ColoradoBills Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Richie Incognito was 34 years old when he left Buffalo. Thought I'd just throw that into the mix. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Totally expecting a 1st 3 round understudy in the draft. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Summary Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Mat68 said: One of the better gaurds in football. Bring him in and draft a few guys day 2 and day 3. I like the "sign one and draft one" concept as well. Got to have the interior ready to go at the opener and not have to rely on rookies. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Richie Incognito was 34 years old when he left Buffalo. Thought I'd just throw that into the mix. And he’ll be 39 when he returns 😉 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 42 minutes ago, CNY315 said: Heh. "Rodgers House of Pancakes" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloaggie Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 13 minutes ago, Shake_My_Head said: That lines up with Tannyhill (immobile) playing QB rather than Mariota (mobile) before him. Just a thought. I'd say Josh is in that later category, not the former. Tannehill is immobile? Not as mobile as Josh, Lamar or Kyler. Tannehill did rush for 270 yards and 7 TDs. If he's indecisive, that'd explain being sacked as much as anyone except Burrow. Blame it on the line, receivers or the QB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babulator Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 I'm looking forward to seeing Roger run some people over this year. There will be highlights! Go Bills! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 2 hours ago, MiltonWaddams said: Solid athlete in his younger years. Probably past his prime, but if beach chairs likes him, then I can get behind it. It's only a 1 year deal. He probably is close to the end of the road, but for 1 year, he represents a solid improvement to our line, which needs help anywhere it can get it. 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Areola Grande Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, buffblue said: I appreciate your snark. If we are to remain a pass centric team, would it not make sense to build your line around blockers who excel in that area instead of potentially weakening what you do best? Especially when you have a highly paid, superstar quarterback? Saffold also does not even seem like a fit for the zone scheme that Kromer runs. And thanks for the amazing revelation that an Oline coach alone does not dictate philosophy. I'm going to venture to guess that one of the reasons the Saints threw the ball so much was because they had absolutely atrocious defenses, and their head coach was, you know, Sean Payton? One of the most progressive, innovative play callers in NFL history. On the other hand, McDermott, while having made strides in becoming less conservative, is still a defensive coach by trade. One could easily argue that if the ball hadn't been taken out of Allen's hands the first 2 possessions of the 2nd half against KC, we might be in a very different place now I don't think it's crazy at all to question if our commitment to the run is going to increase going into next season, especially given the widely reported rift between Daboll and McDermott. No snark intended, if that's how it came off. But honestly, our OL wasn't anything to write home about prior to these changes. It was beyond atrocious to start the year, and yeah, Bates added some stability but it was anywhere in the spectrum between a pile of 💩 -->🤮 -->🗑️-->😬-->😐--> "just 👌." "pass blockers vs. run blockers..." To quote Swedish environmental activist Greta Thunberg, "Blah blah blah!!" We weren't a good run blocking OR a pass blocking team!! The 'impressive' sack/qb hit numbers etc. are really just a testament to how much of a beast Allen can be. But I'm not gonna insult you because you're obviously a knowledgeable and I know I'm not saying anything you don't know. But let's not pretend like we are blowing up some great unit and it should've remained as is. I'm not as bullish about Spencer Brown as most are, but I remain excited about the possibilities of what he can do w/ Kromer now than I was before. It's also not as if Kromer doesn't know a sh**ton about pass blocking, either. Bobby Johnson, imo, seemed like a MAJOR weak link and while, obviously, I was not in the building and haven't ANY details or evidence about the specific goings-on within, it's just mind-boggling what went on with Spain and Teller. He's had botched job after botched job since he joined in 2019. First Wyatt, then the perplexing situation leading to trading Spain for a bag of coupons after benching him for... erm... Brian Winters (yeah... I don't like to think about it either). Idk if Cody Ford might possibly be significantly better than how he's played, but Johnson has had a big hand in it and it wouldn't surprise me at all this year (or if/when he moves on from Buffalo since his reputation is in the dumpster right now) it turns out he was decent or even pretty good and he was just completely broken by how things were run during recent times here. At the very least, I'm very surprised there's all this premature apprehension and concern that we're just gonna turn JA into a RB-belly feeder and it's going to be about "time of possession" and "slowing the game down," and [insert w/e other similar cliché here]. We're putting the cart miles ahead of the horse and starting a hilariously premature worry campaign that this team is gonna somehow put governor on the offense and Josh Allen entering his prime... before they have even had a single practice!, let alone a single game rep. The way I see it is that the OL was one of the only parts of this team that was anywhere from a real liability, to subpar, mediocre, and serviceable last season. If anything, the changes should excite people. I'd be way more frustrated if we just kept almost everything the same like we did last year. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 A lot of this really depends on cost for me. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Go after Corbett or draft an IOL in the 1st 3-rounds? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Areola Grande said: No snark intended, if that's how it came off. But honestly, our OL wasn't anything to write home about prior to these changes. It was beyond atrocious to start the year, and yeah, Bates added some stability but it was anywhere in the spectrum between a pile of 💩 -->🤮 -->🗑️-->😬-->😐--> "just 👌." "pass blockers vs. run blockers..." To quote Swedish environmental activist Greta Thunberg, "Blah blah blah!!" We weren't a good run blocking OR a pass blocking team!! The 'impressive' sack/qb hit numbers etc. are really just a testament to how much of a beast Allen can be. But I'm not gonna insult you because you're obviously a knowledgeable and I know I'm not saying anything you don't know. But let's not pretend like we are blowing up some great unit and it should've remained as is. I'm not as bullish about Spencer Brown as most are, but I remain excited about the possibilities of what he can do w/ Kromer now than I was before. It's also not as if Kromer doesn't know a sh**ton about pass blocking, either. Bobby Johnson, imo, seemed like a MAJOR weak link and while, obviously, I was not in the building and haven't ANY details or evidence about the specific goings-on within, it's just mind-boggling what went on with Spain and Teller. He's had botched job after botched job since he joined in 2019. First Wyatt, then the perplexing situation leading to trading Spain for a bag of coupons after benching him for... erm... Brian Winters (yeah... I don't like to think about it either). Idk if Cody Ford might possibly be significantly better than how he's played, but Johnson has had a big hand in it and it wouldn't surprise me at all this year (or if/when he moves on from Buffalo since his reputation is in the dumpster right now) it turns out he was decent or even pretty good and he was just completely broken by how things were run during recent times here. At the very least, I'm very surprised there's all this premature apprehension and concern that we're just gonna turn JA into a RB-belly feeder and it's going to be about "time of possession" and "slowing the game down," and [insert w/e other similar cliché here]. We're putting the cart miles ahead of the horse and starting a hilariously premature worry campaign that this team is gonna somehow put governor on the offense and Josh Allen entering his prime... before they have even had a single practice!, let alone a single game rep. The way I see it is that the OL was one of the only parts of this team that was anywhere from a real liability, to subpar, mediocre, and serviceable last season. If anything, the changes should excite people. I'd be way more frustrated if we just kept almost everything the same like we did last year. Fair enough, and you raise some good points. It's true that my and others initial reasons for skepticism may turn out to be unfounded. One other reason that I feel we may become more conservative this year is because we now have a first time play caller. I have a bad feeling that McD is going to exert more influence over Dorsey to remain "balanced". I agree with Mango's comment that cost plays a huge part in this deal. Maybe with how glowingly Saffold spoke of the Bills we were able to get him on the cheap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Special K said: I guess they didn’t fire up the Ford Taurus to pick him up at the airport due to the Taurus’ bad gas mileage!!😆 Only thing that makes sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 25 minutes ago, Mango said: A lot of this really depends on cost for me. The people who count are good with the cost, so I’m not sweating it, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Im loving our line right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Healthy, average pass protector, near elite run blocker. I'm guessing they slot him at RG and move Williams to LG where he played in his last season with Carolina. I want Donte Jackson too! They have several decent CB's and Gilmore needs to get paid. D Jackson, T White an T Johnson. Add an elite sack artist at RE and this D looks like ir could be elite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, GreggTX said: Healthy, average pass protector, near elite run blocker. I'm guessing they slot him at RG and move Williams to LG where he played in his last season with Carolina. I want Donte Jackson too! They have several decent CB's and Gilmore needs to get paid. D Jackson, T White an T Johnson. Add an elite sack artist at RE and this D looks like ir could be elite. about that... 2 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Warcodered said: about that... Yeah....flip that around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 hour ago, buffaloaggie said: Tannehill is immobile? Not as mobile as Josh, Lamar or Kyler. Tannehill did rush for 270 yards and 7 TDs. If he's indecisive, that'd explain being sacked as much as anyone except Burrow. Blame it on the line, receivers or the QB? He was a WR in college before they switched him to QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ColoradoBills Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Warcodered said: So he probably orders "cups". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 I’m okay with it. Hopefully on a cheap one year deal. Remember him spending a lot of time on the ground last year. Not sure if he had a shoulder injury or not which may explain that a bit. Imagine he retires after this year. Not overly excited here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 4 hours ago, Mango said: Admittedly I am not an OL wonk like some of the others around here, but I get the impression he isn’t the same guy anymore. Hoping this isn’t big money. Anybody smarter than me have any insights? He could be well off his best years and still be a big upgrade over the Bills current guards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Where's the cap number? Get me the numbaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Does he have anything left in the tank? Could he be a one or two year guy that brings the Lombardi Trophy to Bflo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 4 hours ago, streetkings01 said: Rams made the super bowl with a 56 year old LT……34 is the new 29 in the NFL. And Brady is coming back and he's like 60. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Areola Grande Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: Where's the cap number? Get me the numbaz Could be updated since I checked, but it looks like, per spotrac we had just under ~$6 mil in space post-cut of Williams, post-signing of Bates and McKenzie, but PRE-Saffold. I don't think anybody has the deetz on that contract. There's a lot of work that can be done and that number includes Beasley's cap hit, which obviously should come off at some point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaBillsJunkie Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 3 hours ago, Putin said: Is he an upgrade that’s my only question over Williams and Bates for sure. Paving the road for Henry and a grinder All-Pro in LA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 I’m alright with this signing, but lets hope it goes better than Beane’s other old guy signings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloaggie Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 hour ago, GreggTX said: He was a WR in college before they switched him to QB. Yup, I went to A&M. He's a great athlete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 if he's healthy I like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 5 hours ago, Mikie's Bills said: Safe to say we'll be running the ball more this season ….and hopefully better….with a running back far more often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bookie Man Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 8 hours ago, nucci said: yes, but offense started to play better when we started running the ball more effectively Yes, it all began 2nd half vs Tampa Bay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 4 hours ago, BillsMafi$ said: Who is Michael Tant? It looks like a Tenn fan who is upset. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo ill Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, BruceVilanch said: Who is Michael Tant? It looks like a Tenn fan who is upset. Some random ***** nobody who uses twitter for the attention his parents never gave him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 I’m sort of meh on this signing, but an underrated aspect of the move is that Saffold will be a Kromer advocate in the locker room. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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