NickelCity Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 minute ago, BillsFanForever19 said: If he's an OLB that plays Special Teams, I'm really not a fan of the pick. 3rd Round has been a head scratcher 2 years in a row. About sums it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Just now, Buffalo03 said: What happened to Ray Lewis sized LBs? Do they not exist anymore? We drafted one, his name was Reggie Ragland. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Just read Joe Marino's scouting report on him and he had him as 6th round value..🤢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: But it makes no sense. He basically just said we drafted a back up linebacker who can play teams. Would be good for the 5th round value, but not 3rd I'm not sold on Bernard. If Williams beats him out at WLB then this is good value. We need more youth on our defense and linebackers who can cover is something McD really values. Teams is the bonus not the main purpose imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Buffalo03 said: What happened to Ray Lewis sized LBs? Do they not exist anymore? NFL is moving away from tackling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Beane said they were going to play him outside. If that’s true, this pick makes zero sense to me. If he’s not meant to be our starter at MLB, with all the other players available, this sucks 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Just now, HappyDays said: Nevermind, Beane said we drafted him to be an OLB and special teamer. I hate it. got to get third round back ups and special teamers at undervalued positions. 4 RB and LB in the third round the last 5 years. Two off the team and two backups 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaadThingsMan Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 I like it. Could be a much needed playmaker around the line of scrimmage. Or a special team demon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Just now, BillsFan130 said: Just read Joe Marino's scouting report on him and he had him as 6th round value..🤢 If you want a real treat go back and read his report on Torrence, has him as a 4th. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Just now, BillsFan130 said: Just read Joe Marino's scouting report on him and he had him as 6th round value..🤢 Maybe joe Marino should be our gm 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Fine. But two 3rd round picks in back to back years on LB’s who won’t play is uninspiring We don't really know that yet. The fact that Bernard didn't play much his rookie year tells us a little bit, but hardly the whole story. This regime is notoriously deliberate w/ any rookie. We'll see if Bernard can work his way in more - and it looks like he has a clear shot to do so this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBillsFan Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Another classic bad 3rd round pick by Beane? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Just now, BillsFan130 said: Just read Joe Marino's scouting report on him and he had him as 6th round value..🤢 What's the difference when first that's his opinion and second it's also the opinion of many that this draft class kinda sucks this year anyways. Idk. Probably not a great take on my part but it's late lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 17 minutes ago, boyst said: Talent scouting is talent scouting. I don't trust our talent scouting at LB. Milano was a sensational pick and Edmunds was good. So you should. Not that I know the first thing about Dorian Williams. Generally not doing well (or doing very well for that matter) at picking any particular position is more about sample size, the early or late nature of the picks you've taken and luck than it is about difficulty picking any one particular position. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 BBB says he’ll be at OLB for now. This is a head-scratcher for me. Not considered a value pick. At OLB, doesn’t particularly fill a need either. I don’t really see the point here to be honest. BBB also said they thought about trading down, but would have had to move back further than they were comfortable with. My response: Learn to be more comfortable. You can always trade back up after trading down. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said: Trying to not be annoyed because the first 2 picks were amazing but man we crapped the bed in the 3rd round. Who gives a rip if LBers were flying off the board. Stick to your BPA model. Is Williams going to really contribute any more than some special teams snaps? Probably not. You still have special players with high upside in Clark Phillips III and Michael Wilson on the board and a lot of O line that can compete for starting spots like Zavala and D Jones…just underwhelmed that Beane got suckered there. He’s been bad in the 3rd round agreed. I really liked the first 2 rounds. This pick leaves my stomach upset 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 21 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: He’s a great pick. He’s the # 2 traditional MLB imo ahead of Henley and behind Campbell Thanks, I’ll take that as a first good sign regarding someone I know nothing about. Playing MLB at 228lbs sounds like a challenge. What is he like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 He sounds like a good player. I like his description more than Bernard’s last year. That being said, I don’t understand what we’re doing at LB… at all. Bernard was drafted to be the Milano backup and/or 4-3 LB. Now we lose Edmunds, and decide to draft another guy we just admitted will back up Milano. Maybe Bernard is the MLB favorite? Has to be the reason, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 22 minutes ago, boyst said: Talent scouting is talent scouting. I don't trust our talent scouting at LB. You didn't like Edmunds and Milano?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Fine. But two 3rd round picks in back to back years on LB’s who won’t play is uninspiring How do you know they wont play? Are you Nostradomus or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Just now, BaaadThingsMan said: I like it. Could be a much needed playmaker around the line of scrimmage. Or a special team demon. We've been chasing the undersized linebacker ST demon, like the dragon, for years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 This pick seriously makes me wonder if Bernard's roster spot is in danger. Like they're just giving up on him now. He was inactive the last game of the season after all... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 What a waste of a pick Bernard was last year. Another Safety playing LB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Thurman#1 said: Milano was a sensational pick and Edmunds was good. So you should. Not that I know the first thing about Dorian Williams. Generally not doing well (or doing very well for that matter) at picking any particular position is more about sample size, the early or late nature of the picks you've taken and luck than it is about difficulty picking any one particular position. Milano was scouted by Whaley and his team, which for all their faults, were great at identifying LBs. Just sayin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: What happened to Ray Lewis sized LBs? Do they not exist anymore? As I was previously told, it's not the 90's anymore...🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: This pick seriously makes me wonder if Bernard's roster spot is in danger. Like they're just giving up on him now. He was inactive the last game of the season after all... He’s way too small to be a MLB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Just now, Straight Hucklebuck said: What a waste of a pick Bernard was last year. Another Safety playing LB. That's a premature judgment, imo. Gotta see what happens this season. Bernard COULD be our starter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 With signing Rapp too…..there was no need for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 👀👀 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, gobills404 said: Here’s what he said on his livestream: ”I don’t like this pick at all” ”This is a real stinker” ”Pour me a glass” I really like Joe and I've had some back and forth with him over the years that was very nice...He's a good dude. He lives in Charlotte and I lived there for 20 years and we've had some cool talks...I told him some fun stories about the good old days at The Township Grille... But he's not always right. It's funny because when he and Bruce Nolan do their "look back at the previous year and what I would have done show" every year...IMHO it's not THAT impressive in hindsight. I do far less film study and feel like I can go toe-to-toe...Not on the breaking down film side...Don't get me wrong. But in projecting who will be good in the NFL, and team building... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Cash said: BBB says he’ll be at OLB for now. This is a head-scratcher for me. Not considered a value pick. At OLB, doesn’t particularly fill a need either. I don’t really see the point here to be honest. BBB also said they thought about trading down, but would have had to move back further than they were comfortable with. My response: Learn to be more comfortable. You can always trade back up after trading down. I'm sure Beane would love to hear your advice 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said: Demand jones has been said to be lazy and unmotivated. Not a Process guy. Also a first rd talent guy that maybe you can motivate. Unlike this 5th rd talent that’s undersized and will never ever start 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 Just now, Einstein said: He’s way too small to be a MLB. Tell that to London Fletcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 I dont really get the pick, but at this point there arent any players left that I know that well anyways. Like others said, low talent draft. So it's whatever from here on out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 26 minutes ago, DJB said: Someone tell me how to feel so I can be angry or happy Horny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, daz28 said: We've been chasing the undersized linebacker ST demon, like the dragon, for years. Not in the 3rd, we haven't. Dunno the thought behind this, but I'm confident STs isn't more than the 3rd or 4th consideration here. I wish they'd traded back here. I guess they'd have had to trade back too far, they say? I'd rather they'd done that. But I don't know Williams at all. I could very easily be proven wrong. Edited April 29, 2023 by Thurman#1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Pbomb said: Maybe joe Marino should be our gm Not just him. Basically every report I have read has him as a back-up linebacker/ teams player. That is 5th/6th round value, not late 3rd. We will see but they don't really get the benefit of the doubt as their day 2 picks have been horrible the last few years 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Augie said: Thanks, I’ll take that as a first good sign regarding someone I know nothing about. Playing MLB at 228lbs sounds like a challenge. What is he like? He has the instincts that Simpson lacks to read and diagnose plays. He’s an above average Blitzer and he is good in coverage in zone particularly. He does need some work if he’s manned up on someone but what LB doesn’t. He is undersized and it would probably help to have a couple big DTs in front of him but it doesn’t look like we’re going to get that unless they take a big man in the 5th 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 11 minutes ago, TampaBillsJunkie said: We don't have a 4th, so if he was on the radar, I guess we pulled the trigger. Big run on LB's in this round. Yup, our hand may have not been forced, but we were left with what they didn't want. It may not be a reach, but it feels like it probably was. The argument that he's too small is silly, because all the other ILB's were the same weight basically. That argument comes down to talent 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: You didn't like Edmunds and Milano?!? Edmunds was not the right choice and Milano was developed and a longshot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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