Tyreek seeking a trade [Now: Traded to the Dolphins]

[Jay_Fixit]

10 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Jones has missed half the season two years in a row.  He can’t be counted on.  
 

I would take him here but he would be behind Davis IMO.

Did you move to Orchard Park?

[Royale with Cheese]

Just now, Jay_Fixit said:

Did you move to Orchard Park?

 

This is one of those yes or no questions huh?

[zow2]

Unpopular take- but i don't get why some Bills fans feel the need to flood every national media tweet about Tyreek and message boards about what a "trash" QB Tua is ....and how great Josh Allen and the Bills are.  We must have a lot of children as Bills fans.  I don't know,... in the words of Sean McDermott it's best to stay "humble and hungry" if you know what i mean.  I wish some of these fans would stay out of it and not make the rest of the NFL fans hate the obnoxious Bills fans.

The fact is, we haven't won anything yet.

 

It's a good move for Miami, they got a great player.  Who knows how it will turn out?  Even if Tua fails, the Dolphins are now a hotspot destination for the next big name QB that wants a change next spring..  They have a plug n play offense.  If the Ravens don't lock in Lamar Jackson, I could see him landing in Miami someday. 

[Your Brown Eye]

2 minutes ago, zow2 said:

Unpopular take- but i don't get why some Bills fans feel the need to flood every national media tweet about Tyreek and message boards about what a "trash" QB Tua is ....and how great Josh Allen and the Bills are.  We must have a lot of children as Bills fans.  I don't know,... in the words of Sean McDermott it's best to stay "humble and hungry" if you know what i mean.  I wish some of these fans would stay out of it and not make the rest of the NFL fans hate the obnoxious Bills fans.

The fact is, we haven't won anything yet.

 

 

 

They are likely trying to compensate for lacking something

[SCBills]

4 minutes ago, zow2 said:

Unpopular take- but i don't get why some Bills fans feel the need to flood every national media tweet about Tyreek and message boards about what a "trash" QB Tua is ....and how great Josh Allen and the Bills are.  We must have a lot of children as Bills fans.  I don't know,... in the words of Sean McDermott it's best to stay "humble and hungry" if you know what i mean.  I wish some of these fans would stay out of it and not make the rest of the NFL fans hate the obnoxious Bills fans.

The fact is, we haven't won anything yet.

 

It's a good move for Miami, they got a great player.  Who knows how it will turn out?  Even if Tua fails, the Dolphins are now a hotspot destination for the next big name QB that wants a change next spring..  They have a plug n play offense.  If the Ravens don't lock in Lamar Jackson, I could see him landing in Miami someday. 

 

Are you new to Twitter?

 

Also, Twitter isn't real life.  I'm constantly reminded of this when I talk about something "extremely online" to a bunch of normal, everyday people and they have no clue what I'm talking about. 

[FilthyBeast]

20 hours ago, TBBills said:

Man some posters here are afraid of the Dolphins on a daily basis I hope @klos63 @FilthyBeast are doing OK.

They probably thinking the Dolphins gonna win the AFC East.

 

All depends on what happens with Tua, he seemed to play well last year down the stretch but certainly not quite elite. If he takes another step this year obviously the Dolphins are a threat not only to win the division, but compete for a SB.

 

My biggest concern is what this new look fish offense is going to look like under McDaniel. If he's truly some sort of 'savant' he'll find a way to manufacture a potent dink and dunk, YAC type of offense that utilizes Waddle and Hill to their maximum potential. Because IMO both Waddle/Hill better than Samuel who was a major weapon for the 49er's doing this type of stuff.

 

Either way CB is still a glaring hole on the Bills roster right now and needs to be addressed other than just draft picks. Not thrilled with the idea of Edmunds covering these type of WR's either.

Edited March 24, 2022 by FilthyBeast

[The Wiz]

[Strethor]

38 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

 

It's intresting because McDaniel will find creative ways to use Tyreek - however the signing will be looked at as a massive failure ala LaVeon Bell and similar.. He will fall off + much worse signal caller. $$ IS KING THO

[Jay_Fixit]

2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

This is one of those yes or no questions huh?

I mean you said “here” like you lived there so I was curious as I know you lived in Atlanta which is nowhere near where “here” would have been. 
 

And get a pedicure my god.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

😯 

The Kansas City Chiefs traded six-time Pro Bowl wide receiver Tyreek Hill to the Miami Dolphins for five draft picks: a 2022 first-round pick (No. 29), second-round pick (No. 50) and fourth-round pick, plus fourth- and sixth-round picks in the 2023 draft on Wednesday.

 

Like that will make Tua be a better QB.  

Or will Teddy be QB1?

 

[FilthyBeast]

3 hours ago, zow2 said:

Unpopular take- but i don't get why some Bills fans feel the need to flood every national media tweet about Tyreek and message boards about what a "trash" QB Tua is ....and how great Josh Allen and the Bills are.  We must have a lot of children as Bills fans.  I don't know,... in the words of Sean McDermott it's best to stay "humble and hungry" if you know what i mean.  I wish some of these fans would stay out of it and not make the rest of the NFL fans hate the obnoxious Bills fans.

The fact is, we haven't won anything yet.

 

It's a good move for Miami, they got a great player.  Who knows how it will turn out?  Even if Tua fails, the Dolphins are now a hotspot destination for the next big name QB that wants a change next spring..  They have a plug n play offense.  If the Ravens don't lock in Lamar Jackson, I could see him landing in Miami someday. 

 

Tua's not trash at all, he's improved steadily and the Dolphins have something like a 13-7 record when in games he's started.

 

Not saying he's on a JA17 trajectory but it's foolish for Bills and other teams fans to write guys like him and Mac Jones off.

 

Also remember with a guy like Hill all it takes is a timely 5 yard pass that can turn into an 80 yard TD and our defense has always been exposed by those type of plays under McD/Frazier and last time I checked we still have Edmunds on this roster which isn't a good thing in regards to this.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

3 hours ago, dneveu said:

I like the move for Miami.  A lot of draft picks used on WRs, but they basically got Waddle in a very strong WR draft and traded for a probowler.  

 

They added running backs this year as well in edmonds and mostert, but I'm not sure that was ever really the problem with their run game.  Adding armstead and williams will help more there than anything else.  

 

The thing about them is though - they added nothing to the defense.  Which... much like buffalo was very much propped up by playing bad offenses/QBs.  The difference is buffalo was propped up to #1, and Miami finished 15th in yards.  Buffalo also wasn't happy with the performance of their defensive line and made massive changes to the unit.  Miami is content to roll with Phillips and Ogbah as the primary pass rushers in a blitz happy system.  Seems to work when they play the bad teams of their schedule (which were also mostly bunched into the end of the 2021 season).  

They might have the worst linebackers in the league…and they are still terrible at C/RG/RT on the offensive side. They’ve got Byron jones at cb still who hasn’t been good for a few years now and Xavien Howard coming off a very down season.  And now they don’t have any picks this year until the third round. Trade makes no sense to me they have tons of holes.  People are talkin like all they need is a qb and they can easily pick one up next year but that’s far from the case imo.

[wjag]

Here's a wild thought.  Did the Jets false flag Miami into spending too much?  I was listening to Rich Eisen today talk about how the Jets might not have been ready for Hill. 

 

My take:

 

But their very presence with their two high draft picks forced Miami to bid higher than they wanted.  I found it curious that the Jets did not throw in a one when they had the luxury of doing so.  I know, I know the silly draft pick equivalency chart says the Phins with their late pick and the Jets with their two 2s were "equivalent" value.  To me, if the Jets were serious about getting him, they would have parlayed one of their ones.  But the fact that they had two might have forced Miami to pay more in draft picks.

Edited March 24, 2022 by wjag

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

10 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

Tua's not trash at all, he's improved steadily and the Dolphins have something like a 13-7 record when in games he's started.

 

Not saying he's on a JA17 trajectory but it's foolish for Bills and other teams fans to write guys like him and Mac Jones off.

 

Also remember with a guy like Hill all it takes is a timely 5 yard pass that can turn into an 80 yard TD and our defense has always been exposed by those type of plays under McD/Frazier and last time I checked we still have Edmunds on this roster which isn't a good thing in regards to this.

Who do they have at LB lol no chance they can consistently hang with josh Allen in a shootout even if tua improves…we are just a bad matchup for them the way things stand currently.  They needed a defensive overhaul not another wr

[Greg S]

Tua trying to complete a pass to Hill.

 

 

 

[FilthyBeast]

40 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Who do they have at LB lol no chance they can consistently hang with josh Allen in a shootout even if tua improves…we are just a bad matchup for them the way things stand currently.  They needed a defensive overhaul not another wr

 

At some point the Dolphins will beat us again and sweep us in a season for that matter.

 

Not saying it's going to be season but they seem to follow the Bills old formula against the Pats in all the years we were dominated by them in that they get blown out in one game and play very close with chances to win in the other.

 

As of right now though they clearly look like the #2 team in the division on paper anyway.

[NewEra]

Almost 50 pages! Wow.  Lots of ptsd?  I’m afraid to look at this thread 

[Putin]

3 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

All depends on what happens with Tua, he seemed to play well last year down the stretch but certainly not quite elite. If he takes another step this year obviously the Dolphins are a threat not only to win the division, but compete for a SB.

 

My biggest concern is what this new look fish offense is going to look like under McDaniel. If he's truly some sort of 'savant' he'll find a way to manufacture a potent dink and dunk, YAC type of offense that utilizes Waddle and Hill to their maximum potential. Because IMO both Waddle/Hill better than Samuel who was a major weapon for the 49er's doing this type of stuff.

 

Either way CB is still a glaring hole on the Bills roster right now and needs to be addressed other than just draft picks. Not thrilled with the idea of Edmunds covering these type of WR's either.

So for a team who wasn’t in the conversation even for a wild card are now SB contender by adding a great WR ? 
 

[FilthyBeast]

4 minutes ago, Putin said:

So for a team who wasn’t in the conversation even for a wild card are now SB contender by adding a great WR ? 
 

 

They missed the playoff by one game the last two season, the team that made the SB in the AFC had one more win than the Dolphins which shows the margin of error in this league.

 

And it's not just adding Hill, they added one of the best LT in the NFL and the assumption is that Tua will improve behind an offensive minded HC.

 

Lot's of things need to fall into place but it's not impossible for the Dolphins to be in the SB mix and speaking of the Bengals how many 'experts' had them in the SB last year? Probably zero, in fact they were almost a consensus favorite to be last place in their division and be picking in the top 5 again.

[Royale with Cheese]

2 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said:

I mean you said “here” like you lived there so I was curious as I know you lived in Atlanta which is nowhere near where “here” would have been. 
 

And get a pedicure my god.

 

Did I tell you that I'm getting goats?

[Awwufelloff]

5 draft picks and 120 million is a lot to give up. The cost control aspect of draft picks in a relatively stagnant salary cap was huge. 

[TBBills]

53 minutes ago, Putin said:

So for a team who wasn’t in the conversation even for a wild card are now SB contender by adding a great WR ? 
 

He is very afraid of the Dolphins, he was the one saying they were going to win the AFC East. Ita comical at this point,  every time he is wrong but keeps making the same mistake.

Edited March 24, 2022 by TBBills

[Brand J]

Saw that Chiefs fans wanted Waddle and 2 first round picks just to get the conversation started. Delusional.

[The Wiz]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

Almost 50 pages! Wow.  Lots of ptsd?  I’m afraid to look at this thread 

A mixed bag really.

 

A good amount of: "who cares because Tua is throwing him the ball", "This helps the chiefs get his contract off the books and replace him with a 1st rd receiver" and everything in between.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2022/03/dolphins-arent-losing-to-bills-this-year-following-tyreek-hill-trade-says-former-nfl-wr.html

 

 

Mecole Hardman weighs in on the move:

 

 

[beebe]

19 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

How does trading him at this point in the offseason help their defense? The big defensive free agents are off the market. The most optimistic outlook you can have about this trade is that they'll take a temporary step back this year and use the acquired assets to rebuild the team for the future. There us no way you can spin this trade as helping the Chiefs in 2022. They didn't even get any particularly valuable picks out of it. When I first heard about the trade I assumed they would get a top 16 pick and take Jameson Williams or Chris Olave, and that would be something you could put a positive spin on. Instead they got some picks that can be used to build the depth of the team, in exchange for a game changing elite talent. Give me the game changing elite talent over the depth every time.

 

Before the trade, the Chiefs couldn't keep Mathieu. Now they can if they desire. The trade now allows them to add someone like CB Gilmore if they desire. It allows them to trade for a defensive player now that they've cleared space (Veach has made a ton of trades in his time, including last year for Melvin Ingram and LT Orlando Brown, on top of the Tyreek trade, on top of countless others.) There will still be post June 1 cuts. And most obviously, they have eight picks in the first four rounds, and he will likely package a few of them to move up to select a defensive player or two who can make an instant impact. Or a stud WR in mid 1st round. So yes, this can for sure help the team in 2022 on the whole, even while acknowledging that Tyreek was special beyond words. 

[FireChans]

11 minutes ago, beebe said:

 

Before the trade, the Chiefs couldn't keep Mathieu. Now they can if they desire. The trade now allows them to add someone like CB Gilmore if they desire. It allows them to trade for a defensive player now that they've cleared space (Veach has made a ton of trades in his time, including last year for Melvin Ingram and LT Orlando Brown, on top of the Tyreek trade, on top of countless others.) There will still be post June 1 cuts. And most obviously, they have eight picks in the first four rounds, and he will likely package a few of them to move up to select a defensive player or two who can make an instant impact. Or a stud WR in mid 1st round. So yes, this can for sure help the team in 2022 on the whole, even while acknowledging that Tyreek was special beyond words. 

LMAO this is hilarious.

 

The Chiefs can now add a player (like MVS, nice). Excellent use of $10M.

 

They can also trade for a defensive player. Which defensive player? Idk. Someone. Maybe.

 

They can also draft players. They can package those picks, and get instant impact players/stud WR's. The classic move. Everyone knows working a little package action in the third round ALWAYS means instant impact.

 

Ya'll should hear yourselves. The Chiefs are like the old Pats to you.

[HappyDays]

20 minutes ago, beebe said:

 

Before the trade, the Chiefs couldn't keep Mathieu. Now they can if they desire. The trade now allows them to add someone like CB Gilmore if they desire. It allows them to trade for a defensive player now that they've cleared space (Veach has made a ton of trades in his time, including last year for Melvin Ingram and LT Orlando Brown, on top of the Tyreek trade, on top of countless others.) There will still be post June 1 cuts. And most obviously, they have eight picks in the first four rounds, and he will likely package a few of them to move up to select a defensive player or two who can make an instant impact. Or a stud WR in mid 1st round. So yes, this can for sure help the team in 2022 on the whole, even while acknowledging that Tyreek was special beyond words. 

 

You're a Chiefs fan, right? So at any point before the Tyreek Hill trade was announced, did you ever think even once that trading Tyreek Hill would be a good move to improve the team in 2022? If not then we can establish that you are trying to rationalize the trade after it already happened because you're a fan. If Diggs is traded this offseason I won't be happy about it. I'm not going to force myself to think otherwise if it does happen. Elite players at premium positions are always worth more to a team in its Super Bowl window than the assets received in exchange. No combination of solid but not elite defensive players will make up for the loss of Tyreek Hill.

 

Edited March 25, 2022 by HappyDays

[Big Blitz]

57 minutes ago, beebe said:

 

Before the trade, the Chiefs couldn't keep Mathieu. Now they can if they desire. The trade now allows them to add someone like CB Gilmore if they desire. It allows them to trade for a defensive player now that they've cleared space (Veach has made a ton of trades in his time, including last year for Melvin Ingram and LT Orlando Brown, on top of the Tyreek trade, on top of countless others.) There will still be post June 1 cuts. And most obviously, they have eight picks in the first four rounds, and he will likely package a few of them to move up to select a defensive player or two who can make an instant impact. Or a stud WR in mid 1st round. So yes, this can for sure help the team in 2022 on the whole, even while acknowledging that Tyreek was special beyond words. 

 

 

The trade allows them to do a bunch of things - winning the Super Bowl in 2022 isn't one of them.  Mahomes is why they will be relevant and a threat every year.  But Hill was at the center of how they attacked you.

 

That said - I love their oline.  CEH could have a breakout year.  I think they're going to reinvent themselves and you have to trust Reid knows what he's doing.  

 

But Kelce is going to get double coverage and all kinds of attention.  And with how brutal that division will be and how tough the AFC is they just won't seamlessly transition from Tyreek Hill and still be on top of the conference.  

[YoloinOhio]

 

[H2o]

[TBBills]

Let's see how much "YAC" Hill gets when he is slowing down to catch the ball or trying to grab the pass from behind. 

 

Mahomes put Hill in position to use his speed to separate and stay like that with accurate passing to keep Hill in stride as he ran his route.

Edited March 25, 2022 by TBBills

[Buffalo Barbarian]

On 3/23/2022 at 2:40 PM, JohnBonhamRocks said:

Eh, is it all that different from us trading for Diggs? They’ve committed to their rookie QB and are putting him in a position where he can have no excuses.
 

For us, Allen blossomed. For them, we’ll see.

 

But if they learn they need to part w/ Tua they’ll still have a solid enough offensive core to be attractive to a top QB should another become available. 

 

Dude seriously !?!? Dont even compare tua to Allen

 

 

[HOUSE]

 

It only took a few hours for the overreactions to the Tyreek Hill trade to roll in.

On Wednesday, the Miami Dolphins acquired the wide receiver from the Kansas City Chiefs in exchange for five draft picks. With the addition of Hill, the Dolphins have no shortage of playmakers. In addition to Hill, Miami has Jaylen Waddle, Mike Gesicki, Raheem Mostert, Cedrick Wilson, Chase Edmonds and DeVante Parker.

 

 

https://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/2022/03/dolphins-arent-losing-to-bills-this-year-following-tyreek-hill-trade-says-former-nfl-wr.html

[Greg S]

LOL. What's next are the Jets going to sweep the Bills as well?

[HOUSE]

[ALLEN1QB]

Look another washed up WR lost his mind.  Next thing we will see him and Antonio Brown streaking down Main Street

[JohnBonhamRocks]

5 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Dude seriously !?!? Dont even compare tua to Allen

 

 

Remember the part you quoted from me where I said “For them, we’ll see”?

 

I didn’t think so. 
 

I think it is possible Tua makes a step forward w/ a great WR1-2 and inventive playcaller to match his skill set. 

[Nuncha]

The blindside block attempt Ohchostinko made on Ray Lewis has had permanent adverse cognitive effects.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 25, 2022 by Azucho98

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

10 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

The signing portends a descent into the abyss.  Or, as Mr. Lahey referred to it, the s***abyss.

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I nominate '85' as the next talking head on a pregame show. 🤨