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Whaley worked for the Steelers for 10 years rising to be a pro personnel coordinator before accepting the Buffalo Bills job as Assistant general manager.

He is familiar with organization which is advantage to him. 

 

He unfortunately is a poor public speaker and should (already should have) lessons to help him.

He would be better as an assistant rather than "face" of franchise.

If he is smart he will not rule out being part of staff if he does not get GM role.

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I still think Whaley could be a good personnel guy in the NFL. He has an eye for talent. But from what I’ve seen of him I don’t think he has the right skill set to be a GM. I know he has to deal with all sorts of meddling from Ralph Wilson lifers so it wasn’t all on him but seeing how he operated vs. Beane… yeah. No contest.

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8 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

 

Whaley worked for the Steelers for 10 years rising to be a pro personnel coordinator before accepting the Buffalo Bills job as Assistant general manager.

He is familiar with organization which is advantage to him. 

 

He unfortunately is a poor public speaker and should (already should have) lessons to help him.

He would be better as an assistant rather than "face" of franchise.

If he is smart he will not rule out being part of staff if he does not get GM role.

Saw the video the Bills put out when they hired McDermott when he arrived at the facility and was shown around. McDermott was in a suit, Whaley was in sweats.

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12 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

I didn't mind some of the moves he made, but he wasn't as consistent or methodical as Beane. Didn't care for his personality at times, wither. Still seems like a good fit for Pittsburgh.

 

That Hughes trade was righteous.


Whaley was better than he gets credit for here.  His biggest down fall was being forced to try and find a franchise QB in a horrific draft for QBs.  And never getting that right QB in place is a death nail in most GMs jobs.  
 

I think he could do well in Pitt.  Unfortunately for him, it’s another weak QB class to be hunting for a QB.  But at least they don’t have to take one this year if they wanna see what Mitch can do first.

 

So if Whaley gets the gig, if I was him I would avoid this years draft to take a QB early and target next year if Mitch doesn’t take hold the job this season.  

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Said when he was fired from here that one day he will be a GM again. Still believe that today

 

Guy could assemble/identify talented players, the other aspects of the GM job he struggled. Contracts/speaking/culture

 

Probably a very good assistant GM or needs to go where culture and process have been clearly established in my opinion 

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Not a popular opinion here, but I liked Whaley. Ialways felt that he was in a terrible position here. Meddling owner, had Nix as a weird co-GM/boss/mentor hybrid. Russ Brandon 'nuff said. Then he had Rex shoved down his throat.

 

I'm not saying he would've been great. But he certainly wasn't given a real shot.

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You all remember Whaley a lot different than I do.  His signings were bad and his drafts were bad.  He had no authority when he spoke.  What would have happened if Whaley had the same thing happen to him the Washington did to Beane?  Washington ain't doing that junk anymore.

1 minute ago, somnus00 said:

Not a popular opinion here, but I liked Whaley. Ialways felt that he was in a terrible position here. Meddling owner, had Nix as a weird co-GM/boss/mentor hybrid. Russ Brandon 'nuff said. Then he had Rex shoved down his throat.

 

I'm not saying he would've been great. But he certainly wasn't given a real shot.

This is quite the opposite of what he had.  Wilson wasn't even involved when Whaley was here in charge

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16 minutes ago, Billzgobowlin said:

What would have happened if Whaley had the same thing happen to him the Washington did to Beane?  Washington ain't doing that junk anymore.

This is a weird comparison. I think WFT would do it again in a heartbeat, regardless of how Beane reacted. It's just how they're run.

 

Hands down, Beane is a much better leader. I agree with the previous poster, Whaley was a great talent evaluator, but struggled with every other aspect of GMing.

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Whaley did a great job. Without him, we wouldn't have a GM the quality of Beane. I'd be asking him how he managed it too.

 

1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

My buddy is a Steelers fan and is high on him. I guess Whaley has a talk radio

show in Pittsburgh and it is really popular.

 

We should start a pool on how long that lasts if he becomes GM.

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28 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

Whaley could identify talent, he didn’t know how to build a cohesive roster. If he has that figured out he could be a serious candidate 

This.  He was really good at getting valuable free agents.

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I was a big Whaley believer.  But ultimately, you really can't do anything w/out a true franchise QB.

 

I'm really grateful for this time right now. Allen makes everything possible.  We had to wait a long time between Kelly & Allen, so I'm going to appreciate every second while JA is a Bill.

 

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34 minutes ago, Tenhigh said:

This.  He was really good at getting valuable free agents.

 

18 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:

Doug Whaley is a Pro Personnel guy only.  Anything more wide-ranging is beyond his skillset, as he proved in Buffalo.  Dude was a witch at procuring good-quality low-cost free agents, but a disaster in the draft.

 

Whaley still eating lunch for free here at TBD off of Hughes, Incognito and Lorax....

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His roster was the one McD got to the playoffs with, let’s not act like he didn’t put together a good roster.  He missed on a WB which is debated if he had a call on.   His track record was not nearly what people make it out to be.  I think he had a better D built than we have now if we are being honest.

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2 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

I didn't mind some of the moves he made, but he wasn't as consistent or methodical as Beane. Didn't care for his personality at times, wither. Still seems like a good fit for Pittsburgh.

 

That Hughes trade was righteous.

It’s not that he wasn’t methodical…he just had no idea how to build a team.  Some of his picks were ok, but his strength was mostly pro personnel.  
 

I don’t think you want Whaley as GM

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2 hours ago, Warcodered said:

Saw the video the Bills put out when they hired McDermott when he arrived at the facility and was shown around. McDermott was in a suit, Whaley was in sweats.

You've never seen Brandon Beane in sweats? Of all the things you could single out Whaley for, that's what you pick? Generally speaking, he was an extremely sharp dresser during his time here.

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44 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:

Doug Whaley is a Pro Personnel guy only.  Anything more wide-ranging is beyond his skillset, as he proved in Buffalo.  Dude was a witch at procuring good-quality low-cost free agents, but a disaster in the draft.

I just said the same thing… he’s not a GM though he could be a good pro personnel guy.  OBD was extremely disorganized under his watch

6 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

His roster was the one McD got to the playoffs with, let’s not act like he didn’t put together a good roster.  He missed on a WB which is debated if he had a call on.   His track record was not nearly what people make it out to be.  I think he had a better D built than we have now if we are being honest.

He was also very disorganized and had no clue how to build a roster.  He is not suited to be GM

1 hour ago, Tenhigh said:

This.  He was really good at getting valuable free agents.

Not really..:he was good at signing undervalued Free Agents

1 hour ago, Captain Hindsight said:

Whaley could identify talent, he didn’t know how to build a cohesive roster. If he has that figured out he could be a serious candidate 

Something tells me he doesn’t have that figured out 

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