NewEra Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Nephilim17 said: Really like the catching element (and hard running after the catch) he brings to the table. BTW, I heard that in college Cook was a great receiving back. Is my memory that poor or had Cook not caught that many passes this year? What happened to that? Cook is I great catching back. He just needs Dorsey and Josh to call his number. Almost like Josh avoids throwing him the ball 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Defense Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Nice move! With 668 rushing AND 523 receiving last year, this gives the Bills a much better running back situation. They were too light in that area and if they are to contend this year the running backs, including their receiving, must become an integral part of the offense. But, will Dorsey use him soon? Or wait until the world is screaming that is he not using him? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, LyndonvilleBill said: 2 back sets could be fun. Then split them both wide.😁 Or both out of the backfield 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Nephilim17 said: Really like the catching element (and hard running after the catch) he brings to the table. BTW, I heard that in college Cook was a great receiving back. Is my memory that poor or had Cook not caught that many passes this year? What happened to that? you heard correctly, the situation is Cook and Fournette bring almost opposite body types and styles after the catch. cook is elusive. Fournette is punishing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Solomon Grundy said: Or both out of the backfield Absolutely. D won't know if it's run or pass. I really like the potential. Now I can only hope Dorsey will utilize them accordingly. 🫣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) Fournette has long been one of my least favorite RBs to watch/have to root for as a kinda sorta Bucs fan. Hopefully this is purely a depth signing. He made Tom Brady take a lot more hits than he should have due to his horrendous pass blocking and I believe is ranked among the worst pass blockers in the league every season since he was drafted. Not a good runner either. Edited October 31, 2023 by DCOrange 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, DCOrange said: Fournette has long been one of my least favorite RBs to watch/have to root for as a kinda sorta Bucs fan. Hopefully this is purely a depth signing. He made Tom Brady take a lot more hits than he should have due to his horrendous pass blocking and I believe is ranked among the worst pass blockers in the league every season since he was drafted. Not a good runner either. Edited October 31, 2023 by Warriorspikes51 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishBills Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, DCOrange said: Fournette has long been one of my least favorite RBs to watch/have to root for as a kinda sorta Bucs fan. Hopefully this is purely a depth signing. He made Tom Brady take a lot more hits than he should have due to his horrendous pass blocking and I believe is ranked among the worst pass blockers in the league every season since he was drafted. Not a good runner either. I have no idea if this is true or not - but I find it hard to believe TBrady hand picked a back who was ***** in pass pro. In fact when I heard this signing, underwhelming as I found it, my next thought was based on Brady - I bet he's at least good in pass pro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 3 hours ago, NewEra said: Cook is I great catching back. He just needs Dorsey and Josh to call his number. Almost like Josh avoids throwing him the ball This is true and I agree an issue with Josh & Ken. Cook has been open for dump offs in the flat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ScottishBills said: I have no idea if this is true or not - but I find it hard to believe TBrady hand picked a back who was ***** in pass pro. In fact when I heard this signing, underwhelming as I found it, my next thought was based on Brady - I bet he's at least good in pass pro Unfortunately he is not. I think he’s literally the lowest rated pass blocker in the NFL since he joined the league on PFF and having watched most Bucs games every year, he routinely missed reads and got Brady lit up. He was also low key terrible at short yardage runs and also zero threat for long runs. He does have good hands as a receiver though (but we should be wanting Cook to get those reps). I think Brady, like so many before him, loves the idea of Fournette without realizing what kind of player he actually is (and Tampa admittedly had nothing at RB so they were desperate for any sort of veteran help they could find). Still, if he’s just a third RB or whatever you can do worse. If we had any semblance of a RB screen game, he could be helpful there. Edited October 31, 2023 by DCOrange 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 The main drawback with Fournette versus Damien Harris is that Fournette has never been a special teams player. You get an offensive contributor and nothing more. Teams tend to look for special teams contributions when a guy is not a starter. Cook is the unquestioned starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 As much as I want cook on the field, this move makes things tougher for defenses. Cook has been awful in pass pro at times. Lenny can catch, block, and lower his head for yards. He's a back that has power but can just as easy burn you on a dumpoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 The more I think about this pick up the more I like it I think he'll get some run Especially in pass pro, he's big enough to hold up and they may need it coming up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 While this is interesting in that everyone knows his name I can’t see this as anything more than a replacement for Harris. Let’s hope Fournette stays healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: While this is interesting in that everyone knows his name I can’t see this as anything more than a replacement for Harris. Let’s hope Fournette stays healthy. It is just a replacement for Harris. And they needed that. Can't be an injury away from Ty Johnson getting significant carries. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Our GM making moves that surprise. when will HC/OC do anything close to creative or unexpected?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 So what I’m gathering is Lenny will provide the pass pro that Cook lacks. The down side is Lenny sucks at pass pro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 #5 is cool for a RB, I like it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 I think @DCOrange has PTSD from when Lombardi Lenny ran for about 600 yards against Syracuse when he was with LSU back in his college days. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Be interesting what his role will be. Cook has done a great job and deserves to be the primary back. Fournette can add to passing plays and 3rd downs for sure. Funny thing is I truly thought he’d been in the league a lot longer than 6 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 14 hours ago, ScottishBills said: I have no idea if this is true or not - but I find it hard to believe TBrady hand picked a back who was ***** in pass pro. In fact when I heard this signing, underwhelming as I found it, my next thought was based on Brady - I bet he's at least good in pass pro Maybe Br*dy hand picked him because he was an addict to stuff he was selling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 20 hours ago, NewEra said: Cook is I great catching back. He just needs Dorsey and Josh to call his number. Almost like Josh avoids throwing him the ball He is on pace for 38-39 catches and is averaging an elite 10.7 ypr. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Cook’s receiving numbers gradually tick up over the final nine games. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: He is on pace for 38-39 catches and is averaging an elite 10.7 ypr. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Cook’s receiving numbers gradually tick up over the final nine games. I really like cook I just wish he was better at blitz pick up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 26 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: He is on pace for 38-39 catches and is averaging an elite 10.7 ypr. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Cook’s receiving numbers gradually tick up over the final nine games. Yup. Josh got the ball out in (iirc) 2.27 secs on avg last games. That’s either the fastest of the season or his career. Either way, it seems like Dorsey made a little tweak in the offense with emphasis on getting it out of joshs hands as fast as possible. I’m a little worried that that could have a negative impact on Cook in the passing game. Cook seems to be more of a check down this season…..and Josh just doesn’t seem interested in throwing him the ball, even when he’s wiiide open. here’s to hoping Dorsey (and Josh) find a way to get him involved in the pass game. He, Kincaid and shakir are great options in the short pass game to make the defenses play us honest. Maybe that the long play that we’re developing as the season goes on. Refraining from showing all of our cards early in the season. But that’s probably giving them too much credit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Wgr said Murray has been stuffed like 5 times at the goal line this year and Lenny is a goal line specialist. We need to punch it in 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 59 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I really like cook I just wish he was better at blitz pick up Yup - if you line up in 11 with kincaid (borderline 4WR set)... if they show blitz, you almost have to use cook for blitz pickup. Just now, aristocrat said: Wgr said Murray has been stuffed like 5 times at the goal line this year and Lenny is a goal line specialist. We need to punch it in I like that too - not to say that its been entirely murrays fault. Offensive line has to do a better job making that little crease to fly through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Not sure why you couldn’t use him similarly to Knox who with his suspect hands shouldn’t have been running downfield routes. Knox was good at pass protection and dump offs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Looks to be in solid shape to me. 3 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 32 minutes ago, Gambit said: Looks to be in solid shape to me. So does anyone in the vicinity of Dawkins 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 19 hours ago, CNYfan said: I think @DCOrange has PTSD from when Lombardi Lenny ran for about 600 yards against Syracuse when he was with LSU back in his college days. More PTSD from watching him for the Bucs lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Rejoice! 1 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Call this guy up for Sunday. Let’s get some physicality ready for this monster game. Bengals pushed us around twice…let’s get the 230lb Power RB up 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 I think when it’s all said and done this guy becomes RB1 before the year is out. I really like Cook but if he can’t block, this coach will never trust him. Murray was never good even when he was young. The dude is a complete waste I can’t believe he made the team and really can’t believe he dresses. That’s got to be a clue as to how we feel about Cook 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 46 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Call this guy up for Sunday. Let’s get some physicality ready for this monster game. Bengals pushed us around twice…let’s get the 230lb Power RB up Gotta learn the playbook 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Rejoice! Lol I called this in last thread. They're the same guy in different laundry, theyll be thicc as thieves in no time 🤣🤣 More extreme but their are examples of ceasefire on Xmas in WWI for sure, and pretty sure ww2, where soldiers cross enemy lines, no shooting, sharing food. Sharing smokes with captured pow's! Frequenting the same bars immediately after wars end. Their have been literal class reunions of enemy soldiers 20+ years out. Plenty of examples of this post civil war. Boxing/UFC beat the snot out of each other, talk shiiiii pre fight, then hug after. Gotti/Ward trilogy comes immediately to mind. Their nasty streaks come from comraderie of teammates/fellow soldiers. They'll be more than fine. If ones in a huge scuffle the other will be first off the bench. Man I love sports, and this video and the Diggs/Fournette one makes me laugh so hard 🤣 😂 Edited November 2, 2023 by BillsShredder83 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 I really hope Buffalo "figures" out how to use him and doesn't pull a Hines again this year. Get Him and Sul out there this week for a few snaps at least. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big Turk Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) Fournette has a future in bodybuilding if he wants it after his playing days are over. Elite, elite genetics...look at those legs. Crazy. I have really well developed quads, hamstrings and calves and those put me to shame(not calves, but quads and hams for sure). Edited November 2, 2023 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Fournette has a future in bodybuilding if he wants it after his playing days are over. Elite, elite genetics...look at those legs. Crazy. I have really well developed quads, hamstrings and calves and those put me to shame(not calves, but quads and hams for sure). So that's why they call those hamstrings. More like turkey strings in his case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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