WhoTom Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said: I just checked the tape Cole, and you're wrong. Long Covid can lead to cognitive disorders. Maybe he forgot. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, WhoTom said: Long Covid can lead to cognitive disorders. Maybe he forgot. Can we not do this? Especially knowing what we know now. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: Digging his own grave I am a big Beasley fan, but this was a really dumb post. Jets are pretty stacked at WR, he gained nothing by this post. Small chance he could have been brought into camp to see if he still has anything left to offer. Pretty sure that is gone now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, SCBills said: Can we not do this? Especially knowing what we know now. Someone else mentioned concussions. I simply pointed out another physical affliction that could cause memory loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 You got to be pretty desperate to trade for a 39 year old quarterback who talks about retirement almost every week. This is not even a good plug in player. This is not Tom Brady, it more like a Ryan Fitzpatrick looking for one last fling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, HOUSE said: You got to be pretty desperate to trade for a 39 year old quarterback who talks about retirement almost every week. This is not even a good plug in player. This is not Tom Brady, it more like a Ryan Fitzpatrick looking for one last fling The thing that makes me feel like this is a good thing for the Jets is that the aforementioned 39 year old QB went on a "darkness retreat" to help him decide if he wanted to play football again. Everyone knows that going on a "darkness retreat" is a very powerful experience that can help a person make major life decisions. Granted, its not as powerful as rubbing crystals on your nipples or wearing Copper Socks, but it is still powerful none the less. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 32 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: The thing that makes me feel like this is a good thing for the Jets is that the aforementioned 39 year old QB went on a "darkness retreat" to help him decide if he wanted to play football again. Everyone knows that going on a "darkness retreat" is a very powerful experience that can help a person make major life decisions. Granted, its not as powerful as rubbing crystals on your nipples or wearing Copper Socks, but it is still powerful none the less. A Magic 8-ball would have been cheaper, easier and less mind-altering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Dr.Mantis_Toboggan said: While I think you can make the argument Allen is possibly ahead of Rodgers at this point in his career, Rodgers is one year removed from back to back MVPs and has won four total. I don’t think Cole is trying to stir anything up, one guy has 4 MVPs and a ring, the other has two rings in 3 Super Bowl appearances already with 2 MVP awards. Rodgers probably the best regular season QB ever… Josh is great, best QB in Bills history, but the resume doesn’t have the accolades of the other two and until he starts adding some hardware to his list of accomplishments in this league, he’s always going to be viewed as just behind those other guys, and in terms of league perception, Burrow has passed him… I think that’s crazy, but you hear it in the way “analysts” talk about Mahomes, Burrow, then Allen… which I prefer anyway, 17 plays better with a chip on his shoulder rather than a world of expectations. I fully agree with you, its a reasonable take, but some things you dont say. I dont tell my gf which chicks are hotter, and Id never reveal her ranking lollllllllll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 16 minutes ago, Doc said: A Magic 8-ball would have been cheaper, easier and less mind-altering. Whenever I used a magic 8-ball, I just woke up with an empty wallet, weird smells, and an unfamiliar car with a broken window in my driveway. It was a different time back in 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: Whenever I used a magic 8-ball, I just woke up with an empty wallet, weird smells, and an unfamiliar car with a broken window in my driveway. It was a different time back in 2020 You got the one with "hooker and blow" in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Just now, Doc said: You got the one with "hooker and blow" in it? Every. Damn. Time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Super Fan Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Aaron Rodgers is no Bart Starr, Paul Horning, Reggie White to name few Green Bay Packers great players. Is Aaron Rodgers kidding his ego has no boundaries best Green Bay Packers player? Ok cowboy we will see what is left in the QB tank with the always bumbling New York Jets one of the worst NFL franchises one could go as a aging star player at the end of his Hall of Fame career. It’s actually pretty sad John Unitas as a San Diego Chargers and Joe Namath as a Los Angeles Rams sad in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 5 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Cherry picking.... Yeah, they forgot the more recent example of Russell Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 31 minutes ago, Saint Doug said: Yeah, they forgot the more recent example of Russell Wilson. I mean I get it. If we were in the same shoes as Jets fans, we would be glorifying this tweet. But since it has to do with the Jets, I hope Rodgers gets them to 8-9, not in a good spot to draft a QB high, Rodgers retires and Jets fans can S my D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Inigo Montoya said: The thing that makes me feel like this is a good thing for the Jets is that the aforementioned 39 year old QB went on a "darkness retreat" to help him decide if he wanted to play football again. Everyone knows that going on a "darkness retreat" is a very powerful experience that can help a person make major life decisions. Granted, its not as powerful as rubbing crystals on your nipples or wearing Copper Socks, but it is still powerful none the less. best part was he left the retreat 2-3 days early. What idiot pays for someone to turn the lights out? If he wanted to relax just go rent a cabin deep in the woods or on a mountain and don’t turn the lights on. No extra charge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 So polarizing! So juicy! In a weird way both the Jets and the Pack could back out. Awkward if Rodgers ends up alone.... If I am the Jets I make GB sweat to the draft now. Could the cheese head QB be the cheese? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 Anyone else notice how its been 3 business days since the Rodgers announcement of intentions and suddenly Green Bay is the worst run franchise ever according to the talking heads who openly root for the Jets? These intense opinions about the franchise were nowhere to be found last year when Rodgers held them hostage yet again for an extension he's unwilling to play out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 On 3/17/2023 at 6:46 PM, RocCityRoller said: So polarizing! So juicy! In a weird way both the Jets and the Pack could back out. Awkward if Rodgers ends up alone.... If I am the Jets I make GB sweat to the draft now. Could the cheese head QB be the cheese? This is basically a done deal. Rodgers to the Jets next season...which is going to make our division that much tougher. Now it's a waiting game. It's simply a question of how much GB can squeeze out of the Jets...but they don't have a ton of leverage as the deal is sort of now done. They'll string it out as far as they can and maybe turn it into a hostile situation at the end...I still think it will happen in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RocCityRoller Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) On 3/19/2023 at 10:43 AM, Nextmanup said: This is basically a done deal. Rodgers to the Jets next season...which is going to make our division that much tougher. Now it's a waiting game. It's simply a question of how much GB can squeeze out of the Jets...but they don't have a ton of leverage as the deal is sort of now done. They'll string it out as far as they can and maybe turn it into a hostile situation at the end...I still think it will happen in the end. I hear Stafford is now in play.... GB may have overplayed their hand. Maybe Denver is too with a player or two..... Edited March 21, 2023 by RocCityRoller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 On 3/19/2023 at 5:53 PM, Warcodered said: Even Mr. Rodgers can't resist!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuscott16 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 On 3/19/2023 at 3:53 PM, Warcodered said: In some southern states I think that much touching makes you married. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Not ONE analyst has mentioned the fact that Rodgers is going from one of the best pass protecting lines to one of the worst. Did they not see what happened to Wilson and White behind that atrocity of a line? Still shocked nobody seems to recognize that! It's a huge deal with an old QB like Rodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Are they still talking or have they hit that awkward silence period? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyo321 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) I really think this deal is going to fall apart. Green Bay is going to want two first round draft picks and the Jets are not going to give them that. Edited March 21, 2023 by Toyo321 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Whats the hold up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Green Bay has them both over a barrel. They don’t have to hand him over for nothing. They want something of value or they can tell him he can’t go. It’s funny because Rodgers pulls crap on them every offseason so they are pulling crap on him now! I hope they are asking for players and not just picks. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behindenemylines Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 7 hours ago, Toyo321 said: I really think this deal is going to fall apart. Green Bay is going to want two first round draft picks and the Jets are not going to give them that. I believe you underestimate the stupidity of the Jets 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Behindenemylines said: I believe you underestimate the stupidity of the Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 11 hours ago, Toyo321 said: I really think this deal is going to fall apart. Green Bay is going to want two first round draft picks and the Jets are not going to give them that. I think GB will settle for a 1st this year and two more picks. Some combination of maybe two 3rds. One this year and one next year that becomes a second rounder if Rodgers plays in 2024. Jets really have no choice but to pay whatever GB asks for. I just thinking the asking price from GB comes down eventually. GB is definitely getting a 1st and 3rd at minimum, I think. No rush on GB's part though so might as well as continue to ask for two firsts at least up to the draft. 8 hours ago, Locomark said: I hope they are asking for players and not just picks. Agreed! Would rather get Sauce Gardner and a 3rd rounder over two 1st rounders bacck from the Jets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 8 hours ago, Locomark said: Green Bay has them both over a barrel. They don’t have to hand him over for nothing. They want something of value or they can tell him he can’t go. It’s funny because Rodgers pulls crap on them every offseason so they are pulling crap on him now! I hope they are asking for players and not just picks. No, they don't. If GB doesn't work out a trade they have to pay Rodgers $60M and I don't think they want to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) Jets have 100% of the leverage here and there is no way Green Bay is getting a top 15 overall pick for a 39 year old QB with a $50 million salary who will probably retire next offseason. Plus, don't forget: Love has put the word out that he will demand a trade if Rodgers comes back. Green Bay cannot afford to have Rodgers coming back with his enormous salary. Does anyone truly believe that he'll be backing up Jordan Love? LOL Even assuming the Packers went with that plan, they would get nothing for Rodgers in a trade, pay him $50+ million, and have a never ending circus going on while they're trying to hand the baton to Love. Plus the Packers would have 2 disgruntled, angry QBs who want out in that scenario. I am going to really enjoy watching Green Bay fall into the abyss for the foreseeable future. They turned $1M into $750K with both Favre and Rodgers. Lucked into 2 HOF QBs and refused to do what was necessary to surround them with the talent and coaching (aside from Holmgren and Favre) to win more rings. Edited March 21, 2023 by TheFunPolice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 54 minutes ago, nucci said: No, they don't. If GB doesn't work out a trade they have to pay Rodgers $60M and I don't think they want to do that. Well, no, not exactly. The contract gives Rodgers an "option bonus" of $58M, exercisable between Mar 17 and Week 1. If it's exercised, it amortizes over the life of the contract and GB owes Rodgers $31M this season but it makes him less tradeable in future years as it gives them more dead cap. But they have until Week 1, so they can sit and wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 48 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Jets have 100% of the leverage here and there is no way Green Bay is getting a top 15 overall pick for a 39 year old QB with a $50 million salary who will probably retire next offseason. Plus, don't forget: Love has put the word out that he will demand a trade if Rodgers comes back. Green Bay cannot afford to have Rodgers coming back with his enormous salary. Does anyone truly believe that he'll be backing up Jordan Love? LOL Even assuming the Packers went with that plan, they would get nothing for Rodgers in a trade, pay him $50+ million, and have a never ending circus going on while they're trying to hand the baton to Love. Plus the Packers would have 2 disgruntled, angry QBs who want out in that scenario. I am going to really enjoy watching Green Bay fall into the abyss for the foreseeable future. They turned $1M into $750K with both Favre and Rodgers. Lucked into 2 HOF QBs and refused to do what was necessary to surround them with the talent and coaching (aside from Holmgren and Favre) to win more rings. Your last point is so true. The Packers get so much credit from the media for being this smart, efficient organization. They’ve used 14 of 17 first picks in the draft during the Rodgers era on defense, and have taken a disengaged approach to free agency. They have gotten the least out a 15 years of Rodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 54 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Jets have 100% of the leverage here and there is no way Green Bay is getting a top 15 overall pick for a 39 year old QB with a $50 million salary who will probably retire next offseason. Kind of feels like the opposite of this, maybe that makes some sort of common sense, but the Jets have gone all in giving all the leverage to Rogers and the Packers. They've signed multiple former teammates and Hacket to draw him there, it's had to think of a team more blatantly committed to making a move than them at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, TheFunPolice said: Jets have 100% of the leverage here and there is no way Green Bay is getting a top 15 overall pick for a 39 year old QB with a $50 million salary who will probably retire next offseason. Plus, don't forget: Love has put the word out that he will demand a trade if Rodgers comes back. Green Bay cannot afford to have Rodgers coming back with his enormous salary. Does anyone truly believe that he'll be backing up Jordan Love? LOL Even assuming the Packers went with that plan, they would get nothing for Rodgers in a trade, pay him $50+ million, and have a never ending circus going on while they're trying to hand the baton to Love. Plus the Packers would have 2 disgruntled, angry QBs who want out in that scenario. I am going to really enjoy watching Green Bay fall into the abyss for the foreseeable future. They turned $1M into $750K with both Favre and Rodgers. Lucked into 2 HOF QBs and refused to do what was necessary to surround them with the talent and coaching (aside from Holmgren and Favre) to win more rings. Seems like the opposite is true regarding who has the leverage. Jets appear to have put their eggs in the Rodgers basket and will probably have to cave at some point. If I’m GB then I’m in no hurry to trade him. I’d sooner pay him to not play than give him away for peanuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 22 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Well, no, not exactly. The contract gives Rodgers an "option bonus" of $58M, exercisable between Mar 17 and Week 1. If it's exercised, it amortizes over the life of the contract and GB owes Rodgers $31M this season but it makes him less tradeable in future years as it gives them more dead cap. But they have until Week 1, so they can sit and wait. If GB can wait until week 1 then I could see the Jets moving on. They will need/want their new QB to develop some chemistry in the offseason with his new teammates otherwise they risk having Zach start the season for them. I doubt they want that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Gregg said: If GB can wait until week 1 then I could see the Jets moving on. They will need/want their new QB to develop some chemistry in the offseason with his new teammates otherwise they risk having Zach start the season for them. I doubt they want that. Yes, I agree - the Jets need to pull the trigger much earlier. Not just chemistry, but they need a playbook tailored to the strengths of their QB whoever that might be. But they've already limited their options at QB. Who will they move on to, at this point? My point was only that I think GB kind of has the Jets over a bit of a barrel here. Edited March 21, 2023 by Beck Water 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Your last point is so true. The Packers get so much credit from the media for being this smart, efficient organization. They’ve used 14 of 17 first picks in the draft during the Rodgers era on defense, and have taken a disengaged approach to free agency. They have gotten the least out a 15 years of Rodgers. And 17 years of Favre before that. I know it’s a little crazy to criticize an organization that won two Lombardi Trophies during the Favre/Rodgers eras when the Bills are still in search of their first. But to see a team go over 30 consecutive years with first ballot HOF QBs only win two is borderline pathetic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Green Bay isn't spending money like a drunken sailor this FA period. It almost seems like they expect to be paying Rodgers this season. Sauce Gardner lining up on one side and Jaire Alexander lining up on the other would make the Packers tough to pass on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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