Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Quote Lost in AFC Divisional Round Buffalo Bills I love their team. I think they need a lot of work on defense. However they, conceptually, need a different style of running game and maybe even different personnel in their running game if they’re going to improve. They need to improve their offensive line as well. I think Tampa Bay and Buffalo were similar teams. Each was a one-man show. Buffalo has a great receiver in Stefon Diggs. Tampa has a great receiver in Mike Evans. But it was too much on Brady, and it was too much on Josh Allen. You just can’t play solitaire in the NFL and expect to win. https://www.the33rdteam.com/category/analysis/analyzing-every-nfl-playoff-team-projecting-their-futures/ 3 1 18 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: https://www.the33rdteam.com/category/analysis/analyzing-every-nfl-playoff-team-projecting-their-futures/ Question: is there any commentator out there who does not think this? 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Yeah I think their personnel is tailor made fo a gap scheme run mix. That is when they are at their best. Their run and pass games are super vanilla, zero play action. As much as he sucks as a play caller, a little Greg Roman run game would really help their cause. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: Question: is there any commentator out there who does not think this? I see a lot of "commentators" saying this loss is proof that Allen is overrated and/or not very good. Can't carry a team, chokes in playoffs, etc. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Parcells knows his stuff like very few others. He's been one of the most respected opinions among NFL people for decades. Beane, please listen to him. I'd love to hear Parcells' opinion on Frazier & his scheme. I already know what it'd be, but I'd be in for the laughs. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sestak4ever Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 He says we need a lot of work on defense and offense. So, where do we start? Coordinators maybe? Some key personnel? Big off season questions for Beane and company. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 minute ago, 947 said: Parcells knows his stuff like very few others. He's been one of the most respected opinions among NFL people for decades. Beane, please listen to him. I'd love to hear Parcells' opinion on Frazier & his scheme. I already know what it'd be, but I'd be in for the laughs. Sounds like he thinks we need talent on defense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1onemangang7 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Question: is there any commentator out there who does not think this? Yes. A boat load of Cook loving Bills fans 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Did Parcells just have an epiphany about this? We need a different O-line and more receivers is what he came up with. Oh yea, and a new defensive scheme. Wake me up when he tells us we need more cap flexibility. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Yeah I think their personnel is tailor made fo a gap scheme run mix. That is when they are at their best. Their run and pass games are super vanilla, zero play action. As much as he sucks as a play caller, a little Greg Roman run game would really help their cause. Wouldn't mind Roman came back only as a run game coordinator only to help out run. (only run game coordinator) 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 He's not wrong. Good read. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Just now, Buffalo Bills Fan said: Wouldn't mind Roman came back only as a run game coordinator only to help out run. (only run game coordinator) No. He'll get an OC job somewhere once all the HC jobs are filled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Josh has been papering over deficiencies on this team the last couple of seasons. It caught up with them last Sunday. If the Bills are going to win a Super Bowl he is going to need some more help. 5 6 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 9 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: I see a lot of "commentators" saying this loss is proof that Allen is overrated and/or not very good. Can't carry a team, chokes in playoffs, etc. He played lights-out in the playoffs last year. The defense choked against the Chiefs. This year, it was pretty much a team failure (including Josh) in the playoffs. And no QB can carry a team entirely by himself (see Green Bay), but it's safe to say that Josh carries as much of it as anyone could reasonably expect. 2 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 16 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: I see a lot of "commentators" saying this loss is proof that Allen is overrated and/or not very good. Can't carry a team, chokes in playoffs, etc. That was probably his worst playoff game to date and he was still good given the circumstances imo…he was under immediate pressure on pretty much every snap. those commentators are full of sh*t and they know it lol 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 19 minutes ago, 1onemangang7 said: Yes. A boat load of Cook loving Bills fans Stop with the damn heat on Cook He actually performed whenever he got opportunities 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 20 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: I see a lot of "commentators" saying this loss is proof that Allen is overrated and/or not very good. Can't carry a team, chokes in playoffs, etc. This organization (McBeane) has failed Josh in every way you can handcuff a generational qb. They've wasted 6 years failing to build a decent OL. They failed finding Josh a capable RB. They have nothing at WR past a frustrated Diggs. I took nearly 3 years for Knox to stop dropping balls. Meanwhile McDermott's defense might be one of the most over- rated defenses ever. After Miller & Milano it's a wasteland. So far no impact coaches fired. It's status qou time in Buffalo. Just tell JA to go out there next season and do it all. What could possibly go wrong. 4 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 32 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Sounds like he thinks we need talent on defense. Parcels believes in drafting big bodies; Beane drafts tweeners like ‘lil Ed and Epenesa. 13 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Stop with the damn heat on Cook He actually performed whenever he got opportunities I agree. The run schemes were awful. RBs were not the problem. Cook looked good in the second half of the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Large Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: Josh has been papering over deficiencies on this team the last couple of seasons. It caught up with them last Sunday. If the Bills are going to win a Super Bowl he is going to need some more help. Elway won his rings when he had a running game, and very pedestrian game stats. Maybe we can figure this out before Josh is 37/38 years old.... Outside of that he carried teams to wins and super bowl appearances for years.... Edited January 26, 2023 by B-Large 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 20 minutes ago, mannc said: Parcels believes in drafting big bodies; Beane drafts tweeners like ‘lil Ed and Epenesa. I agree. The run schemes were awful. RBs were not the problem. Cook looked good in the second half of the season. Epenesa was pretty big when drafted, same as Basham. They asked them to lose weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 43 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: It caught up with them last Sunday. If the Bills are going to win a Super Bowl he is going to need some more help. I thought that the first 9 minutes of the game in Cinci were a preview of exactly what happened Sunday. Cinci's offense ran like a hot knife through butter through the Bills D before Hamlin went down. Dawkins is the only OL starter that's considered a quality NFL player. Josh has one reliable WR, and his decent RB is probably too expensive to keep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Just get an aggressive d coordinator Draft offensive line( one guard would make a huge difference) Tell Allen to get the ball out of his hands on occasion. Sometimes he’s his own worst enemy We are always going to be right there with Allen 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Sestak4ever said: He says we need a lot of work on defense and offense. So, where do we start? Coordinators maybe? Some key personnel? Big off season questions for Beane and company. Drafting more mediocre D lineman is the best way to go in my mind.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Thanks Bill I wish somebody paid me a million for obvious advice 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Why do we still ask their old guys what they think and pay it gospel? Didn’t Polian embarrass himself enough. Parcells, a legend, is so outdated on his nfl thoughts. Based on his rule of how to draft qbs, he would have never even picked Allen. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said: Yeah I think their personnel is tailor made fo a gap scheme run mix. That is when they are at their best. Their run and pass games are super vanilla, zero play action. As much as he sucks as a play caller, a little Greg Roman run game would really help their cause. we have the guy who helped design this run game on staff already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Lost in AFC Divisional Round Buffalo Bills I love their team. I think they need a lot of work on defense. However they, conceptually, need a different style of running game and maybe even different personnel in their running game if they’re going to improve. They need to improve their offensive line as well. I think Tampa Bay and Buffalo were similar teams. Each was a one-man show. Buffalo has a great receiver in Stefon Diggs. Tampa has a great receiver in Mike Evans. But it was too much on Brady, and it was too much on Josh Allen. You just can’t play solitaire in the NFL and expect to win. Great minds! Stevie Wonder said the same thing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 11 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Epenesa was pretty big when drafted, same as Basham. They asked them to lose weight. Then we get pushed around! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 14 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Epenesa was pretty big when drafted, same as Basham. They asked them to lose weight. Basham looked like he needed to lose weight. Epenesa, I don't quite understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 hour ago, 1onemangang7 said: Yes. A boat load of Cook loving Bills fans What GALLS ME to no end is that we HAVE the talent to have a great running game, but our coaching severely limits its potential, and that includes Cook. 4 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Why do we still ask their old guys what they think and pay it gospel? Didn’t Polian embarrass himself enough. Parcells, a legend, is so outdated on his nfl thoughts. Based on his rule of how to draft qbs, he would have never even picked Allen. Just because he is old doesn't make him wrong! This from someone who is probably as old as I am... that's what you call irony. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Wayne Arnold said: I see a lot of "commentators" saying this loss is proof that Allen is overrated and/or not very good. Can't carry a team, chokes in playoffs, etc. Ive heard Cam Newton comparisons but I have yet to ever hear anyone say Allen is overrated. A guy with 180 touchdowns in less than 5 years is basically a one man franchise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Beck Water said: Question: is there any commentator out there who does not think this? Greg Cosell said this on the Cowherd show today. His most biting remark was that the Bills "have a below average offensive line from an NFL standpoint". This makes their production all the more amazing over the course of the season. It also explains why as the playoff competition improves the Achilles heel of to little Offensive talent outside of Allen & Diggs comes back to bite the Bills big time. Remember what happened to Reid, Mahomes, Kelsey and Hill in the SB against TB when they had to play with a banged up O line that was much below average in that game. If we fix the line a lot of the other stuff on offense - Allen checking down more, Dorsey being more creative and better WR's, become nice to have not essential components for success. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Wayne Arnold said: I see a lot of "commentators" saying this loss is proof that Allen is overrated and/or not very good. Can't carry a team, chokes in playoffs, etc. I haven't heard a single commentator who I respect and has a track record of actually knowing things about football say that. I have heard plenty of trolling personalities desperate for clicks and controversy say it. In fact the game this Sunday reinforced for the knowledgeable football analyst just how deficient the Bills are on the O line and in their skill players beyond Diggs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 It's probably where I'm at after the Cincy game that's causing this - but all I read was, they have a great team but they need everything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Beck Water said: Question: is there any commentator out there who does not think this? Question: if we accept all of his comments as a given, where are those conceptual changes and improvements going to come from this off-season, with exactly the same people running the team? None of that will happen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: Stop with the damn heat on Cook He actually performed whenever he got opportunities Cook is good, just not built for the pounding of the rock 1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said: zero play action No team feared a Bills runner not named Allen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 I think everyone seems to understand that the o-line was not good this past season and needs significant upgrades, but it is kind of galling that our defense is such a mess with so many resources (i.e., free agents and high draft picks) devoted to it over the past number of years. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 51 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Thanks Bill I wish somebody paid me a million for obvious advice 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 hour ago, mannc said: Parcels believes in drafting big bodies; Beane drafts tweeners like ‘lil Ed and Epenesa. Epenesa was big enough when he was drafted … but then the coaches asked him to lose 30 pounds..: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Epenesa was big enough when he was drafted … but then the coaches asked him to lose 30 pounds..: Guys who are asked to lose or gain weight after they are drafted are by definition “tweeners”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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