Matt_In_NH Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 he is an outstanding returner. I wanted this to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 It sounds like we didn’t get the details of the reduction/restructure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) If he has the exact same role as last year, $3.5 million is way too expensive. If they plan on actually using him on the offense I'm good with it. Edited March 13, 2023 by HappyDays 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Whoops Happy cleared it up. Thanks HD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Absurd. McBeane will never change. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 21 minutes ago, HappyDays said: If he has the exact same role as last year, $3.5 million I'd way too expensive. If they plan on actually using him on the offense I'm good with it. Mmmm - I think even if he was a returner only player that’s not a bad number. But he does play situational RB role Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 32 minutes ago, HappyDays said: If he has the exact same role as last year, $3.5 million is way too expensive. If they plan on actually using him on the offense I'm good with it. I think with a full offseason with the offense they plan on him being more of a factor in the gameplan. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 41 minutes ago, HappyDays said: If he has the exact same role as last year, $3.5 million is way too expensive. If they plan on actually using him on the offense I'm good with it. Agree. If they can get him the ball the way he did in 2020 it will be a good deal. Nyhiem is a niche player. I get the feeling it's more on our young OC to get him the ball than Nyhiem himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 3 hours ago, SWATeam said: Glad he’s back, he was criminally underused. the most head scratching aspect of the entire year was the major emphasis on finding multiple pass catching backs, only to never use them. They did use some of the time but not as much as many would have liked. Part of it was injury to Josh's arm which made some throws difficult and painful which has been documented before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 They need to get this guy involved in the offense, or cutting him would have been the right move. We can’t afford the luxury of a high cap special teams player. If he can produce as a receiving/third down back, then it is a good deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Our offense was almost identical to 2021 with Daboll. They got hot in the playoffs. Only difference. Worst game of Allen’s career imo was home vs Atlanta late 2021 season. Point is people are being way to harsh on Dorsey. Expectations were sky high. He did improve redzone as the year went on. I think he’ll be fine. I hope you are correct. I think the issue is that it was the same as Dorsey, it didn't evolve and in some ways relapsed. You need to be multiple in how you attack defenses. With our current OL that presents issues, but the play calling seemed stagnant after the 1st games and other teams had us "figured out" with minimal adjustments, particularly only putting up 10 vs. Cincy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Really like Hines. Really wish we didn't have Dorsey as our OC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Process said: Absurd. McBeane will never change. The way I read this we are paying him at least $4M to play in 2023 with incentives to earn more. That's way way too much unless we substantially change the way he is used. Waiting for final details but not happy ATM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 2 hours ago, HappyDays said: If he has the exact same role as last year, $3.5 million is way too expensive. If they plan on actually using him on the offense I'm good with it. Easier to use something when you actually have it to start the year. He's small but just.. use him like a running back. Do some Cook/Hines/Mckenzie type of formation for some gadgetry, but he is a running back and can play running back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 4 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Leodis sucked Leodis was an awesome return guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 48 minutes ago, cba fan said: Leodis was an awesome return guy. Except for that horrible fumble against Dallas that Monday night game. I didn't like him, could barely speak English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 11 minutes ago, I'm Spartacus said: Except for that horrible fumble against Dallas that Monday night game. I didn't like him, could barely speak English. Was against NE, I believe, in the first game of the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 hour ago, No_Matter_What said: The way I read this we are paying him at least $4M to play in 2023 with incentives to earn more. That's way way too much unless we substantially change the way he is used. Waiting for final details but not happy ATM. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/nyheim-hines-25205/ It's looking like a 1-year deal that will have to wait to see if they keep him in 2024. I think that has more to do with our OC than Nyhiem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 One less ST and offensive role player hope to fill and some cap savings all around a solid transaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 6 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Would argue our best special teams returner since a young Eric Moulds in addition to being a pretty darn good third down back U never heard of Terrance McGee? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 6 hours ago, Paup 1995MVP said: You forgot about Terrance McGee on Kickoffs. And Leodis McKelvin on punts. Roscoe? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Really happy the Bills were able to keep him. It solidifies the return game. Hopefully, he can contribute more on the offense. Good job by Beane. It's often the less than splashy moves that go a long way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 6 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Leodis sucked He was excellent as a punt returner. And he didn't suck at CB. He wasn't great. But he had some good play for us. 4 minutes ago, daz28 said: Roscoe? Roscoe Parrish made some splash on punt returns. He sure was small though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said: He was excellent as a punt returner. And he didn't suck at CB. He wasn't great. But he had some good play for us. Roscoe Parrish made some splash on punt returns. He sure was small though. He sucked 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, Dablitzkrieg said: He sucked He didn’t suck at returning punts- but he sucked at everything else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 7 hours ago, Big Turk said: Beane is a wizard in getting players to take pay cuts but then guaranteeing the lower contract. Win-win for both Bills and players. Just did the same thing with Tim Settle to save another 600K. Glad to have Settle back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 His contract is already worth it. I’ve not worried less about punt returns. And that’s even counting the one he muffed in front of my section at the Dolphins game. Still more confident than McKenzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Nice. He’s a pretty good returner. We don’t beat Miami in the playoffs without him. Kick returner is now locked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 I am surprised. THought RB was an easy pistol to save more cap by cutting him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 8 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Would argue our best special teams returner since a young Eric Moulds in addition to being a pretty darn good third down back You missed Terrence McGee who was probably best in Bills history. 35 minutes ago, Chaos said: I am surprised. THought RB was an easy pistol to save more cap by cutting him. He is RB and return guy. Lets you keep one less WR that would solely be for returns. Also probably allows them to choose Crowder over McKenzie for final WR spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 14 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: You missed Terrence McGee who was probably best in Bills history. He is RB and return guy. Lets you keep one less WR that would solely be for returns. Also probably allows them to choose Crowder over McKenzie for final WR spot. Not clear he is worth 4 million of cap space vs a different JAG RB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) I really don't care about the return game. I hope he gets more playing time as a RB/WR Edited March 13, 2023 by motorj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, Chaos said: Not clear he is worth 4 million of cap space vs a different JAG RB. Good point. He's more valuable than a guy like Jones and Kukerow in my opinion though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 10 hours ago, SWATeam said: Glad he’s back, he was criminally underused. the most head scratching aspect of the entire year was the major emphasis on finding multiple pass catching backs, only to never use them. Agreed. They need to fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: He is RB and return guy. Lets you keep one less WR that would solely be for returns. Also probably allows them to choose Crowder over McKenzie for final WR spot. It would be nice to have a guy a little better than both of those. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 10 hours ago, Paup 1995MVP said: You forgot about Terrance McGee on Kickoffs. And Leodis McKelvin on punts. and Roscoe Parrish on punts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 10 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Would argue our best special teams returner since a young Eric Moulds in addition to being a pretty darn good third down back When? Where? In his career, he has converted 11 (of 24) 3rd downs rushing and 17 (of 42) receiving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 57 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: When? Where? In his career, he has converted 11 (of 24) 3rd downs rushing and 17 (of 42) receiving. Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 23 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: Exactly that's pretty darn bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: that's pretty darn bad To you it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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