Dorsey will interview with Carolina this weekend for head coaching job

[BillsfaninSB]

1 hour ago, PetermansRedemption said:

Or Kingsbury, would just have to send a missionary group to Thailand to find him deep in the jungle and bring him back. 

Kind of like Captain Benjamin Willard In Apocalypse Now.

 

“The horror!”

[Matt_In_NH]

1 hour ago, TH3 said:

Another clueless post….Atta boy!

Easy Karen 

[ganesh]

4 hours ago, PetermansRedemption said:

Or Kingsbury, would just have to send a missionary group to Thailand to find him deep in the jungle and bring him back. 

We have Mike Shula already in the building!

[Freddie's Dead]

4 hours ago, BruceVilanch said:

What would ya say ya do here??

 

I'M A PEOPLE PERSON!!!

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

3 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

Would be interesting to see if McD would go that route.  My take on Dorsey is as an ex QB he's too enamored with the pass.  So not sure I'd want to grab another ex QB for OC position.  That may have been the advantage of Daboll, not being an ex player.

 

 I know we played 1 less game this year, but Josh had 99 more pass attempts last year. This isn't just a Dorsey problem, it's been going on since the start of the 2020 season. Ever since Josh made the "leap" they both have been running around like children going look at my brand new shiny toy.

 

 Daboll ran Josh about the same last year as Dorsey did this year. All rushing attempts outside of our QBs were nearly identical both years with 324 attempts in 2021. This year when pro-rating off of the 301 attempts in 16 games we would've hit 320 attempts. Dorsey actually has a little more balanced run to pass ratio than Daboll did, but not by alot.

 

 

 

[Augie]

5 hours ago, teef said:

a lot of the time these are superficial zoom meetings to see if they should go into the multiple day interviews, ( as is my understanding).  this happens every year.  i don't think there's much concern there.

 

I think these Zoom things are generally done in the men’s room, by the urinals. NOT the sinks! The FO is not a bunch of filthy animals! 

[JohnBonhamRocks]

Jooooooooe Brady come on down! You are the next contestant on the BILLS! O! C!

 

[97bills]

4 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

I hope he gets the job so we can get a more seasoned OC, hopefully one that understands how to consistently incorporate the run game and also scheme receivers open.  

 

Dorsey isn't a disaster, he has done a decent job in his first season as an OC.  But he still has weak spots like in game adjustments, poor redzone play calling, lack of consistency in using our running backs, and lack of creativity by not scheming guys open more.

I’m with you on this!!! 

[78thealltimegreat]

I guess Joe Brady will just be next in line after Dorsey goes this year or next year 

[DapperCam]

2 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

I guess Joe Brady will just be next in line after Dorsey goes this year or next year 

It’s almost like the Bills are planning ahead. I never thought I’d see the day.

[John from Riverside]

2 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

I guess Joe Brady will just be next in line after Dorsey goes this year or next year 

Give credit to the team for lining these next guys up for whenever they lose them

[GreggTX]

Why? He's been so-so in his first year as OC. Who's next? Hackett?

 

[Nextmanup]

I am by no means a Dorsey hater, but if here were to get this gig, I'd be perfectly fine with it.

I don't think he represents ANYTHING as an OC that can't be relatively easily replaced, and probably improved.

 

 

[LeGOATski]

15 minutes ago, GreggTX said:

Why? He's been so-so in his first year as OC. Who's next? Hackett?

 

Nooooooo!! We want the Jets to hire Hackett

[london_bills]

He's only been here 5 minutes 

[LeGOATski]

3 hours ago, DapperCam said:

It’s almost like the Bills are planning ahead. I never thought I’d see the day.

Yep, successful teams lose personnel faster. You need good people in the pipeline....and good people WANT to be in that pipeline. Josh Allen is going to make other people lots of money.

[Man with No Name]

we need a Tom moore who will just be there for 100 years in a row. 

[OZBILLS]

[DrPJax]

13 hours ago, teef said:

a lot of the time these are superficial zoom meetings to see if they should go into the multiple day interviews, ( as is my understanding).  this happens every year.  i don't think there's much concern there.

Weren’t the pegulas against allowing interviews before playoff games before?  Even if it’s by zoom , Dorsey still is not just going in unprepared and winging it.  Doing a possible career changing interview a day or two prior to playing against a team whose staff is fully preparing , seems unfair to all involved. Honestly , if I was seriously considering hiring someone , I want their undivided attention , not someone distracted.  
This is a joke , and if I was dorsey , I would not interview at this time. It’s not like the Carolina brain trust could not shift until at least Monday , and it’s not a high profile job right now.  It’s only his first year as an OC, both parties should see if he stands the test of time regarding success as next years competition in the division will  be improving.  
There is no advantage to doing an interview while a guy is actively working on an upcoming game and the NFL should not allow this.  So if the Bills O comes out and lays an egg , loses , do you still want that candidate ? How will the players feel if the game plan falls flat ; I would be pissed if a business partner blew off a big meeting that cost me an opportunity and income.   All these coaches talk about how time consuming preparation is, sleeping at the office , etc and then you allow hours to be spent prepping under less than ideal circumstances for what is likely a long shot chance ?  
What does this say about how dorsey is viewed in the organization; if valued I would just give him the assistant coach title , a raise , knock off the interview and not allow this distraction.  If they lose , this is not going to go over well. 

[BillMafia716ix]

Hopefully he gets hired

[Buffalo_Stampede]

14 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said:

Hopefully he gets hired

Copy and paste from Brian Daboll threads last year.

[Billever76]

2 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

Yep, successful teams lose personnel faster. You need good people in the pipeline....and good people WANT to be in that pipeline. Josh Allen is going to make other people lots of money.

Then why is KC able to keep their staff together long term?...Mind boggling actually 

[Since1981]

Bills offense not measurably better from last year. Daboll proved his worth over many years. I don’t get dorsey for HC. Makes no sense other than they know him at Carolina

[LeGOATski]

12 minutes ago, Billever76 said:

Then why is KC able to keep their staff together long term?...Mind boggling actually 

You talking about Bienemy? He hasn't been able to leave despite always being talked about as a candidate. That part might be mind boggling to some but I'm sure there are reasons.

[Livinginthepast]

15 hours ago, BruceVilanch said:

What would ya say ya do here??

" I believe you have my stapler" 

 

That movie was jam packed with awesome scenes and performances!

[GunnerBill]

48 minutes ago, Billever76 said:

Then why is KC able to keep their staff together long term?...Mind boggling actually 

 

They haven't. They lost two OCs in consecutive years - Pederson and Nagy. They lost their highly regarded QB coach last year to be the Giants OC. 

 

They also lost Chris Ballard who is regarded as an excellent talent evaluator to be GM of the Colts and Ryan Poles last year to be GM of the Bears.

 

They have kept Spags the same reason we have kept Leslie. Older guy, had a go at the HC thing earlier, was fired. Seen by most now as a DC.

 

Bienemy there seem to be some special circumstances surrounding. I have heard that he interviews poorly. I have also heard that is what out there publicly regarding his conduct in previous roles is "the tip of the ice berg." Not sure he had even been requested for any interviews this year which might mean the NFL has reach its conclusion on him. I have also been told by one KC fan with decent connections not to be shocked if he and the Chiefs mutually part company after the season. The relationship between he and Mahomes is allegedly not great.

5 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Meanwhile Wink Martindale and Mike Kafka aren’t interviewing until after their games…. 

 

I think the difference is Ken Dorsey expects to be prepping for an AFCCG on Monday. Saturday before a Sunday game is quieter than Monday before a Sunday game for a coordinator. The work is largely done at that stage.

[SoCal Deek]

We’ll be fine. It can’t take that long for Dorsey to scheme in a dozen or so long bombs. He knows them by heart. 

[RiotAct]

6 minutes ago, NUT said:

I'm a people person God dammit!

:: throws laptop across the room ::

[DCOrange]

I tend to doubt Dorsey is the guy they want even with his previous connections to their org but we’ll see. Would be a bummer to lose OC in back to back years but there’s some good offensive coaches out there and we will obviously be a very attractive destination for them. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

We’ll be fine. It can’t take that long for Dorsey to scheme in a dozen or so long bombs. He knows them by heart. 

Game plan hopefully is complete by now. Plus a lot of the game plan likely will be used from week 17. Especially on offense.

[DapperCam]

3 hours ago, Billever76 said:

Then why is KC able to keep their staff together long term?...Mind boggling actually 

They’ve really only been able to keep Bienemy on the offensive side of the ball and he seems to not be very good anyway. KC almost didn’t bring him back this year. 

[Shemp]

This is tampering approved by the NFL.

 

It's a huge distraction to the Bills.

 

That said, Dorsey is not on the field for a reason.

 

If hired by Carolina, will he be the first head coach to coach from the skybox - because he's psychotic?

Edited January 19, 2023 by Blah Blah

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Just saw Payton wants $100 million over 4 years. Wow, that’s going to change a lot.

[The Jokeman]

8 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Just saw Payton wants $100 million over 4 years. Wow, that’s going to change a lot.

and the Saints want at least two 1st Round picks to secure him. I'm not sure any GM in his right mind would even pursue that. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

6 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

and the Saints want at least two 1st Round picks to secure him. I'm not sure any GM in his right mind would even pursue that. 

The picks has been done before, probably 1 1st will do the job. 
 

But if coaches start making $25 million a year a lot of teams will struggle keeping coaches.

[biggerdaddynj]

We should have traded Dorsey for McCaffrey. 😜

[HomeskillitMoorman]

Hopefully they’ll hire him 

6 hours ago, SUNY_amherst said:

Not a big deal. It is called multi-tasking, and humans used to be good at it

He has all the time that he’s not spending on scheme, that’s probably most of it 

[Eastport bills]

Why would the Bills allow this 1st year OC to interview for an HC job this weekend. Shame on Beane and Sean. Usually these guys have to prepare for these interviews and take away from the hyper focus vital for this game. Why give Josh the slightest doubt about his commitment. If the Bills lose they should rethink the whole process. Why doesn’t the NFL make playoff teams untouchable for coaching interviews? It ruins the product.

[Warriorspikes51]

Ummmmmm no? 

[Alphadawg7]

9 hours ago, Billever76 said:

Then why is KC able to keep their staff together long term?...Mind boggling actually 

 

But are they?  Who on their staff has been sought after other than Eric Bieniemy?  And Eric has been a "top HC candidate" how many years now and never gets the job.  Is that KC keeping its staff together, or more that they haven't had any real candidates other than Bieniemy and he has failed to secure a job after interviewing for several.