intimidatortj Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Doesn't appear so. Despite everyone insisting that Beane would sign a vet Free Agent before the draft. It is slightly surprising. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 I think he is waiting till cuts to bring a vet in... and if they dont draft a CB in round 2 itcwould not surprise me if they signed Rhodes or Haden after the draft just as insurance and competition 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, Kmart128 said: I think he is waiting till cuts to bring a vet in... and if they dont draft a CB in round 2 itcwould not surprise me if they signed Rhodes or Haden after the draft just as insurance and competition For some sneaky reason I think there's a gentleman's deal with Haden that will happen after the draft/cuts 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 I think he'll wait until after the draft. If we end up taking a cb at #25, that might change the tier of free agents we go after. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 At this point, the FAs don’t want to sign either. After the draft, teams who missed out will be in more need 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 After. Even if he drafts a corner early, he’s gonna sign a vet to compete and to alleviate pressure on the rookie. Watch. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Vets are holding out for more money, they will get signed for whatever is left after the draft in the few locations that didn't pick up rookies to fill those spots. I still think there is a chance we trade for Bradberry during the draft, but not at his full salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Of course there’s a chance! Right now, Beane is going to see if they can handle it in this draft. But you never know how the draft is going to go….They might not meet their CB needs and they know they can sign a vet there if things fall through…. Having said that, I think it is a tiny chance. I think CB is very deep this draft and they are pretty much certain that they will fill the tank at corner with better prospects than Wallace. Then, of course, we have to coach them way up starting shortly after the draft. Positions to hit: CBs, WR, RB, OG, DT, LB and P…. I’d love three CBs that can play outside but I doubt I get my wish. Call me crazy but my draft crush for the Bills is Jordan Davis. And my wouldn’t surprise me at one pick is Ojabo…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake_My_Head Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 44 minutes ago, intimidatortj said: Doesn't appear so. Despite everyone insisting that Beane would sign a vet Free Agent before the draft. It is slightly surprising. The available vets are probably wating/watching how the draft goes. If the Bills draft a CB in round 1, I can see a FA vet saying "@$!*" and having more intrerest in teams with legit starting opportunities. Things should heat up again next week after every team know what their roster holes are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 37 minutes ago, Kmart128 said: I think he is waiting till cuts to bring a vet in... and if they dont draft a CB in round 2 itcwould not surprise me if they signed Rhodes or Haden after the draft just as insurance and competition That makes some sense. It may be that the contract cost will drop enough to make it worth the wait. Maybe a one year prove it deal is in the cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 1 hour ago, intimidatortj said: Doesn't appear so. Despite everyone insisting that Beane would sign a vet Free Agent before the draft. It is slightly surprising. It's different this year because there are five to seven very good CBs out there in free agency, slow-marinating in the oven of temporary unemployment. So many that there's no rush whatsoever to sign one. So many that their salaries go down just a bit every day they aren't signed. So many that even if one or two are suddenly taken there will still be enough out there that there's no rush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverboat Ritchie Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 8 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: It's different this year because there are five to seven very good CBs out there in free agency, slow-marinating in the oven of temporary unemployment. So many that there's no rush whatsoever to sign one. So many that their salaries go down just a bit every day they aren't signed. So many that even if one or two are suddenly taken there will still be enough out there that there's no rush. “Slow marinating in the oven of unemployment “…pretty good. Go Bills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said: For some sneaky reason I think there's a gentleman's deal with Haden that will happen after the draft/cuts I agree. I still think there is a good chance he goes CB in round 1. IF there is a run on CBs, Then I see an OL or WR in the guest round and Haden signs next week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Well there's a good chance that our 1st round pick will be a CB or OL, but I agree that he'll want to sign a capable vet sooner rather than later. The cupboard is bare if Trae isn't ready and I don't want him to be rushed and risk a setback. 2 studs at outside CB with an improved rush would make this D a LOT better. They play great against bad QB's, but that won't help us in the playoffs -- especially in the AFC. Now if they'd only bring back the bump and run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 3 hours ago, intimidatortj said: Doesn't appear so. Despite everyone insisting that Beane would sign a vet Free Agent before the draft. It is slightly surprising. No need to when there’s a bunch of them still out there. See how the draft falls then they can look at the free agents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 4 hours ago, intimidatortj said: Doesn't appear so. Despite everyone insisting that Beane would sign a vet Free Agent before the draft. It is slightly surprising. I really thought he would have by now. Beane always surprises us so you never know. It may be a smart move to wait for the draft to fill the cb position. We have alot of cap space tied up in our secondary. Having a high quality starter on a rookie contract for five years could help ease our cap situation. I can't wait for the draft. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 1 hour ago, longtimebillsfan said: I really thought he would have by now. Beane always surprises us so you never know. It may be a smart move to wait for the draft to fill the cb position. We have alot of cap space tied up in our secondary. Having a high quality starter on a rookie contract for five years could help ease our cap situation. I can't wait for the draft. Exactly this. I feel this was always the plan and his not addressing the CB position in any way confirms it in my mind. The vets that are left over are not the type you should feel comfortable rolling with by themselves. They're all 30 or older, injury prone, haven't started a full season in some time, and/or have declined in play. They're the type you rotate in and that provide depth. I think we'll sign someone when guys get desperate before camp. But it will be in conjunction with someone we draft in Round 1 or Round 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 1 hour ago, longtimebillsfan said: I really thought he would have by now. Beane always surprises us so you never know. It may be a smart move to wait for the draft to fill the cb position. We have alot of cap space tied up in our secondary. Having a high quality starter on a rookie contract for five years could help ease our cap situation. I can't wait for the draft. He said it himself, he wants cap relief with filling out the roster with rookie contracts. We just don’t have the bucks for a FA at this time, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Beane prioritized DE in the draft last year after Mahomes dropped back, completed a crossword puzzle, did his taxes, and then threw for over 300 yards in the AFC Championship game. A few months ago he watched Chiefs WR's have massive YAC in the divisional game. Not re-signing Levi Wallace tells me they want to get faster and more athletic at the CB position. I think we draft a corner and safety the first two rounds. Just not sure about the order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Seriously doubt it to you’re question. Depending upon when we draft a CB, we’ll probably make some offers on one of the older guys, and Beane finds a way to maneuver money around for a vet minimum prove it rental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Why sign one now when there will be more vets likely available after the draft 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 I think the Bills are very confident in the people they have, and if there is an addition, it will be through a draft pick or two. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 slim and none will draft 1 and after draft sign 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 (edited) Why would you do it before the draft? The draft can't get here soon enough... Edited April 27, 2022 by TBBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 8 hours ago, intimidatortj said: Doesn't appear so. Despite everyone insisting that Beane would sign a vet Free Agent before the draft. It is slightly surprising. I agree. I thought he would have. But there is still time and options after the draft. It is odd. There just hasn’t been the league-wide signing surge just prior to the draft like in years past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Why sign one now when there will be more vets likely available after the draft Some will surely be released at cut downs, but are you thinking some will come available before then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Beane once said something to the effect that he likes to address all position needs before the draft making it easier to do BPA during the draft. So I really thought he'd sign a CB by now. But Beane knows that, generally speaking, the longer he waits, the lower the price for a FA. The risk of waiting is, of course, that the FA you want will come off the market. I think - maybe - Beane has enough confidence in our current CB depth that he's willing to take that risk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 10 hours ago, billybrew1 said: Of course there’s a chance! Right now, Beane is going to see if they can handle it in this draft. But you never know how the draft is going to go….They might not meet their CB needs and they know they can sign a vet there if things fall through…. Having said that, I think it is a tiny chance. I think CB is very deep this draft and they are pretty much certain that they will fill the tank at corner with better prospects than Wallace. Then, of course, we have to coach them way up starting shortly after the draft. Positions to hit: CBs, WR, RB, OG, DT, LB and P…. I’d love three CBs that can play outside but I doubt I get my wish. Call me crazy but my draft crush for the Bills is Jordan Davis. And my wouldn’t surprise me at one pick is Ojabo…. You are correct about there being quite a few good CB's in the draft. There are really only 6 or 7 that grade out to be high end prospects. I think Beane will want one of these guys because of White's injury. If White was not coming off the injury, several of the second tier guys would suffice and be an upgrade over Wallace. If White misses some time or has lagging performance, Beane will want a guy that can handle the CB1 role. CB is the most obvious glaring hole in the starting roster. Beane will not leave the draft without addressing it. Because of his good work in free agency, Beane has the flexibility to draft the best prospects in almost every position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 10 hours ago, billybrew1 said: Of course there’s a chance! Right now, Beane is going to see if they can handle it in this draft. But you never know how the draft is going to go….They might not meet their CB needs and they know they can sign a vet there if things fall through…. Having said that, I think it is a tiny chance. I think CB is very deep this draft and they are pretty much certain that they will fill the tank at corner with better prospects than Wallace. Then, of course, we have to coach them way up starting shortly after the draft. Positions to hit: CBs, WR, RB, OG, DT, LB and P…. I’d love three CBs that can play outside but I doubt I get my wish. Call me crazy but my draft crush for the Bills is Jordan Davis. And my wouldn’t surprise me at one pick is Ojabo…. After signing seversl free agent defensive tackles,you think Bills should invest a first round pick in another DT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 There's always a chance that Beane will pull something out of his hat but i think he's more focused on the draft at this point we may see something after but i don't think so before . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHAN Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 It wouldn't shock me if Beane went CB in rounds 1 and 2 after last year. Maybe one that has traits that would work for safety too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 I saw Joe Haden at the Buffalo airport. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 If you were a vet CB would you sign before the draft? Not unless you were offered a huge deal, you wouldn't. Guys don't get paid at this time of year anyway so might as well wait and see what opens up for you after the draft. Beane might want to use his leverage of not needing to fill a bunch of spots on the 53 with rookies, to make a draft-day trade as well. He might surprise us, no? 4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I saw Joe Haden at the Buffalo airport. with George Seifert? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterLifer Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: It's different this year because there are five to seven very good CBs out there in free agency, slow-marinating in the oven of temporary unemployment. Are there five to seven very good CBs out there, or five to seven known CB names out there? Honest question as I don't study anything but the Bills. Edited April 27, 2022 by RochesterLifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 27 minutes ago, RochesterLifer said: Are there five to seven very good CBs out there, or five to seven known CB names out there? Honest question as I don't study anything but the Bills. I think there are 4 high tier guys. Then like 3-4 right under. Then the rest. I think they should aim for one of the top 4. Gardner, Stingley, McDuffie, Booth, you could include Hill if you project him at corner. Then the next tier is like Elam, Emerson, Woolen etc etc. Again all my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 I would be supremely surprised if the Bills didn't sign a vet corner or two before training camp. And I would not be surprised by a high draft pick as well. But there's no reason to sign one right now. Might as well wait till after the draft to see how the landscape changes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, MJS said: I would be supremely surprised if the Bills didn't sign a vet corner or two before training camp. And I would not be surprised by a high draft pick as well. But there's no reason to sign one right now. Might as well wait till after the draft to see how the landscape changes. Here in the NYC area many of the "experts" think the Giants will take Ahmad "Sauce" Gardner at either #5 or #7. If they do I wonder if that increases the chances they trade James Bradberry. They have cap concerns and the Bills were rumored to be one of the teams who would be interested in him. Maybe Beane and Schoen can work out a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 12 hours ago, ndirish1978 said: Vets are holding out for more money, they will get signed for whatever is left after the draft in the few locations that didn't pick up rookies to fill those spots. I still think there is a chance we trade for Bradberry during the draft, but not at his full salary. If Daboll/Schoen like Edmunds, I feel like a trade involving a swap of picks and Edmunds for Bradberry just makes so much sense. They have picks 7 and 36... either of which could be spots we'd very much like to have. Unless Beane has some voodoo magic to re-sign Edmunds and Knox, it looks to everyone that Edmunds may be on a 1 year deal and then he either walks because we don't care to sign him or can't afford to sign him. Why not send him to the Giants, if they view him as a centerpiece of that Defense.. They lock him up long term and we get a 1 year rental out of Bradberry to bolster the secondary and provide insurance for Tre White taking time to come back full strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 I think we are pretty much done in FA other than a stopgap veteran DB sometime between post draft and training camp. If for some reason Edmunds is used in a trade tomorrow then LB also becomes a FA need especially since more cap room would become immediately available. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 57 minutes ago, Greg S said: Here in the NYC area many of the "experts" think the Giants will take Ahmad "Sauce" Gardner at either #5 or #7. If they do I wonder if that increases the chances they trade James Bradberry. They have cap concerns and the Bills were rumored to be one of the teams who would be interested in him. Maybe Beane and Schoen can work out a deal. I think Bradberry is out pretty much no matter what. I think he will struggle in that press man scheme. So he is miscast and expensive. He is the perfect pickup for us because he's a seasoned vet who is in his prime and can help us pursue a Super Bowl. I think a Bradberry move could go down on day 2 if the Bills miss out on all the top corners. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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