A loss against the Vikings will reshape the entire AFC landscape and playoff picture

[FilthyBeast]

The immediate fallout and impact:

 

- Bills fall to 3rd place in the AFCE, Dolphins regain division lead (this of course assumes the obvious that they beat a bad Browns team at home)

- Bills fall to all the way to 6th or 7th spot in conference if Chargers win

- KC assumes sole possession of #1 seed (also assuming obvious outcome of facing a bad Jaguars team at home).

 

We'll find out a lot about this team with our without JA17, but if it's the latter I feel it will probably be a somewhat easy win for the Vikings since they will stack the box and force Keenan to beat them.

 

Just goes to show that nothing is guaranteed and it's probably a good thing all the superbowl noise has come to an abrupt halt.

 

 

Edited November 10, 2022 by FilthyBeast

[Joe Ferguson]

I hope Allen doesn't plays so he can fully heal. I'm confident about Case Keenum. Defense and special teams will just have to carry the load while Keenum plays the game manager QB and just avoid stupid mistakes.  

[NewEra]

The best two posters flexing on us

[FilthyBeast]

1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson said:

I hope Allen doesn't plays so he can fully heal. I'm confident about Case Keenum. Defense and special teams will just have to carry the load while Keenum plays the game manager QB and just avoid stupid mistakes.  

 

I'd love to believe this but I really think this team is going to look like total trash (at least on offense) without JA17 which is not only a direct indictment on Beane and the front office, but shows that he is truly a legit MVP candidate that has carried this team thus far.

[Nextmanup]

The radically changed standings with a loss are certainly true enough.

There is a razor thin margin for error here!

 

I think the D is going to have to come up huge and really control the Vikings scoring.

 

Then hope and pray that Keenum can find his way to 13-17 points or something modest, but good enough to win.

Would love to see the D limit Minnesota scoring to 10 points...just to give us a fair shot.

 

 

 

 

Edited November 10, 2022 by Nextmanup

[FilthyBeast]

1 minute ago, Nextmanup said:

The radically changed standings with a loss are certainly true enough.

There is a razor thin margin for error here!

 

I think the D is going to have to come up huge and really control the Vikings scoring.

 

Then hope and pray that Keenum can find his way to 13-17 points or something modest, but good enough to win.

Would love to see the D limit Minnesota scorings to 10 points...just to give us a fair shot.

 

 

 

 

 

Just like with the Jets, watch the Vikings offense explode and play their best game of the year against us.

 

They pretty much have already made public comments about how they still feel disrespected despite being 7-1 and see this game as a good barometer of who they really are.

 

They certainly aren't going to have any sympathy for the Bills if JA17 is out and will still treat this as playing an NFL heavyweight. Either way at this point not even sure if it's a win if Allen does suit up.

[John from Riverside]

For a week

 

There are several more?

[TheFunPolice]

It's a long season... 

 

IF we lost to go to 6-3 there are plenty of games left. I could see 12-5 in that scenario, or even 11-6 if Allen misses a few weeks. Either way, we get into the tournament. 

Edited November 10, 2022 by TheFunPolice

[Rc2catch]

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

3 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

It's a long season... 

 

IF we lost to go to 6-3 there are plenty of games left. I could see 12-5 in that scenario, or even 11-6 if Allen misses a few weeks. Either way, we get into the tournament. 

And end up on the road in KC. Again.

 

[JohnBonhamRocks]

I expect Keenum to hurdle at least one linebacker en route to a 30-40 point differential blowout. That’s whether or not Allen is good to go. 

[FilthyBeast]

1 minute ago, TheFunPolice said:

It's a long season... 

 

IF we lost to go to 6-3 there are plenty of games left. I could see 12-5 in that scenario, or even 11-6 if Allen misses a few weeks. Either way, we get into the tournament. 

 

I still see this team being in the playoffs as well barring a complete disaster, but what's it really going to matter if we are a WC team in a loaded AFC conference?

 

McD has proven he's not a true wartime playoff coach and there's a reason why he's 0-4 lifetime on the road in these games. There's also a reason the 90's Bills teams made 4 straight SB's and why KC also made 2 in recent years. Pretty sure that the Pats and Brady had home field throughout in the playoffs for all but 2 of their 9 SB trips as well, it's because playing at home matters and that's what this team needed this year for any real shot at a SB before the current window starts to close quickly.

[Augie]

30 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

I'd love to believe this but I really think this team is going to look like total trash (at least on offense) without JA17 which is not only a direct indictment on Beane and the front office, but shows that he is truly a legit MVP candidate that has carried this team thus far.

 

Yeah, we suck. He sucks. They suck. Thanks for sharing your wisdom with us. Goodness, I hope we can win another game this year. 

[LABILLBACKER]

22 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

The radically changed standings with a loss are certainly true enough.

There is a razor thin margin for error here!

 

I think the D is going to have to come up huge and really control the Vikings scoring.

 

Then hope and pray that Keenum can find his way to 13-17 points or something modest, but good enough to win.

Would love to see the D limit Minnesota scoring to 10 points...just to give us a fair shot.

 

 

 

 

Keenum did it last year twice with a crappy Browns team. He went 2-0 as a starter with a 95 qbr for those games. If he can put up similar numbers as we adjust down our offense,  the D will have to rise up.  We'll have to beat the Vikings kinda like the Jets beat us.

[FilthyBeast]

5 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Yeah, we suck. He sucks. They suck. Thanks for sharing your wisdom with us. Goodness, I hope we can win another game this year. 

 

No matter what the Beane cult worshippers believe, he whiffed big time on Saffold (and resigning Bates).

 

Also I get that Beasely is done and wanted out of Buffalo anyway, but idea that a proven failure like McKenzie and/or injury prone player like Crowder were going to magically pick up that production is short sighted at best.

 

Knox extension also very questionable at this point.

 

With all that said yes this team is still 6-2 and the top seed in the AFC for the moment, but one more loss and the luster and potential of this season starts to diminish exponentially as does the misguided belief that Beane is some kind of genius.

[Behindenemylines]

We beat the Vikes hands down. When the team leader gets hurt people step up-it’s human nature.  We will get through this 3 game joshless stretch at worse 2-1.  
 

maybe I hope eternal but This is usually how it goes.  When you have a leader like Allen people respond. 

[Stank_Nasty]

53 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

The immediate fallout and impact:

 

- Bills fall to 3rd place in the AFCE, Dolphins regain division lead (this of course assumes the obvious that they beat a bad Browns team at home)

- Bills fall to all the way to 6th or 7th spot in conference if Chargers win

- KC assumes sole possession of #1 seed (also assuming obvious outcome of facing a bad Jaguars team at home).

 

We'll find out a lot about this team with our without JA17, but if it's the latter I feel it will probably be a somewhat easy win for the Vikings since they will stack the box and force Keenan to beat them.

 

Just goes to show that nothing is guaranteed and it's probably a good thing all the superbowl noise has come to an abrupt halt.

 

 

The vikings have had the luxury of playing 3 other backup qb's this year and nothing about their wins have been easy...

 

.... this thread is much more your speed though. i knew your true nature would come back to us eventually.

[HOUSE]

Let's face it, the Bills will never take the easy road. Can’t just cruise along and win the division.

I enjoy the dependence on alcohol and weekly ulcer therapy 

. 

Edited November 11, 2022 by HOUSE

[Augie]

3 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

No matter what the Beane cult worshippers believe, he whiffed big time on Saffold (and resigning Bates).

 

Also I get that Beasely is done and wanted out of Buffalo anyway, but idea that a proven failure like McKenzie and/or injury prone player like Crowder were going to magically pick up that production is short sighted at best.

 

Knox extension also very questionable at this point.

 

With all that said yes this team is still 6-2 and the top seed in the AFC for the moment, but one more loss and the luster and potential of this season starts to diminish exponentially as does the misguided belief that Beane is some kind of genius.

 

I’m not deifying him as a GM, but it’s hard to ignore the fact that we are a leading contender for SB champs. Why does it have to be perfect or it sucks? We are far better than most, and I’m not looking for things to whine about. By your standards, you should probably be fired. 

[Bimmer323i]

I hope I’m wrong but from what I’ve seen of Keenum in a Bills uniform I have 0 faith in him to win us a game while 17 is healing up….

[WotAGuy]

Didn’t crayonz or 4merper4mer develop a proof that NFC losses help the Bills playoff chances?  Pretty sure they need this loss. 

Edited November 11, 2022 by WotAGuy

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

49 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

The radically changed standings with a loss are certainly true enough.

There is a razor thin margin for error here!

 

I think the D is going to have to come up huge and really control the Vikings scoring.

 

Then hope and pray that Keenum can find his way to 13-17 points or something modest, but good enough to win.

Would love to see the D limit Minnesota scoring to 10 points...just to give us a fair shot.

 

 

 

 

Agreed. Buffalo’s defense on average has allowed 14.8 ppg season total and 19 ppg for the last 3 games. I’m pretty confident Keenum/Diggs and company can produce 2 TDs and a FG, but the sweet spot would be 21 points. We will see how good of a coordinator Dorsey really is and whether he can manufacture a few TDs minus Allen. I expect them to throw in some Jet sweeps/reverses and rely heavily on running/field position game. A defensive or special teams TD would be absolutely huge in determining the outcome. OP got some flack, but he’s right that this is a very important AFC game. 

Edited November 11, 2022 by ChronicAndKnuckles

[AuntieEm]

1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson said:

I hope Allen doesn't plays so he can fully heal. I'm confident about Case Keenum. Defense and special teams will just have to carry the load while Keenum plays the game manager QB and just avoid stupid mistakes.  

   

 

      I hope if they hold Allen out that Keenum just has a great game and the rest of the offense wakes up and starts earning their place on the team.  None of them have earned the right to coast.  

[ColoradoBills]

18 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

No matter what the Beane cult worshippers believe

 

LOL, the only reason I don't put you on "ignore" is your amusing hot takes!

 

Plus, when I read your profile name, it reminds me of the Cary Grant movie "Father Goose".

[loveorhatembillsfan4life]

I think our ceiling with Case is probably 21-24 points.

 

We need a big effort from the D this week. 

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said:

The immediate fallout and impact:

 

- Bills fall to 3rd place in the AFCE, Dolphins regain division lead (this of course assumes the obvious that they beat a bad Browns team at home)

- Bills fall to all the way to 6th or 7th spot in conference if Chargers win

- KC assumes sole possession of #1 seed (also assuming obvious outcome of facing a bad Jaguars team at home).

 

We'll find out a lot about this team with our without JA17, but if it's the latter I feel it will probably be a somewhat easy win for the Vikings since they will stack the box and force Keenan to beat them.

 

Just goes to show that nothing is guaranteed and it's probably a good thing all the superbowl noise has come to an abrupt halt.

 

 

I'm curious if you will refer to next week's Bills game as facing "a bad Browns team at home" or if that tune will change...

[julian]

It get the sense certain posters just like to be “that guy”, it’s seems easy to get plenty of reaction being “that guy”, and takes more effort and thought to generate discussion without being “that guy”

 

entertaining at times.

[chongli]

4 minutes ago, julian said:

It get the sense certain posters just like to be “that guy”, it’s seems easy to get plenty of reaction being “that guy”, and takes more effort and thought to generate discussion without being “that guy”

 

entertaining at times.

 

True, but I call if more trollish.

[Kaenon]

2 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

The radically changed standings with a loss are certainly true enough.

There is a razor thin margin for error here!

 

I think the D is going to have to come up huge and really control the Vikings scoring.

 

Then hope and pray that Keenum can find his way to 13-17 points or something modest, but good enough to win.

Would love to see the D limit Minnesota scoring to 10 points...just to give us a fair shot.

 

 

 

 

They struggled mightily against the Commanders.

 

We'll have no troubles with the Vikings.

Unless of course, Ragnar Lothbrok decides to show up and play - then watch out!

[SinceThe70s]

2 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

The immediate fallout and impact:

 

- Bills fall to 3rd place in the AFCE, Dolphins regain division lead (this of course assumes the obvious that they beat a bad Browns team at home)

- Bills fall to all the way to 6th or 7th spot in conference if Chargers win

- KC assumes sole possession of #1 seed (also assuming obvious outcome of facing a bad Jaguars team at home).

 

We'll find out a lot about this team with our without JA17, but if it's the latter I feel it will probably be a somewhat easy win for the Vikings since they will stack the box and force Keenan to beat them.

 

Just goes to show that nothing is guaranteed and it's probably a good thing all the superbowl noise has come to an abrupt halt.

 

 

 

Why is that a good thing? Does it make you feel better?  Or do you honestly think that superbowl talk on message boards or in the media are anything more than hot air from folks who have no impact on who ultimately wins the superbowl?

[Ya Digg?]

2 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

The immediate fallout and impact:

 

- Bills fall to 3rd place in the AFCE, Dolphins regain division lead (this of course assumes the obvious that they beat a bad Browns team at home)

- Bills fall to all the way to 6th or 7th spot in conference if Chargers win

- KC assumes sole possession of #1 seed (also assuming obvious outcome of facing a bad Jaguars team at home).

 

We'll find out a lot about this team with our without JA17, but if it's the latter I feel it will probably be a somewhat easy win for the Vikings since they will stack the box and force Keenan to beat them.

 

Just goes to show that nothing is guaranteed and it's probably a good thing all the superbowl noise has come to an abrupt halt.

 

 

Honest question-outside of the attention that you obviously crave, why is every thread soaked in negativity? If they win this week will there be another one of these absurd threads talking about losing to the Browns? Or will you for once actually start a positive thread (although that won’t get you the traffic you clearly want).

 

what if, and hear me out on this one, the lowly, clearly terrible Bills who will be lucky enough to make the playoffs go on a run (which they have done for the past couple of years) and finish with the one seed with a record of 14-3 or 13-4? Or will the “super bowl noise” be too much to handle?

[loyal2dagame]

3 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

The immediate fallout and impact:

 

- Bills fall to 3rd place in the AFCE, Dolphins regain division lead (this of course assumes the obvious that they beat a bad Browns team at home)

- Bills fall to all the way to 6th or 7th spot in conference if Chargers win

- KC assumes sole possession of #1 seed (also assuming obvious outcome of facing a bad Jaguars team at home).

 

We'll find out a lot about this team with our without JA17, but if it's the latter I feel it will probably be a somewhat easy win for the Vikings since they will stack the box and force Keenan to beat them.

 

Just goes to show that nothing is guaranteed and it's probably a good thing all the superbowl noise has come to an abrupt halt.

 

 

 

non conference game. would suck to lose, but not the end all be all. The Bills will still win the division.  

[Punching Bag]

3 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

Just goes to show that nothing is guaranteed and it's probably a good thing all the superbowl noise has come to an abrupt halt.

 

 

Yes for your Phish especially.

[CoudyBills]

3 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

The immediate fallout and impact:

 

- Bills fall to 3rd place in the AFCE, Dolphins regain division lead (this of course assumes the obvious that they beat a bad Browns team at home)

- Bills fall to all the way to 6th or 7th spot in conference if Chargers win

- KC assumes sole possession of #1 seed (also assuming obvious outcome of facing a bad Jaguars team at home).

 

We'll find out a lot about this team with our without JA17, but if it's the latter I feel it will probably be a somewhat easy win for the Vikings since they will stack the box and force Keenan to beat them.

 

Just goes to show that nothing is guaranteed and it's probably a good thing all the superbowl noise has come to an abrupt halt.

 

 

Did you actually get a hard-on while typing this?

[BillsShredder83]

Breaking news, if buffalo loses, and everyone else wins, at mid season, we'll drop in standings.

 

Brilliant 👏 I hate this place right now lol time to finish having Eichel pi** in my cheerios. My Hornets are somehow about as healthy as Buff, and about to lose 7 in a row

 

Yeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy sports

[beerme1]

The thing is, we're not losing.

[AuntieEm]

2 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

LOL, the only reason I don't put you on "ignore" is your amusing hot takes!

 

Plus, when I read your profile name, it reminds me of the Cary Grant movie "Father Goose".

 

   Good movie doubt many here have seen it.  That's the one he's stranded on a desert island with nuns and some orphans in pacific during ww2?

 

 

 

Edited November 11, 2022 by AuntieEm

[Beast]

This thread appears to be a trolls wet dream.

[Nextmanup]

Just now, Beast said:

This thread appears to be a trolls wet dream.

Discussing bad news from a Bills perspective only makes you a troll if you enjoy it and want the Bills to lose.

 

Actually, this thread is a Kool Aid drinkers excuse to B word, moan, and spew negativity all over the place.

 

[Beast]

1 minute ago, Nextmanup said:

Discussing bad news from a Bills perspective only makes you a troll if you enjoy it and want the Bills to lose.

 

Actually, this thread is a Kool Aid drinkers excuse to B word, moan, and spew negativity all over the place.

 

LOL, yeah, that’s it.