NewEra Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, Process said: The Bills are a passing team We don’t know what the bills are yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Hmmm. Hopefully cheaper than Williams. Probably an upgrade in run blocking and at best a wash and maybe a bit worse in pass blocking. Doesn't count against the comp pick total which is nice. I think they may yet still sign another OG then draft an OT that can play OG in a pinch. Don't see Doyle as a long term starter and they will need to start planning for Dawkins replacement soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, NewEra said: I’m just going by Beanes history with Free agents. Always seems to pay more than I’d like. All Free Agents cost more than we'd like. For every team. 1 minute ago, Process said: The Bills are a passing team Maybe because they didnt have any other choice? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: He is unequivocally an upgrade over both of the players we released. I don't understand anyone complaining about a 1 yr deal well, did we kick the tires first and then sign him to a team friendly deal?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Process said: The Bills are a passing team Yeah I know they also Run though. So same type of Pass Blocker (slight upgrade to Williams) and a massive upgrade to run blocking. And Does not hurt the compensatory formula. Win win Win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Yea I said I was okay with him as a dust settles type guy once the price came down if he didn't find an immediate taker. Jumping on his early is not what I'd have done. He was released 3-4 days ago. So I think the dust did settle in regards to him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarrellsFinest Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Old guard..excuse me if im not excited. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: OK I will say this....Saffold as Not That Guy any more could still be way better than Williams at RG I’ll say this. He’s a Pro Bowler. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, NewEra said: I don’t think he’d be next to brown….hasnt he always played LG since moving inside? Played RG 2 years in StL. Much more experience on the L and I think maybe a bit better there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Ethan in Portland said: Hmmm. Hopefully cheaper than Williams. Probably an upgrade in run blocking and at best a wash and maybe a bit worse in pass blocking. Doesn't count against the comp pick total which is nice. I think they may yet still sign another OG then draft an OT that can play OG in a pinch. Don't see Doyle as a long term starter and they will need to start planning for Dawkins replacement soon. If you look at our combine meetings, the majority went to pure C/Gs. We will not draft an OT who can maybe play OG. We will draft a true OG and let them shine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Process said: The Bills are a passing team Every passing team is better when play action is an actual threat. Every QB is better when they can hand off a few more times a game and decrease the chance of getting hit in the pocket. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Process said: The Bills are a passing team yes, but offense started to play better when we started running the ball more effectively 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: All Free Agents cost more than we'd like. For every team. Maybe because they didnt have any other choice? When you have Josh Allen and are paying him 45 mil a year, isn't that what you would want them to be anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 22 minutes ago, Process said: Woah! Will wait for the numbers before judging the signing. He will be 34yo next season. Not sure an aging guard is the best guy to give big money too.... How much did he get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 My guess is the cap hit will be around $5 million. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob71 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 offensive line signing borrrrrrrrrrrrring give me a high priced big name diva WR signing or i ain't hittin refresh anymore 😁 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Not at the table Karlos said: He was released 3-4 days ago. So I think the dust did settle in regards to him. Won’t count vs comp picks iirc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 No numbers yet tell me the deal favors the Bills more than Saffold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, Chandler#81 said: I’ll say this. He’s a Pro Bowler. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Not at the table Karlos said: He was released 3-4 days ago. So I think the dust did settle in regards to him. Depends what the money looks like. I doubt it has settled to the point where I'd be in favour of this move. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 The numbers must be agreeable to those that count, so I’m not sweating it. Go Bills!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, buffblue said: When you have Josh Allen and are paying him 45 mil a year, isn't that what you would want them to be anyway? We'll always be a passing team, but we all saw it last year. You have to at least threaten to run the ball. A more balanced attack only helps the passing game and takes the heat and pressure off Josh. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, HappyDays said: No numbers yet tell me the deal favors the Bills more than Saffold. Hope you're right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: If you look at our combine meetings, the majority went to pure C/Gs. We will not draft an OT who can maybe play OG. We will draft a true OG and let them shine. They just extended Morse. A OT/OG makes more sense than a C/G. Last year was the time to add a C/G and move on from Morse this year. Now the calculus is opposite as Dawkins will be a candidate for a cap casualty soon and Brown is still a work in progress. Cutting Williams and extending Morse shifted the balance of need to OT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 And unlike the legal Tampering signings this one is already official Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: I’ll say this. He’s a Pro Bowler. To be fair Josh wasn't this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: My guess is the cap hit will be around $5 million. This year and next year maybe. Maybe a void year, 10M for 1 year but split between 2. You think it’s a 1 year 5m deal?? We couldn’t be that fortunate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Solid veteran that fills a need. Good signing. Lets keep it going.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 I'm not disputing the notion that he is declining, BUT.....he did make his first Pro Bowl ever last season. I know, I know...Pro Bowl voting is a joke. Anyway....I'd say this makes it quite likely that the Bills draft a guard no earlier than round 3, with an eye on developing him for a year and having him take over for Saffold next season. I didn't necessarily view guard as a likely 1st or 2nd round pick anyway, but it was at least a reasonable possibility. I don't think it is any more. You can lecture me all you want about how Beane will take BPA no matter what, but based on how this regime seems to value (or NOT value) interior linemen in the draft, I predict it'll be a mid-round selection, nothing earlier. CB, WR, DT still the round 1 and 2 favorites, IMO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, nucci said: yes, but offense started to play better when we started running the ball more effectively It's better to be balanced on offense. I do hope they run the ball more even though Allen can throw it all over the field. Kelly threw it all over the field as well but the Bills could still run the ball down other teams throats with Thurman. Better run game will make Allen much more dangerous. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 This right here. This is your LG next to Dawkins. RG still in question 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Every passing team is better when play action is an actual threat. Every QB is better when they can hand off a few more times a game and decrease the chance of getting hit in the pocket. Or let me re-frame that a bit. Every QB is better and has better protection/is less likely to be hit in the pocket, when the defense has legitimate doubt as to whether it's run or pass and can not just vacate their run D to go after the passer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Ethan in Portland said: They just extended Morse. A OT/OG makes more sense than a C/G. Last year was the time to add a C/G and move on from Morse this year. Now the calculus is opposite as Dawkins will be a candidate for a cap casualty soon and Brown is still a work in progress. Cutting Williams and extending Morse shifted the balance of need to OT. LOL wut? No. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, MAJBobby said: This right here. This is your LG next to Dawkins. RG still in question Can Bates play RG? He's been advertised as able to play any spot on OL, though his T-rex arms don't favor him at OT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Two year Deal with a Void Year Per Saffold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, NewEra said: I’m just going by Beanes history with Free agents. Always seems to pay more than I’d like. Unfortunately it’s not what you like… it’s what the market dictates… 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: We'll always be a passing team, but we all saw it last year. You have to at least threaten to run the ball. A more balanced attack only helps the passing game and takes the heat and pressure off Josh. Last year Allen had one of the highest passer ratings off play action, threw the most play action passes, and threw for the most yards off play action passes. That was with an almost non-existent running game for most of the year. Imagine what he would do wit a more consistent running game. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Can Bates play RG? He's been advertised as able to play any spot on OL, though his T-rex arms don't favor him at OT Yeah he can play RG. I think that would be the initial spot for him once he is officially back in the Mix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Have to sit down and watch a few of his games from last year. Pretty likely that Kromer had input & I trust Kromer. Titans may have offered him a restructure at $5 mill & he balked, so we may come in under 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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