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20 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Oh come on. I call it like I see it unlike many here who consistently convince themselves the Bills are great in every aspect…I’be consistently said Allen is easily a top 3 QB and him not even top 10 in the top 100 is a complete joke. 
 

They should easily win the division and have a SB caliber roster no question, but this season is about winning the Super bowl and they have some holes on the roster that many here have questioned why they didn’t do more. 

 

You said it yourself, a Super Bowl caliber roster.  It seems you feel they should be great at every positional unit.  

If you put more money in one place, another place won't have as much.  

 

If the Bills put a lot more into WR depth, you would complain about another unit not being as strong.  

 

You feel the only way to beat the Chiefs is you have to win a shoot out.  But both the Bengals and Bucs beat them with defense in the AFCCG and Super Bowl.  

 

Any time you bring up the Bills great roster, you only talk about Allen.  You've said multiple times that "Allen carries this whole team" so how are they a Super Bowl roster like you said they are?  You don't want to give credit to Beane building a Super Bowl roster, you want to focus on what you think he didn't do.  

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2 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

This is a horrible take. Freddy was the best running back in the NFL during the 2011 season (at least). Marshawn asked to be traded because he knew FJ was better.

This is not true.  MJD had 1600 yards rushing and nearly 2000 yards from scrimmage that year .  Ray Rice had over 1300 rushing and over 2000 yards from scrimmage.  There were several RBs that were better than Fred Jackson in 2011.    

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2 minutes ago, eball said:

 

Again with the hyperbole.  He had a rough week.  One bad draft pick he got something for three years later, another bad draft pick he had to cut for reasons out of his control, and a 1-year FA signing that didn't pan out.

 

Why do some insist upon acting as though this is a disaster?

 

Because they're drama queens to be quite honest.

Just now, Royale with Cheese said:

 

For sure.  Our biggest defensive need was an edge rusher who can finish.  We didn't do anything there about it.

 

Those Settle, Jones, Crowder, Ques, Saffold signings and the rest of his draft picks sucked too.

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10 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

This is a horrible take. Freddy was the best running back in the NFL during the 2011 season (at least). Marshawn asked to be traded because he knew FJ was better.

Marshawn asked to be traded because the Bills drafted Spiller in the 1st round and cut his playing time.  

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2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

If the Bills put a lot more into WR depth, you would complain about another unit not being as strong.  

 

 

I would like to think I have at least presented my alternative world as to what I might have done. One fewer well paid DT and that contract going on offense. Three well paid vet DTs plus running with Ankou or Byant (both of whom I think can play as backend of the roster NFL players) as a cheaper 4th option would have been the sacrifice I'd have made. The Bills made a different decision, I understand their thinking, but I think it is fair to say "not sure that's what I'd have done, let's see how it plays out." 

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10 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

They lost Daboll and Sanders too. May not be enough to worry but certainly enough to be concerned. 

I think losing Daboll might be a net positive in the long run.  While I can appreciate what he did for the team he would have streaks of really bizarre feeling playcalls.  I'll miss all the trick plays though.  

 

Sanders to me is a shrug.  He had a couple good games but basically disappeared. 

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25 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Oh come on. I call it like I see it unlike many here who consistently convince themselves the Bills are great in every aspect…I’be consistently said Allen is easily a top 3 QB and him not even top 10 in the top 100 is a complete joke. 
 

They should easily win the division and have a SB caliber roster no question, but this season is about winning the Super bowl and they have some holes on the roster that many here have questioned why they didn’t do more. 

Why.., Do you think all starting level player league wide want to play for the Bills? Its a two way street, 

 

there is a difference between saying i wish we had better back ups, or starters here and there, and the incessant non stop harping about it, all teams have primarily jags as backups, why don’t you grasp this, its not solely a Bills issue, its league wide.

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31 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

No, my qualm is that they’ve clearly prioritized defense and defensive depth over offense…. obviously every team has a drop from starters to back ups… there is a steep drop for the Bills at certain offensive positions. (WR, TE, Tackle)

Its been our defense that has ended our last three seasons, and ALL teams have the same issues at certain positions on their offenses, its a given every single season for every single team, 

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2 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

So everyone’s depth is the same on every team? No team has better depth than anyone else?

If “what abouts and what ifs” were gold you’d be a very wealthy person. 
The Bills “depth” hung quite well with other teams in the preseason, commentators and media folks all over the league talked about how the Bills cuts would be snapped up fast. Let the season play out, I doubt it’ll be perfect, but it’s going to be a fun ride. Enjoy it!

 Go Bills!!

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1 minute ago, Beast said:

So, it appears Hodgins didn't make it, or am I wrong?

 

Someone just tweeted the Bills are hoping to stash him on the practice squad.  With his injury history, I think that's doable.  I really would hate to lose him after a great off-season.  I can see where injury concerns would make them hesitate to let Crowder go in his place. 

 

Besides the dead cap hit for Howard, I agree with all the moves they've made.

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3 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

The Giants we're going to do that with Barkley.

 

Yeah but the difference might by Barkley likely wouldn't sign with Giants for PS.  IMO his plan is Buffalo or no where unless the Bills didn't place him o n their PS.  If the Giants were going to sign him to their 53, then different story. 

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20 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

This is a horrible take. Freddy was the best running back in the NFL during the 2011 season (at least). Marshawn asked to be traded because he knew FJ was better.

Fred played 10 games in 2011 and he wasn't better than LT, AP, MJD, Shady...

 

He was a good Bill on mediocre Bills teams.

 

Marshawn became unmotivated in Buffalo due to off field issues and on field mismanagement. Marshawn is heading to Hall of Fame, Fred might get his name on a wall in the new stadium

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Cutdown day:

Where a bunch of fans freak out over who the Bills cut and -- assuming that every GM in the league loves our fringe roster guys as much as we Bills fans do -- swear those players will get scooped up immediately by other teams.....only for 99% of them to easily make it through to the practice squad.

Fun times.

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3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I would like to think I have at least presented my alternative world as to what I might have done. One fewer well paid DT and that contract going on offense. Three well paid vet DTs plus running with Ankou or Byant (both of whom I think can play as backend of the roster NFL players) as a cheaper 4th option would have been the sacrifice I'd have made. The Bills made a different decision, I understand their thinking, but I think it is fair to say "not sure that's what I'd have done, let's see how it plays out." 

 

I absolutely see your point. I wanted more on the offensive side of the ball (particularly along the Oline) as well. However, I wanted that defensive line fixed even more. One of the Bills' greatest weaknesses last year was their run defense. They needed a drastic overhaul to fix that and improve the pass rush at the same time. Everyone likes to point out the Pittsburgh and Jax games as evidence of offensive failure last year. They lost those games because they didn't play well, not because they needed more talent. I look at the losses to Tennessee, Indianapolis, and the first NE game where they got run over. Not because they didn't play well, but because they needed more talent.

 

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1 minute ago, ScottLaw said:

Nah disagree. As an example, The Bills defensive depth is MUCH better than their offensive depth. Why do you think that is?

DUH!!! Its because our defense has ended our last couple seasons, its not the offense, that’s why the defense has continued to be propped up, its pretty darn obvious., as an aside; last early seasons O line woes were primarily poor use of available personnel and our O line coaches inability to recognize it.

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1 minute ago, Doc said:

 

So you figure Barkley will be cut and PS'd once they add a punter.  Andre Smith is going to be suspended.  So who else gets cut or put on a list?

 

Looks about right to me.  

 

Barkley to PS.  Smith suspended.  McCloud or Lewis cut once we sign a punter, and then the other is cut when Tre White comes back.  Van Roten likely cut once Boettger comes back.  

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