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Week 13: Bills at Pats on TNF


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1 hour ago, PaattMaann said:

 

RB chip and go out into the flats, motion RB out of backfield pre snap and get him in space on one of their 260 pound slow LBs...some good options there. We will see what they do tomorrow! 

of all the games to look at having sweeney line drive block - this is it.

 

but i'd be ready to get Gillam and the TE from BGSU geared up with a few specialty plays. plays we miss from daboll. that TE from BGSU has disappeared despite being very capable of contributing in a double TE set. 

 

i'd love to see some 12 formations tomorrow

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10 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

I realize you think it's hilarious, but when you've been trying to work your way out of a financial hole caused by divorce and support, you don't really have a HUGE pile of money to be tossing around.

 

Since this is the first year I've ever really gambled on football, and given that I'm not very well off, I figured I'd start small. The results have been encouraging.

The amount itself isn't what's hilarious, so no need for the sob story. The hilarious part is that you said you've been making good money all year.

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42 minutes ago, Patrick Duffy said:

Could very well be, also could be other things I mentioned along with it. 

I feel like most of the reasons you listed would most likely be a direct cause of the elbow injury (ie. confidence; Dorsey possibly dialing back the calls/playbook)

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7 hours ago, PaattMaann said:

 

I hope to see more 4/5 wide to be honest. Spread em out and use speed. Josh is great in the pocket, he can step up/around pressure. 

 

Definitely some TE/RB chips to slow down the pass rush some, and some PA, but mostly I want to see a spread offense and Josh getting the ball out. 


Id agree, as long as guys can get separation quickly from the LOS. They’ve had trouble with this, I don’t expect it 

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1 hour ago, boyst said:

of all the games to look at having sweeney line drive block - this is it.

 

but i'd be ready to get Gillam and the TE from BGSU geared up with a few specialty plays. plays we miss from daboll. that TE from BGSU has disappeared despite being very capable of contributing in a double TE set. 

 

i'd love to see some 12 formations tomorrow


I don’t love two TEs vs a defense built to thump, personally. I’d rather spread them out so they can’t. 

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6 minutes ago, PaattMaann said:


I don’t love two TEs vs a defense built to thump, personally. I’d rather spread them out so they can’t. 

Against this thumping defense with 2 or 3 matchups to exploit we can keep their big bodies in and burn them on speed. It's a little abstract and not traditional thinking but forcing them in the box and trying to match our speed passing the ball could be big.

 

I see this as a game where the bills will get 30-40 points if the weather is good. 

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Tomorrow we get back on track, i have seen a vision of a Patriots team so humiliated so humbled that even the most hardened hearts among us will take pity on them. Time to bring the tomato plants in it's December and it is big boy time, so pull up your pants and tighten your belt things are about to get real!

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59 minutes ago, Nineforty said:

I feel like most of the reasons you listed would most likely be a direct cause of the elbow injury (ie. confidence; Dorsey possibly dialing back the calls/playbook)

 

Not necessarily....confidence could come from the bad INTs because it started before he hurt the elbow. Also as I assume you saw how Josh reacted after those INTs during the Packers and Jets game. Clearly it got to him way more than it should have the way he reacted. 

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2 hours ago, nosejob said:

Please post observations.

 

Last year's pats playoff game wasn't the game I was remembering regarding the Singletary quick passes though he and Reggie G caught consecutive check downs to the top of the screen to keep a drive alive. 

 

Other things I noticed:

 

The playbook was "Josh Allen Playoff mode" - multiple called designed qb runs. 

 

Dawkins shut down Judon, whom the announcer said had been in a lull with 4 games without a sack. The entire Oline played well and Knox was left free to run routes and catch passes. His disappearing act this season remains a mystery to me. 

 

Barnmore was coming off an injury and Duggar had a club cast on one arm. 

 

Hydes int remains a thing of beauty. 

 

McKenzie had another good game. He was running end arounds and catching passes. 

 

Basically the offense moved the ball effortlessly against the hoodies vaunted defense, using practically every skill position available. The Patriots were straight up outgunned and had no answer.

 

Let's hope we can recreate this magic tomorrow night. 

 

 

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On 11/29/2022 at 6:07 PM, newcam2012 said:

Just locked in the Pats at +4.5 points. Way too many points in what figures to be a close game. Taking the points has been the way to go. Outsiders just don't realize Josh is limited with his elbow. The Pats D is legit. Top 10 in every category. At home in a revenge game. Hopefully, Bills win by 3 or 4 points. 

I hope you get destroyed in your bet!

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14 minutes ago, BillsfaninSB said:


Cole is hanging out in RI and Isaiah is just checking in?

Beasley is officially "retired" right now, right?

 

Maybe they are looking to re-sign him for a late season/playoff push.

 

If he has stayed in shape we could actually use him, especially if OBJ goes to Dallas.

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1 minute ago, Nextmanup said:

Beasley is officially "retired" right now, right?

 

Maybe they are looking to re-sign him for a late season/playoff push.

 

If he has stayed in shape we could actually use him, especially if OBJ goes to Dallas.

he played one game for Tampa and quit again

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6 minutes ago, nucci said:

he played one game for Tampa and quit again

 

3 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Wouldn't Tampa hold his rights?  Then if released he would go through waivers?

Didn't know he played for Tampa!  That doesn't bode well; maybe he's totally shot now.

 

I'm not sure of the technicalities on his status.

 

Maybe we should look elsewhere. 

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34 minutes ago, Steptide said:

Probably reading WAY too much into this... 

 

 

 

Q: What do you call it when a dinosaur scores a touchdown?

A: A Dino-Score

 

10 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Wouldn't Tampa hold his rights?  Then if released he would go through waivers?

 

No, he was signed to Tampa's Practice Squad.  Elevated for a game and then went back to practice squad.

So he was a free agent and if he canceled his retirement he'd be a free agent again.

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5 hours ago, nosejob said:

I agree but playing Klein in 4-3 on early downs to kill the run is a must to force them to throw. We can't be giving up 4/5 yds a carry for 1st downs.

I understand the thought and it could be necessary to do that If the front 4 can’t stop the run. Miller is amazing at pass rushing but his big looping paths to the QB have led to some large runs, Lawson, Groot, and A.J. Are good at setting the edge on runs. The Bills run D has been pretty darn tough the last couple of games, while NE run games has cooled off since the first half of the season. 

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6 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Q: What do you call it when a dinosaur scores a touchdown?

A: A Dino-Score

 

 

No, he was signed to Tampa's Practice Squad.  Elevated for a game and then went back to practice squad.

So he's a free agent.

Do you have grandchildren as that's not even a funny Dad joke.🤪

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In case someone here would like to talk about Week 13 Bills at Pats

 

 

I always enjoy the Belestrator segments - they often indicate what Bill really thinks by omission.

 

For example a couple years ago, Bill highlighted a play where Josh had a man open in the endzone, but chose to keep the ball and run for a TD.  He talked about how the Bills offense was able to get guys open or use the QB to score, but the way he illustrated it and his tone of voice, it seemed kind of clear that Bill thought Josh would keep it himself and not throw it, and they could use that against him (I think we won, but it was close).

 

I don't think it's an accident that he chose to illustrate 3 successful big plays, especially a big play on 3rd and 2.  I think he views the Bills as being a bit of a "Go Big or Go Home" offense right now which will Go for the Gusto instead of taking the easy, underneath stuff and moving the ball down the field, and he plans to bait us into that and use that against us.

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2 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

There are no push over teams, but you treat every opponent like they are the Kansas City Chiefs you really do
 

 

There are several times that I've picked the Bills to win. More often than a loss. In fact, I think the Bills should win tomorrow. 

 

Have you seen the last 7 or 8 games the Bills have played? Why would you or anyone else suggest, imply, or infer an easy win or blow out by the Bills? Yet, we have many here thinking a win put is plausible. Go figure. 

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20 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

There are several times that I've picked the Bills to win. More often than a loss. In fact, I think the Bills should win tomorrow. 

 

Have you seen the last 7 or 8 games the Bills have played? Why would you or anyone else suggest, imply, or infer an easy win or blow out by the Bills? Yet, we have many here thinking a win put is plausible. Go figure. 

7 or 8 games huh? Yeah, they were awful against the Ravens, Steelers, and Chiefs

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9 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

He's definelty different. Whatever he is it's working for the Dolphins. They are one of the surprise teams in the league. Never, did I think Tua would develop into a franchise QB and play better than Allen this year. Lead the AFC east through week 12.  He's doing something right weird or not. I'm sure the Dolphin fans love him. 

L it of football left to play. They're very overrated imo and had a soft schedule 

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