer is wrong.  But I'm biased.

 

 

That article is brutal. While Allen can be coerced into turning the ball over, so can the heralded Mahomes, and the Bills are widely accepted to be an objectively better (and definitely more dangerous/explosive) team/offense so far in 2023/24. The turnovers are the entire argument here, and it's objectively thin and subjectively selective.

 

"I don't care...that the (Chiefs) running back room is full of a bunch of guys you never heard of." - WTF? Pacheco and Edwards-Helaire are pretty well-known. Weird. 

 

He leads off with repeated suggestions that fearing the Bills more than the Chiefs correlates to **gasp** using THC (or sniffing glue). Pretty out of touch, although Pittsburgh fans in general are pretty conservative. 

 

It's all Mahomes worship, mostly, and while the author couches some of his criticisms towards Allen, he does offer this nugget: "It is probably too strong to say [Allen] is a prototypical “million-dollar talent, ten-cent head” player, but that isn’t too far off."

 

 

[buffblue]

27 minutes ago, BillnutinHouston said:

 

Was in Pitt a few days this week for work.  And previously lived there full time.  Yes, they are cocky, entitled, and believe every sports season will result in a ring or a cup.

 

 

That's been my experience with most people from Pittsburgh, and it's not even limited to their sports teams. Very parochial bunch

[Big Turk]

32 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

 

That article is brutal. While Allen can be coerced into turning the ball over, so can the heralded Mahomes, and the Bills are widely accepted to be an objectively better (and definitely more dangerous/explosive) team/offense so far in 2023/24. The turnovers are the entire argument here, and it's objectively thin and subjectively selective.

 

"I don't care...that the (Chiefs) running back room is full of a bunch of guys you never heard of." - WTF? Pacheco and Edwards-Helaire are pretty well-known. Weird. 

 

He leads off with repeated suggestions that fearing the Bills more than the Chiefs correlates to **gasp** using THC (or sniffing glue). Pretty out of touch, although Pittsburgh fans in general are pretty conservative. 

 

It's all Mahomes worship, mostly, and while the author couches some of his criticisms towards Allen, he does offer this nugget: "It is probably too strong to say [Allen] is a prototypical “million-dollar talent, ten-cent head” player, but that isn’t too far off."

 

 

 

I mean if Pittsburgh punts 7 times in the game and they get Allen to throw an INT or 2 but we punt once, who really won the "turnover battle"?

 

I'd argue we did and that this old school way of thinking about turnovers is very incomplete and without better context, virtually meaningless.

[eball]

7 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

this old school way of thinking about turnovers is very incomplete and without better context, virtually meaningless

 

Fantastic comment.  Well said.

 

[Rubes]

FWIW, Watt is officially OUT for Sunday.

 

[Scott7975]

uh oh

[ExiledInIllinois]

16 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

I mean if Pittsburgh punts 7 times in the game and they get Allen to throw an INT or 2 but we punt once, who really won the "turnover battle"?

 

I'd argue we did and that this old school way of thinking about turnovers is very incomplete and without better context, virtually meaningless.

Josh's interception on 4th down vs. the Dolphins netted +15 yards than turnover on downs. 

[Since1981]

The concept of punting vs long INT, and 4th down has dramatically changed in just a couple years. I’m not sure the entire NFL fan base and chatter heads has caught up. 
 

josh 4th down:

Snow plow 1 yd

run for 4 yds

INT 50 yd “punt”

 

Some QBs and times past would never do this. They’d just PUNT. Our Unicorn. Thankfully coach understands and isn’t full of Malarky-punt

Edited January 10 by Since1981

[Buffalo Super Fan]

The Buffalo Bills should win this game at home over the Pittsburgh Steelers in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo 

[PromoTheRobot]

They probably have little choice when to play this game but, wow, bad timing.

 

 

 

[MiltonWaddams]

13 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

They probably have little choice when to play this game but, wow, bad timing.

 

 

 

The game will be well attended by players moms and little sisters

[RiotAct]

14 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

They probably have little choice when to play this game but, wow, bad timing.

 

 

 

lulz.

[Billsatlastin2018]

What I believe.

 

* The Bills should win this one handily,at home v.s. a so so Squealer team.

However, the line is -10 and moving up. I am concerned less about the snow, than the wind. There could be a goofy Turnover resulting in a TD. It will be low scoring. Possible, that the final score could be between 7 & 10.

 

* The Bills will finally slay all their imaginary dragons by beating the not so good as before Chiefs by 10. Line will be Bills -3.5.

 

* The Bills will beat the Cleveland Browns at home by 6in the AFCCG. This will be a back and forth thriller, requiring some Unicorn runs and wild TD Passes.

 

* The Bills will win their first Lombardi, beating the 49ers by a FG, a high scoring shootout. 

[Aimee75]

5 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

What I believe.

 

* The Bills should win this one handily,at home v.s. a so so Squealer team.

However, the line is -10 and moving up. I am concerned less about the snow, than the wind. There could be a goofy Turnover resulting in a TD. It will be low scoring. Possible, that the final score could be between 7 & 10.

 

* The Bills will finally slay all their imaginary dragons by beating the not so good as before Chiefs by 10. Line will be Bills -3.5.

 

* The Bills will beat the Cleveland Browns at home by 6in the AFCCG. This will be a back and forth thriller, requiring some Unicorn runs and wild TD Passes.

 

* The Bills will win their first Lombardi, beating the 49ers by a FG, a high scoring shootout. 

I am kind of dumb with this stuff? When you say the line is moving up, does that mean The Bills are being favored by even more points, or less? Also, I agree about the wind. The wind is the biggest hassle of all. I am still scarred by the Bengals game last year. I felt like the sloppy weather didn't help, but who knows, maybe they roll over us in better conditions as well.

[Coffeesforclosers]

8 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

What I believe.

 

* The Bills should win this one handily,at home v.s. a so so Squealer team.

However, the line is -10 and moving up. I am concerned less about the snow, than the wind. There could be a goofy Turnover resulting in a TD. It will be low scoring. Possible, that the final score could be between 7 & 10.

 

* The Bills will finally slay all their imaginary dragons by beating the not so good as before Chiefs by 10. Line will be Bills -3.5.

 

* The Bills will beat the Cleveland Browns at home by 6in the AFCCG. This will be a back and forth thriller, requiring some Unicorn runs and wild TD Passes.

 

* The Bills will win their first Lombardi, beating the 49ers by a FG, a high scoring shootout. 

 

I dig all of this with one exception.

 

It'd be swell to beat Dallas in the Superbowl. 

[Buffalo716]

14 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said:

The game will be well attended by players moms and little sisters

Most of canisius's roster does not even originate from Western New York

 

They don't have a lot of moms and little sisters in the stands... Just 1500 Western New Yorkers paying over the moon for canisius tuition

[Bferra13]

1 hour ago, KingBoots8 said:

JJ got jokes lol

 

They remind me of the O'Doyle family from Billy Madison. Mainly because I can't stand any of them. 

Edited January 10 by Bferra13

[Billsatlastin2018]

19 minutes ago, Aimee75 said:

I am kind of dumb with this stuff? When you say the line is moving up, does that mean The Bills are being favored by even more points, or less?

It means that people believe the Bills will win by even more and therefore it is going up! Sometimes,this gives a false reading of the relative superiority of one team more than the other.

 

The Bills have become a very hot gambling commodity in addition to the fact that there is keen interest in everything they touch. Ticket prices are a significant example this year. They have become outrageously and exorbitantly priced due to their popularity. 
 

Wind is a terrible leveller of superior talent- however. That needs watching before I make my final wager on this game.

 

Have already bet the Bills to win the SB. 

[Aimee75]

5 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

It means that people believe the Bills will win by even more and therefore it is going up! Sometimes,this gives a false reading of the relative superiority of one team more than the other.

 

The Bills have become a very hot gambling commodity in addition to the fact that there is keen interest in everything they touch. Ticket prices are a significant example this year. They have become outrageously and exorbitantly priced due to their popularity. 
 

Wind is a terrible leveller of superior talent- however. That needs watching before I make my final wager on this game.

 

Have already bet the Bills to win the SB. 

Thanks for the explanation, it is what I assumed it was, but because the weather is going to be messy I was surprised it favored us even more. I hope it's right, and that we can get our run game going. 

[PromoTheRobot]

45 minutes ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

What I believe.

 

* The Bills should win this one handily,at home v.s. a so so Squealer team.

However, the line is -10 and moving up. I am concerned less about the snow, than the wind. There could be a goofy Turnover resulting in a TD. It will be low scoring. Possible, that the final score could be between 7 & 10.

 

* The Bills will finally slay all their imaginary dragons by beating the not so good as before Chiefs by 10. Line will be Bills -3.5.

 

* The Bills will beat the Cleveland Browns at home by 6in the AFCCG. This will be a back and forth thriller, requiring some Unicorn runs and wild TD Passes.

 

* The Bills will win their first Lombardi, beating the 49ers by a FG, a high scoring shootout. 

 

I think it could go this way. Steelers, then Chiefs, while the Browns D stops the Ravens. Browns at Bills in an epic AFCC in Buffalo.

[Special K]

7 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

I think it could go this way. Steelers, then Chiefs, while the Browns D stops the Ravens. Browns at Bills in an epic AFCC in Buffalo.

 

Throw in a Bills/Lions Super Bowl.......the game to see which franchise gets to ditch the "lovable losers" moniker!!

 

On a side note, I hope everyone in the path of this crazy winter storm makes it through OK......had to dodge a few tornadoes down here in Florida.......stay safe to all Bills fans in its path!

 

Go Bills!!

Edited January 10 by Special K

[ExiledInIllinois]

2 hours ago, Since1981 said:

The concept of punting vs long INT, and 4th down has dramatically changed in just a couple years. I’m not sure the entire NFL fan base and chatter heads has caught up. 
 

josh 4th down:

Snow plow 1 yd

run for 4 yds

INT 50 yd “punt”

 

Some QBs and times past would never do this. They’d just PUNT. Our Unicorn. Thankfully coach understands and isn’t full of Malarky-punt

Thnx.

 

Just like the defer!

 

Even before the rule... The concept of the extra possession "double dip" was lost on almost everyone. 

[ExWNYer]

2 hours ago, Aimee75 said:

I am kind of dumb with this stuff? When you say the line is moving up, does that mean The Bills are being favored by even more points, or less?

 

1 hour ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

It means that people believe the Bills will win by even more and therefore it is going up! Sometimes,this gives a false reading of the relative superiority of one team more than the other.

 

It means that most of the early money is coming in on the Bills at the original posted line. If Vegas is increasing the line, they are attempting to even out the money by getting more of it to come in on Pittsburgh. It has everything to do with the money and nothing to do with "people believing the Bills will win by even more."

[AlfaBill]

38 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Thnx.

 

Just like the defer!

 

Even before the rule... The concept of the extra possession "double dip" was lost on almost everyone. 

What about taking the wind in overtime?

[newcam2012]

2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

I think it could go this way. Steelers, then Chiefs, while the Browns D stops the Ravens. Browns at Bills in an epic AFCC in Buffalo.

Let's beat Pitt first. 

[Unforgiven]

6 hours ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:

It means that people believe the Bills will win by even more and therefore it is going up! Sometimes,this gives a false reading of the relative superiority of one team more than the other.

 

The Bills have become a very hot gambling commodity in addition to the fact that there is keen interest in everything they touch. Ticket prices are a significant example this year. They have become outrageously and exorbitantly priced due to their popularity. 
 

Wind is a terrible leveller of superior talent- however. That needs watching before I make my final wager on this game.

 

Have already bet the Bills to win the SB. 

All that line is going to do is fire up the steelers.

[Rich Stadium Original]

There is little doubt that the Steelers will try to run the ball, then run even more, and keep running until the Bills can stop them, especially with the weather forecast. Plus it shortens the game and helps to keep the score close

They will probably come out in a two tight end set, and sometimes three.

 I wonder if McDermott will stick to his lighter LB/DB base defense, or if he'll add the extra linebacker to stop the run.

 Rudolph does chuck it occasionally, but I dont think of Pittsburgh as a throwing threat, particularly if it's windy and snowy.

[PaattMaann]

16 hours ago, No_Matter_What said:

Problem with 2nd int was that he could've easily* get the first down himself, or at least that is how I remember it.

 

*I am not saying easily for any other QB, but we are talking Josh "I am bigger and stronger than any of you" Allen

 

He also had his TE wide open right at the start on the play on his first read (staring right at him) and turned it down...

[PBF81]

FWIW, the Steelers are 5-1 when they rush for more than 150 yards.

 

We are 0-3 when we allow more than 150.  

 

It's beyond likely that it comes down to that given the weather.

 

The problem for us is that our defense is not built to stop the run.  We rank 28th in yards-per-attempt allowed.  

 

 

[Gregg]

8 hours ago, Coffeesforclosers said:

 

I dig all of this with one exception.

 

It'd be swell to beat Dallas in the Superbowl. 

 

Payback for 92 and 93. 

[SWATeam]

4 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

FWIW, the Steelers are 5-1 when they rush for more than 150 yards.

 

We are 0-3 when we allow more than 150.  

 

It's beyond likely that it comes down to that given the weather.

 

The problem for us is that our defense is not built to stop the run.  We rank 28th in yards-per-attempt allowed.  

 

 

When we want to stop the run we can.  I'm sure Joseph will be up this week to go along with Jones, Oliver, Groot, and Shaq.

 

I'm sure the plan will be to make Rudolph beat them.

[VaMilBill]

7 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

FWIW, the Steelers are 5-1 when they rush for more than 150 yards.

 

We are 0-3 when we allow more than 150.  

 

It's beyond likely that it comes down to that given the weather.

 

The problem for us is that our defense is not built to stop the run.  We rank 28th in yards-per-attempt allowed.  

 

 

Yep. Our defense is built to play with a lead. 

[Matt_In_NH]

I don't get good vibes about this game regarding the forcast.   Hopefully the weather is good enough to be able to run most of your offense and have good footing.   If it is a wind game or sloppy footing game that is a big advantage for the Steelers.  Right not it looks like it will be windy but not bad enough to make it like that dumb Pats game.   If this reduces to just about the trenches and bounces and mistakes that is a big equalizer.

[Not at the table Karlos]

13 hours ago, Virgil said:

I’m nervous that home field advantage won’t be as strong as we hope.  
 

There are a ton of tickets available on Ticketmaster.  Steelers fans will ***** them right up. 

Everyone’s acting like it can’t happen here. It has happened here a lot. Eagles, Bengals and Steelers fans usually buy a lot of seats. Every Bills home game I’ve been to vs those teams had a lot of their fans.